light leakage through loose threads, teflon tape

On Thursday, May 30, 2019 at 1:40:09 PM UTC-7, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 5/30/19 6:16 AM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

Ali wiring is its own pile of trouble. It's not permitted here,
though old installs are occasionally found.

Hasn't been used here in ages either AFAIK.

Big installations do it all the time, but that involves paste, hydraulic crimps,
lugs... not exactly quick-connect fittings. Your local inspector won't see
that in a house, usually.
 
fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 05.03.41 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 19:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 03.29.52 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 03.05.10 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Wed, 29 May 2019 19:14:18 -0700 (PDT), Chris <chris.863@live.com
wrote:

On Thursday, 30 May 2019 01:56:34 UTC+10, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 11:17:38 AM UTC-4, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 14:46:30 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 5/29/19 2:16 AM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 00:31:22 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 5/28/19 5:09 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:27:16 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Yup. All our threaded piping is NPT, precisely so you can torque
it till it doesn't leak. Why would anyone use a non-tapered pipe
thread? Is that really the standard over there?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I guess that's like asking why would anyone use an Edison plug. Some
things might be better changed but don't need to be, and there would
be a downside to doing so.

Well, Edison plugs don't leak a lot of electrons. ;)

Hmm. You get a lot more electrical fires than we do.

Not so you'd notice. From net searches, it seems as though you folks
have about 6000-7000 electrical fires a year, and we have about 28000.
Since the US has about five times the population of the UK, we may even
be a bit ahead.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It seems you're right. Maybe wirenuts aren't as terrible as I thought. They've been banned here since the 50s.

Huh, what do you use if you have no wire nuts? For say ~10A house wiring?

George H.


NT

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30399/nls-30399-2-x-35mm-heavy-duty-double-screw-connect.html

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30007/nls-single-screw-insulated-electrical-connector-2.html

Holy crap! 50x the price of wire nuts!

looks like that single screw ones are 100pcs

I use the "Euro-style" terminal strips for wiring at work. 8 or 10
connection, two screw per, strips are about $6ea.

like these?
https://productimages.biltema.com/v1/Image/product/xlarge/2000017379/4

$6 sounds very expensive

Like that:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/1776293-8/A107253-ND/1874903

I guess the TE name adds 10x to the price ;)

It didn't make
sense but I didn't see the quantity in the title. Thanks for pointing
that out. How do you connect four or five wires together (common in
multi-gang switch boxes)?

seldom have to put wires together, most switches and outlets have holes
for two wires on each connection so you can chain them

I *NEVER* use the stab connections. I will use the ones held by the
screw. I always use pigtails for the neutrals and grounds, as well. I
will daisy chain hots.

they are spring loaded you have to hold in a button to insert the wires

https://www.elviden.dk/uploads/1/0/3/6/10366661/9470384.jpg?172
 
On Friday, 31 May 2019 02:05:10 UTC+1, k...@notreal.com wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019 19:14:18 -0700 (PDT), Chris <chris.863@live.com
wrote:
On Thursday, 30 May 2019 01:56:34 UTC+10, George Herold wrote:

Huh, what do you use if you have no wire nuts? For say ~10A house wiring?

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30399/nls-30399-2-x-35mm-heavy-duty-double-screw-connect.html

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30007/nls-single-screw-insulated-electrical-connector-2.html

Holy crap! 50x the price of wire nuts!

we don't use either of those. We use:
https://www.toolstation.com/search?q=connector%20strip


NT
 
On Friday, May 31, 2019 at 1:19:11 PM UTC+2, Lasse Langwadt Christensen wrote:
fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 05.03.41 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 19:06:13 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 03.29.52 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Thu, 30 May 2019 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT), Lasse Langwadt Christensen
langwadt@fonz.dk> wrote:

fredag den 31. maj 2019 kl. 03.05.10 UTC+2 skrev k...@notreal.com:
On Wed, 29 May 2019 19:14:18 -0700 (PDT), Chris <chris.863@live.com
wrote:

On Thursday, 30 May 2019 01:56:34 UTC+10, George Herold wrote:
On Wednesday, May 29, 2019 at 11:17:38 AM UTC-4, tabb...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 14:46:30 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 5/29/19 2:16 AM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Wednesday, 29 May 2019 00:31:22 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 5/28/19 5:09 PM, tabbypurr wrote:
On Tuesday, 28 May 2019 18:27:16 UTC+1, Phil Hobbs wrote:

Yup. All our threaded piping is NPT, precisely so you can torque
it till it doesn't leak. Why would anyone use a non-tapered pipe
thread? Is that really the standard over there?

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

I guess that's like asking why would anyone use an Edison plug. Some
things might be better changed but don't need to be, and there would
be a downside to doing so.

Well, Edison plugs don't leak a lot of electrons. ;)

Hmm. You get a lot more electrical fires than we do.

Not so you'd notice. From net searches, it seems as though you folks
have about 6000-7000 electrical fires a year, and we have about 28000.
Since the US has about five times the population of the UK, we may even
be a bit ahead.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

It seems you're right. Maybe wirenuts aren't as terrible as I thought. They've been banned here since the 50s.

Huh, what do you use if you have no wire nuts? For say ~10A house wiring?

George H.


NT

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30399/nls-30399-2-x-35mm-heavy-duty-double-screw-connect.html

https://www.sparkydirect.com.au/p/30007/nls-single-screw-insulated-electrical-connector-2.html

Holy crap! 50x the price of wire nuts!

looks like that single screw ones are 100pcs

I use the "Euro-style" terminal strips for wiring at work. 8 or 10
connection, two screw per, strips are about $6ea.

like these?
https://productimages.biltema.com/v1/Image/product/xlarge/2000017379/4

$6 sounds very expensive

Like that:
https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/1776293-8/A107253-ND/1874903

I guess the TE name adds 10x to the price ;)


It didn't make
sense but I didn't see the quantity in the title. Thanks for pointing
that out. How do you connect four or five wires together (common in
multi-gang switch boxes)?

seldom have to put wires together, most switches and outlets have holes
for two wires on each connection so you can chain them

I *NEVER* use the stab connections. I will use the ones held by the
screw. I always use pigtails for the neutrals and grounds, as well. I
will daisy chain hots.

they are spring loaded you have to hold in a button to insert the wires

https://www.elviden.dk/uploads/1/0/3/6/10366661/9470384.jpg?172

And, the contact force is quite high, to make sure the connection is good. It hurts your thum when you need to remove a wire again

Cheers

Klaus
 

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