LG hombot robot vacuum cleaner disassembly

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:03:46 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.

You're *wrong*. *PLEASE* leave the power tools to someone who knows
how to use them. You're dangerous.

 

[John Larkin]

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:07:12 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:03:46 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.

You're *wrong*. *PLEASE* leave the power tools to someone who knows
how to use them. You're dangerous.

I have all 10 of my fingers, which is more than a lot of professional
woodworkers can say.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, the renowned krw@attt.bizz wrote:

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

The branches were on the ground. Just cutting them into 3' pieces for
bundling so the city would haul them off. I'm not getting up on a
ladder with a cordless circular saw. ;-)

I don't have a gas chain saw (just an antique electric one without
guards). The Hitachi version of a sawzall might have been better but I
think the blade had gone walkabout.

Cordless drill: Great, especially when you have at least 2 batteries
Cordless sawzall: okay
Cordless circular saw: pretty much useless
Flashlight attachement: Great because it sits up nicely when in the
attic

The power tool that I really don't like using is the table saw. Much
more so the slider radial arm saw, and way more than a lathe or mill.
Apparently the first thing most folks do is remove that stupid thing
that marks up wood and helps keep it from randomly flinging stuff
toward you at high velocity (riving something?).



Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 22:21:06 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:07:12 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:03:46 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.

You're *wrong*. *PLEASE* leave the power tools to someone who knows
how to use them. You're dangerous.

I have all 10 of my fingers, which is more than a lot of professional
woodworkers can say.

And the time spent doing this is? You *really* shouldn't take up
this, even as a hobby. You *will* hurt yourself.

 

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 02:41:41 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
<speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, the renowned krw@attt.bizz wrote:


Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

The branches were on the ground. Just cutting them into 3' pieces for
bundling so the city would haul them off. I'm not getting up on a
ladder with a cordless circular saw. ;-)

Cutting live wood with a circular saw is *not* a good idea. First,
the pieces aren't round and worse, aren't uniform. When cutting
dimensional lumber, you can clamp the piece so it doesn't move. You
can't (easily) do that with branches. The chances of pinching the
blade are greatly increased and kick-back is a real possibility. That
can really ruin your day.

The Makita isn't much different than operating a cordless screwdriver.
It was quite safe - as safe as an work on a ladder. The saw won't cut
much more than cedar siding, though. Even with a good blade, that's
about all the 4" blade can cut. ;-)

I don't have a gas chain saw (just an antique electric one without
guards). The Hitachi version of a sawzall might have been better but I
think the blade had gone walkabout.

If you don't have the tools to do a job safely, don't do it. Missing
fingers (or worse) aren't fun.

Cordless drill: Great, especially when you have at least 2 batteries
Cordless sawzall: okay
Cordless circular saw: pretty much useless
Flashlight attachement: Great because it sits up nicely when in the
attic

The power tool that I really don't like using is the table saw. Much
more so the slider radial arm saw, and way more than a lathe or mill.
Apparently the first thing most folks do is remove that stupid thing
that marks up wood and helps keep it from randomly flinging stuff
toward you at high velocity (riving something?).

Then you're silly. A RAS is *far* more dangerous than a table saw.
Neither are to be used without a large pile of caution but physics is
working against you with a RAS. A compound slider is much safer but
it's not really comparable to either.

Riving knife? That's basically a splitter on steroids. It keeps the
kerf open so the wood doesn't pinch the board. The difference between
a riving knife and a splitter is that the knife adjusts to the height
of the blade, so can be used for non-thru cuts. They don't damage the
wood in any way.

If you're talking about the "blade guard", it's purpose is to tell you
that your fingers are getting too close. Your eyes should be telling
you that. ;-) Part of many blade guards is a splitter and anti-kick
plaws. I rarely use the guard myself, and prefer a separate splitter
and plaws (removes is seconds). I like to see what I'm doing, also.

Plaws only "mark" the wood if they're needed to save your bacon.
Marking up the wood is a small price. OTOH, I find it simpler to just
not stand in the path of potential projectiles. ;-) BTW, I had
*many* more such problems with my RAS (5, that I can remember) than my
table saw (0). The RAS hasn't been used in well over 20 years. One
day I'll put it back together.


--

 

[Jerry Peters]

In sci.electronics.repair Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, the renowned krw@attt.bizz wrote:


Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

The branches were on the ground. Just cutting them into 3' pieces for
bundling so the city would haul them off. I'm not getting up on a
ladder with a cordless circular saw. ;-)

I don't have a gas chain saw (just an antique electric one without
guards). The Hitachi version of a sawzall might have been better but I
think the blade had gone walkabout.

Cordless drill: Great, especially when you have at least 2 batteries
Cordless sawzall: okay
Cordless circular saw: pretty much useless
Flashlight attachement: Great because it sits up nicely when in the
attic

The power tool that I really don't like using is the table saw. Much
more so the slider radial arm saw, and way more than a lathe or mill.
Apparently the first thing most folks do is remove that stupid thing
that marks up wood and helps keep it from randomly flinging stuff
toward you at high velocity (riving something?).

Which is why you don't stand directly behind the table saw, right in
the path of any projectile.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:34:55 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 22:21:06 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:07:12 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:03:46 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.

You're *wrong*. *PLEASE* leave the power tools to someone who knows
how to use them. You're dangerous.

I have all 10 of my fingers, which is more than a lot of professional
woodworkers can say.

And the time spent doing this is?

A lot, for an electrical engineer. I've also done, and do, a fair amount of
metal machining, mills and drill presses and bandsaws, too. A bandsaw is more
dangerous than a circular saw.

You *really* shouldn't take up
>this, even as a hobby. You *will* hurt yourself.

Haven't so far. My worst tool accident was cutting my finger with a hand
hacksaw. Band-aid level injury.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[Spehro Pefhany]

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:47:20 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

A lot, for an electrical engineer. I've also done, and do, a fair amount of
metal machining, mills and drill presses and bandsaws, too. A bandsaw is more
dangerous than a circular saw.

I won't have a vertical wood bandsaw. I have one of these
http://www.grifdigital.com/metalwork/images/bandsaw.jpg

You put a chunk of metal into it, start it, and go get a coffee. It
shuts itself off when it cuts through. Makes a bit of a racket, but
it's a lot nicer than the way a hacksaw sounds when I'm the one doing
the sawing. ;-)

They're like $250-300, courtesy of Chinese manufacturing. Throw outthe
blade it comes with, and put a nice Starrett bimetal blade on it, and
it's ready for work.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

 

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 09:47:20 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 11:34:55 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 22:21:06 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 20:07:12 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 17:03:46 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 19:33:42 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

Not much different from cutting a 2x4. Sure, keep body parts away from
the blade, in either case.

You're *wrong*. *PLEASE* leave the power tools to someone who knows
how to use them. You're dangerous.

I have all 10 of my fingers, which is more than a lot of professional
woodworkers can say.

And the time spent doing this is?

A lot, for an electrical engineer. I've also done, and do, a fair amount of
metal machining, mills and drill presses and bandsaws, too. A bandsaw is more
dangerous than a circular saw.

Utter nonsense. A bandsaw will not kick-back. A circular saw (skill,
table, or RAS) certainly will, and when it does it spits things at
high velocity, if you're lucky. If you're not, it can suck fingers
into the sharp bits. Bandsaws do not have any failure mode that will
pull you into it or throw things at you.

You *really* shouldn't take up
this, even as a hobby. You *will* hurt yourself.

Haven't so far. My worst tool accident was cutting my finger with a hand
hacksaw. Band-aid level injury.

That attitude is just asking to lose digits, or worse.

 

On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 20:18:47 +0000 (UTC), Jerry Peters
<jerry@example.invalid> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair Spehro Pefhany <speffSNIP@interlogdotyou.knowwhat> wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, the renowned krw@attt.bizz wrote:


Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

The branches were on the ground. Just cutting them into 3' pieces for
bundling so the city would haul them off. I'm not getting up on a
ladder with a cordless circular saw. ;-)

I don't have a gas chain saw (just an antique electric one without
guards). The Hitachi version of a sawzall might have been better but I
think the blade had gone walkabout.

Cordless drill: Great, especially when you have at least 2 batteries
Cordless sawzall: okay
Cordless circular saw: pretty much useless
Flashlight attachement: Great because it sits up nicely when in the
attic

The power tool that I really don't like using is the table saw. Much
more so the slider radial arm saw, and way more than a lathe or mill.
Apparently the first thing most folks do is remove that stupid thing
that marks up wood and helps keep it from randomly flinging stuff
toward you at high velocity (riving something?).

Which is why you don't stand directly behind the table saw, right in
the path of any projectile.

Behind the fence is the safest place to be. ...and *never* reach
across or behind the blade.

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2014-04-10, krw@attt.bizz <krw@attt.bizz> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

Can you buy a 9" angle grinder with less?
(would anyone want to?)

granted these tools need both hands, but they are hand tools.


--
umop apisdn


--- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news@netfront.net ---

 

[John Larkin]

On 14 Apr 2014 13:07:53 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-04-10, krw@attt.bizz <krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

Can you buy a 9" angle grinder with less?
(would anyone want to?)

granted these tools need both hands, but they are hand tools.

Hell, a Dremel is close to 1/4 HP!


--

John Larkin Highland Technology Inc
www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com

Precision electronic instrumentation

 

[Cydrome Leader]

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

 

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

Than using a circular saw as a chainsaw? You bet your ass! That is
what he's doing, in fact. There is a reason these tools exist.

 

On Mon, 14 Apr 2014 20:52:17 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On 14 Apr 2014 13:07:53 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2014-04-10, krw@attt.bizz <krw@attt.bizz> wrote:
On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

Can you buy a 9" angle grinder with less?
(would anyone want to?)

granted these tools need both hands, but they are hand tools.

Hell, a Dremel is close to 1/4 HP!

Bullshit.

 

[Cydrome Leader]

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

Than using a circular saw as a chainsaw? You bet your ass! That is
what he's doing, in fact. There is a reason these tools exist.

I can't think of any use of a circular saw that makes it more dangerous
than a chainsaw.

 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:41:33 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
<presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

Than using a circular saw as a chainsaw? You bet your ass! That is
what he's doing, in fact. There is a reason these tools exist.

I can't think of any use of a circular saw that makes it more dangerous
than a chainsaw.

Then you can't think. Each tool has its uses and its dangers. Using
the wrong tool is always dangerous.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:20:10 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:41:33 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

Than using a circular saw as a chainsaw? You bet your ass! That is
what he's doing, in fact. There is a reason these tools exist.

I can't think of any use of a circular saw that makes it more dangerous
than a chainsaw.

Then you can't think. Each tool has its uses and its dangers. Using
the wrong tool is always dangerous.

I have noticed that, most of the time, there is something within reach
that will work well enough.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com
http://www.highlandtechnology.com

 

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 17:04:52 -0700, John Larkin
<jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 19:20:10 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Wed, 16 Apr 2014 18:41:33 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Tue, 15 Apr 2014 17:56:29 +0000 (UTC), Cydrome Leader
presence@MUNGEpanix.com> wrote:

In sci.electronics.repair krw@attt.bizz wrote:
On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 16:15:44 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 18:49:37 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Fri, 11 Apr 2014 07:54:15 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
speffSNIP@interlogDOTyou.knowwhat> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 16:42:37 -0700, the renowned John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:37:39 -0400, krw@attt.bizz wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 15:07:38 -0700, John Larkin
jlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Thu, 10 Apr 2014 18:50:31 GMT, Jan Panteltje
pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> wrote:

On a sunny day (Thu, 10 Apr 2014 09:16:12 -0700) it happened John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
asgdk9d29q9ds74218i3r5me51loi12pm5@4ax.com>:

I avoid battery-powered tools. They are wimpy, and the batteries will die in a
year or two.

You have a cellphone?

Sure, a simple one. I charge it about every other week, and I've
replaced the battery once. But it's not a power tool.

You're not going to get a horsepower or so out of a battery for long,
especially when the battery is two years old.

You're not going to get a "horsepower or so" out of a hand tool.
You're in the stationary tool realm at a HP (Craftsman HPs don't
count).

120 volts, 15 amps is 1800 watts. Lots of circular saws pull 13 amps,
1560 watts.

Cordless circular saws (even small 6.5" ones) are close to useless.

Not so. I have a DeWalt that's quite nice on plywood and such. I
also have an older Makita that's great for cedar siding. It sure as
hell beats a 10lb. corded monster when you're trying to trim a piece
of siding, 15' up a ladder on the side of the house. ;-)

I've got a Hitachi one that came in a kit- cut up few ~2" branches
that were felled by an ice storm and it was already dying.

A circular saw used on a tree? You must be suicidal. Cutting a 2"
diameter branch with a 6" saw? You *have* to be! Haven't you ever
heard of a chain saw, or even a reciprocating saw? ;-)

Aren't trees still made out of wood?

Yes, and fingers are still made of skin and bone; much softer than
even wood. Circular saws are very dangerous things when used by a
someone with no respect for them. They are *not* designed for this
sort of thing.

and a chainsaw is safer?

Than using a circular saw as a chainsaw? You bet your ass! That is
what he's doing, in fact. There is a reason these tools exist.

I can't think of any use of a circular saw that makes it more dangerous
than a chainsaw.

Then you can't think. Each tool has its uses and its dangers. Using
the wrong tool is always dangerous.

I have noticed that, most of the time, there is something within reach
that will work well enough.

Yeah, a friend thought the same thing about hammers, until he used a
framing hammer to drive cut nails. Some ten eye surgeries later he
figured out just what a mistake that was.