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Fred Bloggs
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John Larkin
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On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
Gosh, people in Florida might die. Enjoy.
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
>https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
Gosh, people in Florida might die. Enjoy.
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Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:25:48 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
If they are silly enough to stay in Florida when a hurricane looks likely to hit, they\'d qualify for a Darwin Award.
That\'s fewer Gnatguys and John Larkins in the next generation. Better education might be a kinder, gentler way to get there, but Americans don\'t seem to want to pay for that.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
Gosh, people in Florida might die. Enjoy.
If they are silly enough to stay in Florida when a hurricane looks likely to hit, they\'d qualify for a Darwin Award.
That\'s fewer Gnatguys and John Larkins in the next generation. Better education might be a kinder, gentler way to get there, but Americans don\'t seem to want to pay for that.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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server
Guest
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:967d2e9b-7d0a-4f1a-8888-59bfaa1e8b40n@googlegroups.com:
There are plenty of storms. GnatTurd is clueless. But tha fact was
established in this group years ago. We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
news:967d2e9b-7d0a-4f1a-8888-59bfaa1e8b40n@googlegroups.com:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:25:48 AM UTC+10, John Larkin
wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
Gosh, people in Florida might die. Enjoy.
If they are silly enough to stay in Florida when a hurricane looks
likely to hit, they\'d qualify for a Darwin Award.
That\'s fewer Gnatguys and John Larkins in the next generation.
Better education might be a kinder, gentler way to get there, but
Americans don\'t seem to want to pay for that.
There are plenty of storms. GnatTurd is clueless. But tha fact was
established in this group years ago. We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Ever? How can you know?
DecadentLinuxUserNumeroUno@decadence.org wrote:
Anthony William Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote in
news:967d2e9b-7d0a-4f1a-8888-59bfaa1e8b40n@googlegroups.com:
On Saturday, September 24, 2022 at 10:25:48 AM UTC+10, John Larkin
wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2022 17:00:40 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/graphics_at4.shtml?start#contents
Gosh, people in Florida might die. Enjoy.
If they are silly enough to stay in Florida when a hurricane looks
likely to hit, they\'d qualify for a Darwin Award.
That\'s fewer Gnatguys and John Larkins in the next generation.
Better education might be a kinder, gentler way to get there, but
Americans don\'t seem to want to pay for that.
There are plenty of storms. GnatTurd is clueless. But tha fact was
established in this group years ago. We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
W
whit3rd
Guest
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
C
corvid
Guest
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
A
Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 9:29:02 AM UTC+10, John Larkin wrote:
John Larkin doesn\'t know about ice core data. The Antarctic ice cores go back almost a million years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core
There are other deposits of layered materials that go back even further. The instrumentation you use to extract the historical data is pretty subtle and a lot of it has only been developed recently, so in that sense what we know now does reflect the development of better instruments, but that doesn\'t seem to be what he was trying to say.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the
biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
John Larkin doesn\'t know about ice core data. The Antarctic ice cores go back almost a million years
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_core
There are other deposits of layered materials that go back even further. The instrumentation you use to extract the historical data is pretty subtle and a lot of it has only been developed recently, so in that sense what we know now does reflect the development of better instruments, but that doesn\'t seem to be what he was trying to say.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
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John Larkin
Guest
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
J
John Robertson
Guest
On 2022/09/25 5:52 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
I read (and of course now can\'t find) an article on a storm in the UK
about 1,000 years ago that washed away several square miles of
shoreline. The write up was very interesting in terms of damage done to
the country at the time.
I\'ve hunted for it for a while with no luck - can\'t think of core words
from the article that would separate it from all the other stories of
storm damage.
John :-#(#
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
I read (and of course now can\'t find) an article on a storm in the UK
about 1,000 years ago that washed away several square miles of
shoreline. The write up was very interesting in terms of damage done to
the country at the time.
I\'ve hunted for it for a while with no luck - can\'t think of core words
from the article that would separate it from all the other stories of
storm damage.
John :-#(#
W
whit3rd
Guest
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
No, we don\'t infer climate change because of inaccurate records of
old weather; we do it because of accurate records of old weather.
.... like an ice pond that produced four-foot thick blocks a couple of centuries ago,
now staying ice-free through winter
....and plants that bloomed at dates which do not match current crop observations
You\'d be hard pressed to rival the time and temperature precision of
a daffodil deciding when it\'s time to bloom.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
No, we don\'t infer climate change because of inaccurate records of
old weather; we do it because of accurate records of old weather.
.... like an ice pond that produced four-foot thick blocks a couple of centuries ago,
now staying ice-free through winter
....and plants that bloomed at dates which do not match current crop observations
You\'d be hard pressed to rival the time and temperature precision of
a daffodil deciding when it\'s time to bloom.
M
Martin Brown
Guest
On 26/09/2022 02:44, John Robertson wrote:
Biggest in the historical record seems to be a better way to describe it
and what is scary is that we will continue to break the records again
and again with increasing frequency and ferocity of storms.
A warmer atmosphere carrier more water vapour and more power with it.
Is this the one you mean in 1287 that did for some of the Cinque ports?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_England_flood_of_February_1287
https://web.archive.org/web/20120106090117/http://villagenet.co.uk/history/1287-storms.html
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
On 2022/09/25 5:52 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
Biggest in the historical record seems to be a better way to describe it
and what is scary is that we will continue to break the records again
and again with increasing frequency and ferocity of storms.
A warmer atmosphere carrier more water vapour and more power with it.
I read (and of course now can\'t find) an article on a storm in the UK
about 1,000 years ago that washed away several square miles of
shoreline. The write up was very interesting in terms of damage done to
the country at the time.
I\'ve hunted for it for a while with no luck - can\'t think of core words
from the article that would separate it from all the other stories of
storm damage.
Is this the one you mean in 1287 that did for some of the Cinque ports?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_England_flood_of_February_1287
https://web.archive.org/web/20120106090117/http://villagenet.co.uk/history/1287-storms.html
--
Regards,
Martin Brown
F
Fred Bloggs
Guest
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:52:24 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
A
Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:25:22 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
But what if one of them was an a a or a Gnatguy? They misunderstand everything they think they see.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:52:24 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
But what if one of them was an a a or a Gnatguy? They misunderstand everything they think they see.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
F
Fred Bloggs
Guest
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 10:34:35 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
They\'re just descendants of lizards, so what can be expected of them?
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:25:22 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:52:24 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
But what if one of them was an a a or a Gnatguy? They misunderstand everything they think they see.
They\'re just descendants of lizards, so what can be expected of them?
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 09:37:10 +0100, Martin Brown
<\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
Deaths from hurricanes are way down from historical levels, because we
have better warning and transport. Property damage is up because we
have so many luxury beachfront homes and hotels that have insurance.
The biggest killer in US history was the great Galveston storm of
1900. There are a couple of good books, like Isaacs Storm and A
Weekend in September.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/history/#galveston
Galveston now has a enormous ugly concrete seawall. Nice town
otherwise, but has the usual dreadful gulf coast climate, with lots of
bugs.
<\'\'\'newspam\'\'\'@nonad.co.uk> wrote:
On 26/09/2022 02:44, John Robertson wrote:
On 2022/09/25 5:52 p.m., John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <bl@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whit3rd@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
Biggest in the historical record seems to be a better way to describe it
and what is scary is that we will continue to break the records again
and again with increasing frequency and ferocity of storms.
A warmer atmosphere carrier more water vapour and more power with it.
I read (and of course now can\'t find) an article on a storm in the UK
about 1,000 years ago that washed away several square miles of
shoreline. The write up was very interesting in terms of damage done to
the country at the time.
I\'ve hunted for it for a while with no luck - can\'t think of core words
from the article that would separate it from all the other stories of
storm damage.
Is this the one you mean in 1287 that did for some of the Cinque ports?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_England_flood_of_February_1287
https://web.archive.org/web/20120106090117/http://villagenet.co.uk/history/1287-storms.html
Deaths from hurricanes are way down from historical levels, because we
have better warning and transport. Property damage is up because we
have so many luxury beachfront homes and hotels that have insurance.
The biggest killer in US history was the great Galveston storm of
1900. There are a couple of good books, like Isaacs Storm and A
Weekend in September.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/outreach/history/#galveston
Galveston now has a enormous ugly concrete seawall. Nice town
otherwise, but has the usual dreadful gulf coast climate, with lots of
bugs.
A
Anthony William Sloman
Guest
On Tuesday, September 27, 2022 at 12:55:20 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
Mammals split from other tetrapod vertebrates about 220 millions years ago. A a and Gnatguy may be on a devolving branch, but the reversion back to the mean won\'t have got back to the lizards yet. And their problem isn\'t that their perceptions are primitive, it\'s that they perceive what they want to see, rather than anything that has anything much to do with reality. It\'s an evolutionary dead end, but they aren\'t dying out quite as fast as one would wish.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 10:34:35 AM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Monday, September 26, 2022 at 11:25:22 PM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:52:24 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
But what if one of them was an a a or a Gnatguy? They misunderstand everything they think they see.
They\'re just descendants of lizards, so what can be expected of them?
Mammals split from other tetrapod vertebrates about 220 millions years ago. A a and Gnatguy may be on a devolving branch, but the reversion back to the mean won\'t have got back to the lizards yet. And their problem isn\'t that their perceptions are primitive, it\'s that they perceive what they want to see, rather than anything that has anything much to do with reality. It\'s an evolutionary dead end, but they aren\'t dying out quite as fast as one would wish.
--
Bill Sloman, Sydney
J
John Larkin
Guest
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 06:25:18 -0700 (PDT), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
Crazy concept.
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 8:52:24 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 17:06:11 -0700, corvid <b...@ckb.ird> wrote:
On 9/25/22 16:28, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
whi...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 1:46:45 PM UTC-7, John Larkin
wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 20:30:01 -0000 (UTC),
DecadentLinux...@decadence.org wrote:
... We (the globe)just saw the biggest typhoon ever.
Ever? How can you know?
Biggest ever :== biggest ever known.
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for this tiny example of
language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
Geological records haven\'t been changed by the recent gadgets.
How do geological records quantify typhoon intensity over time span
\"ever\" ?
It\'s improbable that \"the biggest typhoon ever\" happened recently.
When the extent of the storm spans the entire Pacific Ocean, that\'s kinda a hint the storm is maximal. How could it possibly get any bigger?
There are various forms of life on this plant that imprint in their DNA every bit of sensory experience throughout their lifetime. One day science will be able to mine this prehistoric DNA to recreate images of the environment exactly as these creatures saw it.
Crazy concept.
J
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On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 01:07:11 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whit3rd@gmail.com>
wrote:
Funny. Where the accurate records of storm intensity, like peak wind
speed and mimimum pressure and size? Time span = \"ever.\"
In ice cores? Fossilized flowers?
The first reliable thermometer was apparently invented in 1714.
Accurate worldwide measurement and record keeping came a lot later.
But 24/7 RTD measurement and logging is pretty recent.
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On Sunday, September 25, 2022 at 4:29:02 PM UTC-7, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 25 Sep 2022 15:55:19 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd <whi...@gmail.com
wrote:
The \'how can you know\' question is too big for
this tiny example of language ambiguity.
Satellites and storm chaser planes are pretty recent gadgets.
\"Climate change\" is mostly instrumentation change.
No, we don\'t infer climate change because of inaccurate records of
old weather; we do it because of accurate records of old weather.
Funny. Where the accurate records of storm intensity, like peak wind
speed and mimimum pressure and size? Time span = \"ever.\"
In ice cores? Fossilized flowers?
The first reliable thermometer was apparently invented in 1714.
Accurate worldwide measurement and record keeping came a lot later.
But 24/7 RTD measurement and logging is pretty recent.