Looking forward to after the election - end of stupid posts

[Clarence]

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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Once again Terry proved he could say nothing without moving his lips!~

PLONK!

 

[Rich Grise]

On Wed, 03 Nov 2004 06:49:07 +0000, xray wrote:

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:28:53 GMT, Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net
wrote:

The other half
apparently believe that Bush acted in a reasonable way when he lied to
congress and the american people, started a war with a country who had
never attacked us directly, and then allowed chaos to destroy the
infrastructure of that country and put it on a path to civil war. That
same 50% of the voting public also seems to believe that the end
justifies the means, because their main argument now appears to be "Sure
he was wrong, sure its a mess, but isn't it better that that 'evildoer'
Saddam is in jail? He wouldn't be if Kerry had been President".

Too late (as I comment) to matter as an argument, but thanks, Robert.
Very well stated.

As votes are counted, I am hoping common sense somehow prevailed over
the Bush-and-company lie storm.

The wonders of democracy. It doesn't matter how wrong you are, as
long as you have a lot of company.

I guess we better start brushing up on our loyalty oaths.

Zeig Heil!
Rich

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 18:01:10 +0100, "Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund"
klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote:


"Fred Bloggs" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
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Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund wrote:


My choice would be Bush as he doesn't keep changing his mind as Kerry

does

and he isn't such a wimp.

You need to read George Soros and understand that refusing to change

[snip]

powers as President to suppress protest and dissent. If you think these
are characteristics of a strong and brave man, then maybe you need
therapy yourself.



Was my point that he was strong and brave? Read my post again

Cheers

Klaus



Repeat after me...

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

Fred Bloggs is the resident village idiot and should be plonked by all

...............

...Jim Thompson

Remember- Bush is a dangerous idiot and liar!

 

[Fred Bloggs]

Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<4185A236.1020904@nospam.com>...

Tom Seim wrote:

Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<41850666.7000307@nospam.com>...


Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund wrote:



My choice would be Bush as he doesn't keep changing his mind as Kerry does
and he isn't such a wimp.

You need to read George Soros and understand that refusing to change
one's mind is not such a good thing.


By that standard Kerry leads Bush by orders of magnitude: Kerry
changes his mind during commercial breaks. The only consistent stand
Kerry has taken is his Vietnam War Atrocity position.

That is another of your partisan lies. I have been following Kerry
closely for months now, and he is rock solidly consistent. You are too
much of a brainwashed idiot to listen to anything Kerry says- and I mean
listen in the sense of comprehend- so how would you know what positions
Kerry takes.


Hmm - the news media in Europe that covers the Kerry/Bush campaign
often talk of Kerry twists and turns. I have only followed it with a
minimum effort, but even I can see he's changing his mind all the time

Cheers

Klaus

I keep hearing this but never with an example. Do have just one example
of this twist and turn? What is your problem that you avoid specifics? I
am only interested in factual detail- generalization and ideology are
for the lower intelligence types. Give me a specific "twist and turn"-
because Kerry is from Massachusetts, his English is much more complex
than that of the Wyoming and Texas crowd- and this may be your problem.
The most common lie promulgated by the right wing is that Kerry voted
down the $87B appropriations bill for the Iraq war. This is true, but
what they are not telling you is that Congress was pushing a competing
appropriations bill simultaneously in competition which did not contain
the hotly contested $20B Halliburton funding, it is was then standard
Congressional practice to vote one bill down in order to advance the
alternative bill. So the "dangerous idiots and liars" have taken that
vote out of context and made it look like Kerry was against
appropriating money for the troops, when he was engaging in standard
strategic voting and voting for appropriating money for the troops all
the time. We now see in retrospect, that if the administration had been
forced to answer Kerry's objections to the appropriations bill, we would
not be in the mess we are today over there- it would have been made
known at the start that the administration had no realistic plans for
the post-invasion phase.

 

[Rich Grise]

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 06:02:48 -0800, Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Fred Bloggs <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<4185A236.1020904@nospam.com>...

That is another of your partisan lies. I have been following Kerry
closely for months now, and he is rock solidly consistent. You are too
much of a brainwashed idiot to listen to anything Kerry says- and I mean
listen in the sense of comprehend- so how would you know what positions
Kerry takes.

Hmm - the news media in Europe that covers the Kerry/Bush campaign
often talk of Kerry twists and turns. I have only followed it with a
minimum effort, but even I can see he's changing his mind all the time

Anybody remember that fable about the straw in the wind?

The flexible one bends, and comes back to face more wind. The rigid
one simply breaks and is useless.

Remember, Bush is a dangerous liar.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Terry Given]

Clarence wrote:

"john jardine" <john@jjdesigns.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund" <klauskvik@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi

Getting fed up with all those posts about the upcoming election, I just
wanted to add an europeans appinion on this topic:

Bush or Kerry?

Bush is stupid, and he shows it
Kerry is equally stupid - but doesn't show it as much

My choice would be Bush as he doesn't keep changing his mind as Kerry does
and he isn't such a wimp. (just not so great with his ties to the church)

Many europeans actually find theese and the last elections very amusing.

ow

can anyone of those two contenders be allowed to rule such a well
functioning country? Just look at the former VP Dan Quayle - isn't there

an

minimum IQ to get into the government administration?

Regards

Klaus



As a casual European opinion, I'd say they're both rich kids from privileged
backgrounds. Either of whom when elected, will act primarily in the best
interest of their sponsors.
regrds
john


So your saying that the European opinion is at the level of the village idiot?

Clarence, have you ever paid any attention to any politicians? It doesnt
really matter what party, country or race, they all seem to be tarred
with the same brush - self-interest (which is, of course what JJ was
talking about). Show me a selfless politician, and I will show you a
politician who is campaigning (read as: lying). It is standard political
practice to say (and do) pretty much whatever the hell it takes to get
(re-)elected, so for the next 3-4 years they can do precisely as they
(read as: their back-room lobbyists) please. Which is usually far, far
from what they said during campaigning. Not that I give a fuck about US
politics, but GHWB's "Read my lips, no new taxes" is a fairly well
publicised example of this phenomenon - how long did that last, 6
months? there is ALWAYS some excuse for the abrupt policy reversals so
often performed in public service (hey, now I get it - "service" as in
"servicing the missus" ie they are their to roger us...)

Cheers
Terry (who doesnt give a shit about the US election)

 

[Frank Bemelman]

"Klaus Vestergaard Kragelund" <klauskvik@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:4184da56$0$255$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk...

Hi

Getting fed up with all those posts about the upcoming election, I just
wanted to add an europeans appinion on this topic:

Bush or Kerry?

Bush is stupid, and he shows it
Kerry is equally stupid - but doesn't show it as much

I don't mind Bush or Kerry being stupid. But Bush is plain
evil. I don't understand he does better than 0.3% in the polls,
because every nation has 0.3% of idiots.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'x' and 'invalid' when replying by email)

 

[Clarence]

"Terry Given" <my_name@ieee.org> wrote in message
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Clarence wrote:

snip

As a casual European opinion, I'd say they're both rich kids from
privileged
backgrounds. Either of whom when elected, will act primarily in the best
interest of their sponsors.
regrds
john

So your saying that the European opinion is at the level of the village
idiot?


Clarence, have you ever paid any attention to any politicians? It doesnt
really matter what party, country or race, they all seem to be tarred
with the same brush - self-interest (which is, of course what JJ was
talking about). Show me a selfless politician, and I will show you a
politician who is campaigning (read as: lying). It is standard political
practice to say (and do) pretty much whatever the hell it takes to get
(re-)elected, so for the next 3-4 years they can do precisely as they
(read as: their back-room lobbyists) please. Which is usually far, far
from what they said during campaigning. Not that I give a fuck about US
politics, but GHWB's "Read my lips, no new taxes" is a fairly well
publicised example of this phenomenon - how long did that last, 6
months? there is ALWAYS some excuse for the abrupt policy reversals so
often performed in public service (hey, now I get it - "service" as in
"servicing the missus" ie they are their to roger us...)

Cheers
Terry (who doesnt give a shit about the US election)

Or much else.
But thank you for verifying that your view is not much use to anyone.
Yes, you view is pretty much the village idiot!

 

[xray]

On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 23:28:53 GMT, Robert Monsen <rcsurname@comcast.net>
wrote:

The other half
apparently believe that Bush acted in a reasonable way when he lied to
congress and the american people, started a war with a country who had
never attacked us directly, and then allowed chaos to destroy the
infrastructure of that country and put it on a path to civil war. That
same 50% of the voting public also seems to believe that the end
justifies the means, because their main argument now appears to be "Sure
he was wrong, sure its a mess, but isn't it better that that 'evildoer'
Saddam is in jail? He wouldn't be if Kerry had been President".

Too late (as I comment) to matter as an argument, but thanks, Robert.
Very well stated.

As votes are counted, I am hoping common sense somehow prevailed over
the Bush-and-company lie storm.