Liberal members readying for another attack on gun owners

[John-Melb]

Over on the Liberal Party website, there a discussion about gun laws.

One of the Liberal stooges has just posted this

"We were so close in 1996 if it wasn’t for a couple of states without
registration we could have called them all in then. Now of course we
have to wait for another incident like Port Arthur before we can be
free of this menace."

Doesn't that speak volumes.

 

[John-Melb]

On Apr 22, 11:21 am, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Did the nasty keithr upset you so much that you had to start
cross-posting to aus.electronics again? Ahhh you poor fragile little
princess.

Hopefully everybody will ignore your pathetic little attempt for some
sort of revenge I certainly will

Hmm, so it's ok for you to blunder around aus.politics.guns sprouting
you "poor little fragile Johny baby" bullshit, but it's not OK for me
to reply via aus.electronics?

Just like it's OK for your dear friend Wilson to post his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner rants on aus.electronics, but not OK for any
alternative viewpoint to appear.

Bad luck about that.

 

[John-Melb]

On Apr 22, 5:40 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 22/04/2010 4:14 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Apr 22, 11:21 am, keithr<kei...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:

Did the nasty keithr upset you so much that you had to start
cross-posting to aus.electronics again? Ahhh you poor fragile little
princess.

Hopefully everybody will ignore your pathetic little attempt for some
sort of revenge I certainly will

Hmm, so it's ok for you to blunder around aus.politics.guns sprouting
you "poor little fragile Johny baby" bullshit, but it's not OK for me
to reply via aus.electronics?

You are welcome to post anything about electronics there.

Gee, thanks for giving me your permission.

Just like it's OK for your dear friend Wilson to post his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner rants on aus.electronics, but not OK for any
alternative viewpoint to appear.

Cross posting is only done by the most vile posters. Anything that I
post on a newsgroup relates to that newsgroup, if you are so fragile
that the best that you can do is to spray irrelevant crap all over
usenet then you are on the wrong side of pathetic, and will probably
never achieve your aims.

What are my aims? and it's nice to know you classify anything posted
by a "pro-gun" poster as "irrelevant crap".

Bad luck about that.

Unfortunately you are bad luck on everybody, and to the people that you
purport to represent probably the most.

Who have I purported to represent?

 

[John-Melb]

On Apr 22, 7:16 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 22/04/2010 5:49 PM, John-Melb wrote:





On Apr 22, 5:40 pm, keithr<kei...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 22/04/2010 4:14 PM, John-Melb wrote:

On Apr 22, 11:21 am, keithr<kei...@nowhere.com.au>    wrote:

Did the nasty keithr upset you so much that you had to start
cross-posting to aus.electronics again? Ahhh you poor fragile little
princess.

Hopefully everybody will ignore your pathetic little attempt for some
sort of revenge I certainly will

Hmm, so it's ok for you to blunder around aus.politics.guns sprouting
you "poor little fragile Johny baby" bullshit, but it's not OK for me
to reply via aus.electronics?

You are welcome to post anything about electronics there.

Gee, thanks for giving me your permission.

Thats alright, stay on topic and no ill will is generated.
Screw you., and screw your "long standing and highly respected" poster

too!

Just like it's OK for your dear friend Wilson to post his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner rants on aus.electronics, but not OK for any
alternative viewpoint to appear.

Cross posting is only done by the most vile posters. Anything that I
post on a newsgroup relates to that newsgroup, if you are so fragile
that the best that you can do is to spray irrelevant crap all over
usenet then you are on the wrong side of pathetic, and will probably
never achieve your aims.

What are my aims? and it's nice to know you classify anything posted
by a "pro-gun" poster as "irrelevant crap".

Nope, most "Pro-gun" posters are fine, they don't spray irrelevant crap
into newsgroups that have no interest in the subject. You are the only
arsehole that does that.

Me, and you're good friend Trevor, but then you've never had a problem

with his anti-gun rethoric appearing on aus.electronics, did you?

Bad luck about that.

Unfortunately you are bad luck on everybody, and to the people that you
purport to represent probably the most.

Who have I purported to represent?

Those who would liberalise the current Australian gun laws. Of course
you are achieving totally the opposite, anybody who wished for even more
draconian laws would only have to use your posts to prove their point. I
believe that you were once the publicity officer for the Victorian SSAA,
that may go a long way to explaining the gun laws that we have.-

Nope, not the publicity officer, nice try, fail.

"My friends and family deny all knowledge of my existence, let alone
my opinions."

 

[Charles L]

"John-Melb" <mcnamara_john@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:5f8e0c35-1856-498a-83a9-9ec884271f6e@n11g2000prh.googlegroups.com...

Over on the Liberal Party website, there a discussion about gun
laws.

One of the Liberal stooges has just posted this

"We were so close in 1996 if it wasn’t for a couple of states
without
registration we could have called them all in then. Now of course we
have to wait for another incident like Port Arthur before we can be
free of this menace."

Doesn't that speak volumes.

The Liberal Party's actions spoke louder than their words.

You'd have to wonder what any Australian gun owner who votes
Liberal, or Nationals for that matter, would be using for brains.

Charles L

 

[John-Melb]

On Apr 30, 11:53 pm, "Royston Vasey" <roys...@vasey.com> wrote:

And I'd wonder why they'd cross post this off topic material to
aus.electronics

Oh look, isn't that sweet, another aus.electronics idiot who didn't
have a problem with Trivial Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gun-owner venom
and vitriol being posted on aus.electronics, but get's all upset when
alternative viewpoint appears.
Away you go Royston, tell me how TW is one of you long standing and
highly respected posters over on aus.electronics and how "rednecks"
like me don't have the same right to be heard as he does. Let me know
how you believe you have the right to tell me where I can and cannot
post, and how the fact there's and anti-gun and anti-gunowner bigot
posting his diatribe there is totally irrelelvant to wether or not
others with differing views should be heard there.
You people truely disgust me.

 

[John-Melb]

On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you? It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

John, you are an embarrassment to your cause.

Why, because I demand the same right to be heard that you allow an
anti-gun and anti-gunowner zealot ?

 

[John-Melb]

On May 10, 8:20 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

Yeah, right, how is Dorothy by the way?

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your
mates aren't exactly backing your methods up.

That's right, a number told me to piss off, but were quite content to
have Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gun owner rants appearing, funny about
that.

John, you are an embarrassment to your cause.

Why, because I demand the same right to be heard that you allow an
anti-gun and anti-gunowner zealot ?

Thats a new one, now its not only anti-gun but anti-gunowner

Used the term before, you're obviously to ignorant to notice, do you
disagree with my description?

I have met a few in my life who could carry a grudge, but you have
raised it to an artform. Just because that nasty trevor wilson said
something that upset the sensibilities of Princess John of Melbourne,
and those horrid people of aus.electronics who did nothing to protect
the princess' sensibilities, they must be punished for ever.

Those people didn't have a problem with Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gun
owner rants appearing in "their" little corner of Usenet, but got all
upset when an alternative viewpoint appeared. They don't believe that
a gun owner should have the same rights, such as freedom of speech, as
some anti-gun zealot. They clearly classify gun owners as some sort of
second class person. Don't expect me to like it.

Ever consider how childish you are john?
No, why, because I demand the same freedoms "King Keefy" is prepared

to allow others?

 

[John-Melb]

On May 11, 6:11 am, John-Melb <mcnamara_j...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On May 10, 10:01 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 8:20 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.
Since when do I have to justify anything to you?
You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

Yeah, right, how is Dorothy by the way?

Standard comment when you don't have an answer

Well, you introduced your friend to our little "chats".







It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.
It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your
mates aren't exactly backing your methods up.

That's right, a number told me to piss off, but were quite content to
have Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gun owner rants appearing, funny about
that.

They were just ignoring tw's rants same as usual, they would probably
not even have been noticed if you hadn't barged in. You did tw a favour
by drawing attention to his rave - congratulations john.

Gee thanks, I'll remember that next time I'm posting somewhere where
anti-gun zealots are allowed but I'm not.



John, you are an embarrassment to your cause.
Why, because I demand the same right to be heard that you allow an
anti-gun and anti-gunowner zealot ?
Thats a new one, now its not only anti-gun but anti-gunowner

Used the term before, you're obviously to ignorant to notice, do you
disagree with my description?

You confuse indifference for ignorance, but thats hardly surprising you
do get confused easily.

Are you refering to my comments about those anti-gun idiots on
aus.electronics, no confusion there at all.







I have met a few in my life who could carry a grudge, but you have
raised it to an artform. Just because that nasty trevor wilson said
something that upset the sensibilities of Princess John of Melbourne,
and those horrid people of aus.electronics who did nothing to protect
the princess' sensibilities, they must be punished for ever.

Those people didn't have a problem with Trevor's anti-gun and anti-gun
owner rants appearing in "their" little corner of Usenet, but got all
upset when an alternative viewpoint appeared. They don't believe that
a gun owner should have the same rights, such as freedom of speech, as
some anti-gun zealot. They clearly classify gun owners as some sort of
second class person. Don't expect me to like it.

People who go around demanding "Rights" make themselves second class
citizens by their own attitudes.

Remind me again how it's OK for Wilson to post his anti-gun diatribe's
on aus.electronics, but not OK for me to post there.



Ever consider how childish you are john?
No, why, because I demand the same freedoms "King Keefy" is prepared
to allow others?

Kings always have more rights than princesses, didn't you know that
john, and those princesses who get too demanding end up in the tower for
a date with an axe.

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[John-Melb]

On May 10, 8:20 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your
mates aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Not noticing any criticism either, apart from the chanting of a few
idiots on aus.electronics earlier in our discussions.

Tell me Keefy, why are my "methods" so offensive to you, why is it
that you (and others on aus.electronics) didn't have an issue with
Trevors regular anti-gun and anti-gun owner diatribes appearing, but
got all upset when an alternative viewpoint went up?

What gives you the right to tell me to "piss off" whilst being so
accepting of Trevor's little diatribes?

 

[Spartan613]

"keithr" <keith@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:4be7ddfc@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to the
message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your mates
aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action isn't
really part of our culture.

 

[keithr]

Blurter wrote:

On May 11, 6:09 pm, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:
"keithr" <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message

news:4be7ddfc@dnews.tpgi.com.au...





John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.
Since when do I have to justify anything to you?
You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.
It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.
It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to the
message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your mates
aren't exactly backing your methods up.
Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action isn't
really part of our culture.- Hide quoted text -

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Yep, hate to tell ya, but John doesn't appear to need our help when
handing either you or Wilson a first class spanking!

I don't want to be standing near you in an emergency, your situation
appraisal is somewhat lacking.

 

[Blurter]

On May 11, 6:09 pm, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:

"keithr" <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message

news:4be7ddfc@dnews.tpgi.com.au...





John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to the
message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your mates
aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action isn't
really part of our culture.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Yep, hate to tell ya, but John doesn't appear to need our help when
handing either you or Wilson a first class spanking!

 

[John-Melb]

On May 11, 7:14 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Remind me again why it is necessary to keep on harping on about some
piddling little sleight that you have suffered, grow up and get a life.

No, I suffered no personal sleight, but I believe what has happened
here is a very good demonstration of the open hostility towards law
abiding firearms owners from some segments of our society, and will
contiue to use the example to demonstrate this.

Just to remind you again Keith, Trevor, not once, but repeatedly, used
aus.electronics to launch his anti-gun and anti-gunowner diatribe, not
one other poster on aus.electronics told him to take it somewhere
else, not one other poster told him his opinions on gun ownership and
gun owners were O/T or not welcome there, not one. As soon as I
started responding to Trevor's word vomit, I got severely shit-canned.
One poster eventually asked Trevor to take his O/T rantings elsewhere,
not because they were not relevant to the purpose of the board, but
because I was posting there.

And you tell me I am somehow offending public perceptions of gun
owners by posting there, please, I think the above clearly
demonstrates that many on aus.electronics are what can reasonably be
described as "anti-gun", and those attitudes were well entrenched long
before I happened upon the scene.

 

[Spartan613]

"Blurter" <what-hoo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:62c5a441-c312-4972-a57c-0189592e8e9f@u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
On May 11, 6:09 pm, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:

"keithr" <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message

news:4be7ddfc@dnews.tpgi.com.au...





John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action
of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the
message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your mates
aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action
isn't
really part of our culture.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

*Yep, hate to tell ya,

Yet you felt compelled by your pack mentality to tell me anyway.

*but John doesn't appear to need our help when
*handing either you or Wilson a first class spanking!

Really? FYI, I haven't been spanked by anyone, but my parents, for decades.

Run along, funny little man.

--
"Guns don't kill people. It's the bullets do the killing".

 

[Spartan613]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
news:84snrbFjauU1@mid.individual.net...

"keithr" <keith@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:4be922e9@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
Spartan613 wrote:

"keithr" <keith@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message
news:4be7ddfc@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he
can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action
of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your
mates aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

really? I must have missed that bit.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action
isn't really part of our culture.

Having known a fair number of firearms owners, I'd say that they are no
different to the rest of the population, mostly average reasonable
people, a few really good people and a few total arseholes like the
princess.

**Precisely. John McNamara is a fine example of the abject failure of
Australian gun control laws, WRT their restrictions on brain damaged
individuals.

Good point. We don't want brain-damaged individuals messing with potentially
dangerous things.

Straight after the firearms-owners, we need to start checking on electronics
fanatics.

You can do a lot of damage with electronic devices these days.

--
"Guns don't kill people. It's the bullets do the killing".

--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

 

[John-Melb]

On May 12, 9:35 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

Grow up and move on you are demonstrating exactly the characteristics
that the anti-gunners attribute to gun owners.

Yes, you really hate it when rednecks stand up on their hind legs and
demand the same rights as everybody else.

Just to remind you again Keith, Trevor, not once, but repeatedly, used
aus.electronics to launch his anti-gun and anti-gunowner diatribe, not
one other poster on aus.electronics told him to take it somewhere
else, not one other poster told him his opinions on gun ownership and
gun owners were O/T or not welcome there, not one. As soon as I
started responding to Trevor's word vomit, I got severely shit-canned.
One poster eventually asked Trevor to take his O/T rantings elsewhere,
not because they were not relevant to the purpose of the board, but
because I was posting there.

And has he posted anything about guns there since? It is you that is
keeping this pointless vendetta going and achieving nothing but bad
publicity for the gun owners cause.

Vendetta? there's no vendetta. but I feel it's good to let people know

how their actions are perceived. I don't see how I'm achieving any bad
publicity, unless you think the people who said nothing when this
zealot was posting his venom but went feral when alternative viewpoint
appeared can somehow be converted into believing that gun owners have
the same rights as everyone else if I just shut the fuck up, sorry I
don't subscribe to that viewpoint.

And you tell me I am somehow offending public perceptions of gun
owners by posting there, please, I think the above clearly
demonstrates that many on aus.electronics are what can reasonably be
described as "anti-gun", and those attitudes were well entrenched long
before I happened upon the scene.

Nope, in the main they are or were gun-indifferent, but your actions are
inevitably pushing them toward the anti-gun camp. Congratulations john,
you are a totally incompetent evangelist for your cause.

Wrong Keefy, they were already there, I'll remind you again, they
said nothing when Trevor was using aus.electronics to launch his anti-
gun and anti-gunowner tirades, but went feral when altenative
viewpoint appeared.

 

[John-Melb]

On May 13, 2:40 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 13/05/2010 8:33 AM, John-Melb wrote:

On May 12, 9:35 pm, keithr<ke...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:

Grow up and move on you are demonstrating exactly the characteristics
that the anti-gunners attribute to gun owners.

Yes, you really hate it when rednecks stand up on their hind legs and
demand the same rights as everybody else.

Nope, I just hate it when arseholes stand up on their hind legs and
demand attention.





Just to remind you again Keith, Trevor, not once, but repeatedly, used
aus.electronics to launch his anti-gun and anti-gunowner diatribe, not
one other poster on aus.electronics told him to take it somewhere
else, not one other poster told him his opinions on gun ownership and
gun owners were O/T or not welcome there, not one. As soon as I
started responding to Trevor's word vomit, I got severely shit-canned..
One poster eventually asked Trevor to take his O/T rantings elsewhere,
not because they were not relevant to the purpose of the board, but
because I was posting there.

And has he posted anything about guns there since? It is you that is
keeping this pointless vendetta going and achieving nothing but bad
publicity for the gun owners cause.

Vendetta? there's no vendetta. but I feel it's good to let people know
how their actions are perceived.

You made your point, you laboured your point, you wore your point out,
now move on.

I don't see how I'm achieving any bad publicity,

Jeeze, I would expect a screw to have better situational awareness than
that.

unless you think the people who said nothing when this zealot was posting his venom

You don't think that you can be seen as a zealot posting his venom?

Yep, I play by Wilson's rules, so bloody what, you're all sooking
about me, but his venom's just fine being plastered all over "your"
little corner of Usenet.

"O wad some power the giftie gie us To see oursel's as ithers see us!"
Robert burns from "To a Louse" (quite appropriate really).

but went feral when alternative viewpoint
appeared can somehow be converted into believing that gun owners have
the same rights as everyone else if I just shut the fuck up, sorry I
don't subscribe to that viewpoint.

Maybe they can be converted, but not by your tactics. You are
demonstrating all the characteristics that those who work to ban guns
ascribe to gun owners in general.

No Keith, I don't think they can be converted, I think their minds are
well and truely made up on this subject.

And you tell me I am somehow offending public perceptions of gun
owners by posting there, please, I think the above clearly
demonstrates that many on aus.electronics are what can reasonably be
described as "anti-gun", and those attitudes were well entrenched long
before I happened upon the scene.

Nope, in the main they are or were gun-indifferent, but your actions are
inevitably pushing them toward the anti-gun camp. Congratulations john,
you are a totally incompetent evangelist for your cause.

Wrong Keefy, they were already there, I'll  remind you again, they
said nothing when Trevor was using aus.electronics to launch his anti-
gun and anti-gunowner tirades, but went feral when altenative
viewpoint appeared.

Your problem john (or at least one of them) is that your tiny mind
cannot comprehend any situation that is not back and white. Either you
are for us or you are against us. The world unfortunbately for you is a
whole lot more complex than that. Do a survey in Australia with this
question

Fascinating, so explain why they made no comment when Trevor's anti-

gun and anti-gunowner rethoric was posted repeatedly on
aus.electronics, but went feral as soon as alternative viewpoint
appeared.

Explain why Trevor was only asked to stop posting his anti-gun and
anti-gun owner rethoric because I was giving an alternative viewpoint.

If we had BOTH (capitals only used for emphasis, no shouting or
offence intended) been told to piss off, or both been told that our
comments were O/T or unwanted, there would be considerable validity in
what you say. We weren't and there isn't. The people on
aus.electronics who made no comment on Trevor's O/T rethoric but
immediately went feral when I started posting there had well and
truely made up their minds on the matter of lawful gun ownership well
before I appeared in their little corner of Usenet.

"Are Australian gun owners over regulated?

        (A) Yes. There should be few restrictions on who can own a gun
                and what guns they can own.
        (B) No. Gun ownership should be severely resticted possibly
                even banned.
        (C) I couldn't care less."

and the result would be (A) 10% (B) 10% (C) 80%. The vast majority of
Australians simply do not care, there is no good reason why they should
care, and they will probably turn against anybody pushing their views on
the matter down their throats.

If you had let things alone, nobody would have been converted, at worst,
they would just have thought "Boody trevor banging on about guns again"
at best (from your point of view) is may even have turned some away from
his point of view. But you blew that by barging in and making a complete
idiot of yourself (and as you have persisted in doing so ever since).

Before you start whining about him being a "Most valued poster", at
least 99% of his posts in aus.electronics are on topic and are sometimes
interesting, you have never posted anything on topic there so you are
about as welcome as ebola

Yes, I'm sure many of you are very interested in what Trevor has to
say,

 

[John-Melb]

If we had BOTH (capitals only used for emphasis, no shouting or
offence intended)  been told to piss off, or both been told that our
comments were O/T or unwanted, there would be considerable validity in
what you say. We weren't and there isn't. The people on
aus.electronics who made no comment on Trevor's O/T rethoric but
immediately went feral when I started posting there had well and
truely made up their minds on the matter of lawful gun ownership well
before I appeared in their little corner of Usenet.

"no comment on this, what a surprise"

 

[Blurter]

On May 12, 9:06 am, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:

"Blurter" <what-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

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On May 11, 6:09 pm, "Spartan613" <nos...@buggeroff.com> wrote:





"keithr" <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote in message

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John-Melb wrote:
On May 10, 12:36 pm, keithr <ke...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

More boring self justification from john. Jeeze, the guy thinks he can
justify any bastardary that he can come up with with some past action
of
a single poster in another group.

Since when do I have to justify anything to you?

You have been trying to justify your actions for months now.

It wasn't a "single
poster" who objected to my posts but had no criticism of TW's, I seem
to recall it was a number of them, you're just one of the more
persistant.

It was a single poster that you were objecting to. A number told you to
piss orf which was quite reasonable. Remember the objection is not to
the
message, just the messenger and his methods. I do notice that your mates
aren't exactly backing your methods up.

Actually, he's doing just fine on his own.

Firearms owners are often independent types. Pack mentality and action
isn't
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*Yep, hate to tell ya,

Yet you felt compelled by your pack mentality to tell me anyway.

*but John doesn't appear to need our help when
*handing either you or Wilson a first class spanking!

Really? FYI, I haven't been spanked by anyone, but my parents, for decades.

Run along, funny little man.

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"Guns don't kill people. It's the bullets do the killing".- Hide quoted text -

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Sorry Spartan, mea culpa, those comments were meant for Keithr