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[Mike Monett]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

It\'s a shame we lost so much revenue not selling poison gas to
Germany.

what an atrocious thing to say.

First of all, use of poison gas was outlawed by the Hague Conventions of 1899
and 1907, and the Geneva Protocol in 1925.

Second, you want to send poison gas to Germany to use on US Troops?

I\'m sure most of your customers would be interested to hear you say that.

 

[server]

Mike Monett <spamme@not.com> wrote in
news:XnsAE51D7F619222idtokenpost@144.76.35.252:

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

It\'s a shame we lost so much revenue not selling poison gas to
Germany.

what an atrocious thing to say.

First of all, use of poison gas was outlawed by the Hague
Conventions of 1899 and 1907, and the Geneva Protocol in 1925.

Second, you want to send poison gas to Germany to use on US
Troops?

I\'m sure most of your customers would be interested to hear you
say that.

Used to be something like that would cause loss of all current and
future contracts, with a fair immediacy, and oh looky no trial needed.

We should send Larkin over to assassinate Putin.

 

[Rick C]

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 9:13:57 PM UTC-5, Mike Monett wrote:

jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

It\'s a shame we lost so much revenue not selling poison gas to
Germany.
what an atrocious thing to say.

First of all, use of poison gas was outlawed by the Hague Conventions of 1899
and 1907, and the Geneva Protocol in 1925.

Second, you want to send poison gas to Germany to use on US Troops?

I\'m sure most of your customers would be interested to hear you say that.

You need to learn how to read people as well as what they write. Did you really think he was suggesting the US should have sold poison gas to Germany?

--

Rick C.

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[Martin Brown]

On 05/03/2022 14:51, DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:

Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in news:dee6c6b5-
130f-418c-a219-77133af49a69n@googlegroups.com:

snip

Actually I took your post as one from John Dope, because what you said
does not make sene in the current circumstance.

Same thing with the claims you made about the rare earth metals.
Some of those are ONLY in China, and any other place in the world has
to little of it to make any extraction processes too costly and produce
too little. But that is not the case with Neon.

Which rare earth element is only found in China then?

My sources say that even the rarest REE is widespread in crustal rocks.

Europium is depleted in some highly altered rocks which makes rare earth
signatures a good indicator of the provenance of wine, meteorites or
precious metals.

https://www2.bgs.ac.uk/mineralsuk/download/mineralProfiles/rare_earth_elements_profile.pdf

The Europium anomaly - geologists get quite excited about it for reasons
that escape me completely even though I wrote some of the software.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europium_anomaly#/media/File:A_graph_of_basalt_REE_abundance.png

Otherwise the REE chemistry is incredibly similar which makes them very
difficult to separate out. Some were only properly isolated in pure form
after the nuclear industry figured out ion exchange separation.

Like Platinum, mainly in South Africa, the few other places it is
mined have much lower yields and make it prohibitively expensive.
So even though it can be found even here in North America, there is
only one \"Platinum mine\" in the US.

US and Scandinavia have deposits of mineable REE minerals (which are
rare) the problem with all the lanthanide series is that they are quite
common in the environment but seldom concentrated into mineable ore.

China used their economies of scale to price everyone else out of the
market. Something that myopic capitalism was quite happy to permit.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown

 

[David Brown]

On 05/03/2022 19:14, whit3rd wrote:

On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-8, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

...about the rare earth metals.
Some of those are ONLY in China, and any other place in the world has
to little of it to make any extraction processes too costly and produce
too little.

It\'s not hard to find rare earth minerals, they\'re well spread. What IS hard,
is separating them, which takes lots of chemical wizardry. So, while
one can get a supply of mischmetal (like for the \'flint\' elements of
disposable lighters) anywhere, a pure neodymium supply for making
magnets is going to involve a shipment from China.

Yes. It\'s not that they are rare in the earth\'s surface rocks - it is
that they are rare within any given rock. There\'s no good rich ores for
them, they are just found as traces in many other ores.

 

[server]

Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote in news:t01vub$1e76$1
@gioia.aioe.org:

Which rare earth element is only found in China then?

Only mined in China. We got it going nice and cheap, and no it will
cost us whether we have to get it from them marked up or create the
facilities to produce it here.

 

[server]

Martin Brown <\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote in
news:t01vub$1e76$1@gioia.aioe.org:

My sources say that even the rarest REE is widespread in crustal
rocks.

Does that sound very conducive to collection, mining, or obtaining
any of them economically?

 

[server]

David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote in
news:t02225$66n$1@dont-email.me:

On 05/03/2022 19:14, whit3rd wrote:
On Saturday, March 5, 2022 at 6:51:22 AM UTC-8,
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

...about the rare earth metals.
Some of those are ONLY in China, and any other place in the
world has to little of it to make any extraction processes too
costly and produce too little.

It\'s not hard to find rare earth minerals, they\'re well spread.
What IS hard, is separating them, which takes lots of chemical
wizardry. So, while one can get a supply of mischmetal (like
for the \'flint\' elements of disposable lighters) anywhere, a pure
neodymium supply for making magnets is going to involve a
shipment from China.


Yes. It\'s not that they are rare in the earth\'s surface rocks -
it is that they are rare within any given rock. There\'s no good
rich ores for them, they are just found as traces in many other
ores.

Many many tons per kilogram of yield in many cases.

 

[Edward Hernandez]

The John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sdhn7c$pkp$4@dont-email.me>:

> The troll doesn\'t even know how to format a USENET post...

And the John Doe troll stated the following in message-id
<sg3kr7$qt5$1@dont-email.me>:

The reason Bozo cannot figure out how to get Google to keep from
breaking its lines in inappropriate places is because Bozo is
CLUELESS...

NOBODY likes the John Doe troll\'s contentless spam.

And yet, the clueless John Doe troll has continued to post incorrectly
formatted USENET articles that are devoid of content (latest example on
Sun, 6 Mar 2022 13:28:26 -0000 (UTC) in message-id
<t02ctq$540$3@dont-email.me>).

This posting is a public service announcement for any google groups
readers who happen by to point out that the John Doe troll does not even
follow the rules it uses to troll other posters.

EcsU5NCODsoU

 

[John Walliker]

On Sunday, 6 March 2022 at 12:37:55 UTC, DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:

The Nazis developed Sarin Gas in WWII. Don\'t recall the US doing
anything of the sort.

The US was manufacturing large quantities of mustard gases during WW2. Not
quite the same as a nerve agent, but still very nasty. There was a very serious
incident when a Liberty ship carrying a cargo of chemical weapons was bombed in the
Italian harbour of Bari.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raid_on_Bari

5) they used depleted ammo in Iraq
Yes, because it is very heavy and makes very good ballistic
projectiles. They were used on enemies, and those enemies died form
the bullet penatration, not the DU.

Unfortunately, it is thought that the uranium oxide dust produced on impact
is harmful to the local population who live, work or play near the wreckage.

John