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[knuttle]

On 12/29/2021 9:19 PM, John wrote:

Find us even a single scientific definition of mRNA that does not have
\"stupid claims\" of it being either \"genetic material\" or related to
\"genes\" (or both) in that definition.

The problem is with the word THERAPY, not genetic.

Rod Speed,

Why do you always play your silly games with word semantics such that you
create your own personal definition of what \"therapy\" means but only to you?

Now that you can\'t deny that mRNA is genetic material, you are playing you
silly little games about what the treatment of the disease should be called.

Since you\'re too stupid to even look up usage examples, I\'ll do it for you.

https://www.google.com/search?q=definition+of+therapy
Example in use: \"a course of antibiotic therapy\"

 

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 12/29/2021 8:50 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 12/29/2021 5:00 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

If that was true, how do you account for the Texas Republican abortion
laws?

You just make up stuff to suite your agenda at the moment.

Most people who are rabidly political, like you appear to be, are too
stupid
to understand what I\'m going to say below, which means I\'m wasting my time

You got that right Arlen Nut-All. You wasted your time.

 

[knuttle]

On 12/29/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

> You wasted your time.

Plonk.

 

[John]

knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote

John wrote

Find us even a single scientific definition of mRNA that does not have
\"stupid claims\" of it being either \"genetic material\" or related to
\"genes\" (or both) in that definition.

The problem is with the word THERAPY, not genetic.

Why do you always play your silly games with word semantics

Words matter with rigorous science.

such that you create your own personal definition of what \"therapy\" means
but only to you?

Even sillier than you usually manage and that’s saying something.

 

[Ed Pawlowski]

On 12/29/2021 10:13 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 12/29/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

You wasted your time.

Plonk.

Sheese, I get plonked for being honest. Not fair!

 

[Bob F]

On 12/29/2021 8:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/29/2021 10:13 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 12/29/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

You wasted your time.

Plonk.

Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!

 

[Bob F]

On 12/29/2021 8:28 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/29/2021 10:13 PM, knuttle wrote:
On 12/29/2021 9:57 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

You wasted your time.

Plonk.

Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!

Getting plonked by the nutto. Priceless!

 

[The Real Bev]

On 12/29/2021 02:00 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/29/2021 2:12 PM, knuttle wrote:

Perhaps a simpler way to summarize the politicized science problem set is

Rabid Democrats: It\'s your body my choice
Rabid Republicans: It\'s my body my choice

If that was true, how do you account for the Texas Republican abortion
laws?

Religion. Real shame those people can\'t separate religion from
politics. You\'d think that they\'d be smarter. Once you allow a god to
tell you what you should do all limits are off.


--
Cheers, Bev
Red ship crashes into blue ship - sailors marooned.

 

[Peeler]

On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 14:39:26 +1100, John, better known as obnoxious
cantankerous trolling senile geezer Rodent Speed, wrote:

<FLUSH the abnormal trolling senile cretin\'s latest trollshit unread>

--
williamwright addressing Rodent Speed:
\"You are an insecure blathermouth with an inferiority complex.\"
MID: <j08dicFcuptU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 21:58:19 -0400, Mayayana wrote:

Knuttle has been around for decades.
But this John guys is brand new.

You do realize who this \"John\" is you\'re speaking with, don\'t you?

Of course, he does! But his abnormal need to blather endlessly is such that
he will gladly ignore it, time and again. Yep, many of the senile
blabbermouths here ARE that pathetic. <BG>

 

[Peeler]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2021 16:56:02 -0700, lowbrowwoman, the endlessly driveling,
troll-feeding, senile idiot, blabbered again:

And sometimes it\'s an informed decision... Pull the Keihin jug or pour
a slug of SeaFoam

Ay, lookie! TWO capital letters within one word, bigmouth! LOL

--
Yet more absolutely idiotic senile blather by lowbrowwoman:
\"I save my fries quota for one of the local food trucks that offers
poutine every now and then. If you\'re going for a coronary might as well
do it right.\"
MID: <ivdi4gF8btlU1@mid.individual.net>

 

[Peter W.]

....that one can\'t fix Stupid.

My family and I are vaccinated.

Because we are not stupid.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Fox\'s Mercantile]

On 12/30/21 6:31 AM, Peter W. wrote:

...that one can\'t fix Stupid.

My family and I are vaccinated.

Because we are not stupid.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Neither am I.
We got our shots in March, and the booster in September.


--
\"I am a river to my people.\"
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com

 

[John Robertson]

On 2021/12/30 9:01 a.m., Fox\'s Mercantile wrote:

On 12/30/21 6:31 AM, Peter W. wrote:

...that one can\'t fix Stupid.

My family and I are vaccinated.

Because we are not stupid.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

Neither am I.
We got our shots in March, and the booster in September.

Yeah I\'ve had the original two shots and the booster. I\'ve also had my
Polio, Scarlet Fever, Typhoid, Smallpox, and other shots that were
required for travel, staying a healthy adult, or being a child of the 50s...

A friend of mine has mild polio, he got it as a child in Asia - shots
weren\'t available there at the time.

I\'m not an idiot about shots - although the jury is out on other things...

John :-#)#

 

[rbowman]

On 12/29/2021 07:01 PM, knuttle wrote:

On 12/29/2021 7:56 PM, rbowman wrote:

And sometimes it\'s an informed decision... Pull the Keihin jug or
pour a slug of SeaFoam into the tank and see what happens. No more
sputtering, decision loop complete.

What does all those smoke particles do to the super expensive cats?

The cat adopted me; the only cost is cat food and he\'s happy with
Friskies. Oh, you meant catalytic converters? Let me explain a Harley\'s
exhaust system. I\'ve got one set of mufflers with tabs near the end so
if a cop shoves a stick it he will think there are actually baffles.

The Toyota is the only thing I have with a cat. I\'ve had three of the
same model and never had fuel problems so no need for SeaFoam. I don\'t
use the \'injector cleaner\' snake oil either.

I use Stabil in the tanks of the stuff that will be down for the winter
but I\'ve had long debates with myself over whether it\'s necessary.

That\'s another interesting discussion -- how much of the snake oil
actually has a beneficial effect. STP oil or gas? Marvel Mystery Oil?
Bar\'s Stop Leak. I have used Bar\'s with some success but it was in a
\'62 Dodge D100. I don\'t think I\'d use it in anything made in this century.

 

[knuttle]

On 12/29/2021 11:37 PM, Bob F wrote:

You wasted your time.

Plonk.

Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!

Bob F. is likely Pawlowski becuase he knows Pawlowski is in everyone\'s
killfile already so Bob F re-posts Pawlowski\'s idiocy.

1. Pawlowski is a rabid Democrat (I\'m not political - he is).
2. Because he\'s a rabid Democrat, he believes _everything_ they tell him.
3. One of those things he believes is it\'s \"*My body _my_ choice*\"

Yet, when it comes to the \"vaccine\", Pawlowski says it\'s NOT your choice.
a. Pawlowski believes with the vaccine it\'s \"*Your body _HIS_ choice*\"
b. He\'s \"being honest\" when he tells us this crap (which Democrats fed him)
c. I\'m \"being honest\" also - when I say that only an idiot thinks that way

 

[knuttle]

On 12/29/2021 11:37 PM, Bob F wrote:

Sheese, I get plonked for being honest.  Not fair!

Getting plonked by the nutto. Priceless!

You rabid Democrats don\'t seem to like any scientific statements because
they\'re true and that\'s why you can\'t refute them other than to claim that
anyone speaking true statements must be a nutto.

This BobF already said anyone who speaks logic must be from the far right.
Now he says anyone speaking true scientific statements must be a nutto.

The clock is still ticking on you rabid Democrats (or even any rabid
Republicans out there and even any people of even average intelligence) on
finding a single scientific statement that I\'ve made that you found even a
single incorrect statement that you can show is incorrect.

So far you haven\'t found one (for example, you repeatedly claimed mRNA isn\'t
genetic material and then you claimed a medical procedure involving
injections isn\'t under the realm of medical therapy and then you claimed
that the risk of dying from Covid for kids in the USA wasn\'t 0.002% (that
is, they have a 99.998% chance of NOT dying) nor that the risk for all
adults (including the ones so sick they\'re going to die soon anyway) is only
0.2% (which means the risk to any one person of not dying is 99.8%).

When it comes to the scientific fact that most people are naturally immune
to Covid you rabid Democrats failed to comprehend that this means both the
seropositive and the seronegative people because you don\'t seem to like the
fact that far more than half the population exhibits zero symptoms to Covid.

What\'s surprising is that Covid is indeed a dangerous disease in that all
those asymptomatic people (at least the seropositive ones) can and do infect
others (despite the early claims from the WHO that it would be \"very rare\").

But I form that understanding of the disease from scientific facts.
You rabid {Democrats,Republicans} form your basis only on intense fright.

You call anyone who speaks logic using scientific facts a \"nutto.\"
I suspect it\'s because you don\'t understrand logic and scientific facts.

You\'re ignorant (which is fine) but you\'re also stupid.
Because you\'re stupid, you\'ll remain ignorant of all the scientific facts.

The Democrat\'s line of \"your body MY choice\" appeals to you.
Not on the basis of logic. Not on the basis os scientific fact.

Merely on the basis of your own undeniably uncontrollable fear.

 

[knuttle]

On 12/30/2021 12:03 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

Religion. Real shame those people can\'t separate religion from
politics. You\'d think that they\'d be smarter. Once you allow a god to
tell you what you should do all limits are off.

What I\'m about to explain below is long - but it explains everything.
And I mean everything.

However, the reader must be of at least average intelligence to benefit.
The ignorance of people can be cured by reading but their stupidity can\'t.

The rabid {Democrats,Republicans} position on these two issues is unsound.
a. The rabid Democrats\' position on the vaccine NOT being your choice.
b. The rabid Republicans\' position on abortion being based on religion.

We\'ve hashed out how asinine the Democrats\' position is where only an idiot
wouldn\'t instantly notice how firmly they stand on the principle of your
choice of \"some\" medical procedures but it\'s no longer your choice on
others.

Either these rabid Democrats firmly stand on the same resolute principle for
both or they instantly prove *they don\'t give a shit about medical choice*.

The same firm principles should stand for abortion.

The scientific facts are that abortion is a very ugly thing indeed.
In New York state, for example, you can abort at 9 months and beyond.

As longs as that innocent child hasn\'t been born - you can abort in NY.
They don\'t even make any pretext about the ability to survive on its own.

The ostensible argument is a medical necessity & privacy argument (as
enshrined in the Supreme Court so we can\'t realistically hash it out here).

Just as the rabid Democrats hate that people have a right to own guns (as
enshrined in the Constitution so we\'re not going to hash that out here), the
rabid Republicans hate that people have a right to abort their unborn child.

The problem for intelligent people to realize is _how_ they each go about
eliminating your current rights (as enshrined in the law of the land today).

What\'s rather interesting is my observation that both actually go about
taking away your rights the same way anyone goes about attacking a fortres.

The Germans chipped away for a while at Fortress Europe and then when they
invaded Poland everyone realized they would incessantly chip away (each time
claiming that\'s their _last_ attack) until nothing was left.

They\'ll never stop.
Only until France & Britain drew a line in the sand did they stop for pause.
But even then, they didn\'t attack the Fortress Maginot directly.
Nobody sane attacks the Constitution directly.
They find a way to eliminate your rights with a million little attacks.

Every law the rabid {Democrats,Republicans} make on {guns,abortion} are an
attempt to chip away at your rights until you no longer have those rights.

The only sensible protection you have is to draw a line in the sand.
It\'s how _all_ military attacks against anyone have ever worked.

The Japanese didn\'t go frontal against Washington DC in WWII.
They attacked the easier outlying islands instead.

Why?
Because they wanted to chip away slowly.
They and the Germans and Atilla the Hun and the Mongols and everyone in
history from the Mysterious Sea Peoples to Alexander to Hannibal & Scipio,
to Vercingetorix to Arminius (fast forward) to today do the same thing.

Everyone. In all human history. They all do the same thing.
It takes only an average intelligence (no more needed than that) to see it.

If you can\'t go frontal against the fortress, you chip away forever.
Until the walls fall down and you finally massacre everyone inside at will.

Only an _intelligent_ person can see what the rabid politicians are doing.
a. The rabid Democrats are chipping away at your right to own a gun
b. The rabid Republicans are chipping away at your right to abort a child

It doesn\'t matter to them any principle.
That\'s what any intelligent person can see.

You can easily tell principle doesn\'t matter if you\'re intelligent.
a. The rabid Democrats don\'t give a shit about \"your body\" \"your choice\"
b. The rabid Republicans don\'t give a shit about \"your medical privacy\"

Each wants to eliminate one of your rights.
Unfortunately, history shows clearly there is only one way to defend.

And that is to draw a line in the sand and defend against every parry.
(If you can come up with a better defense, you\'ll change history.)

 

[knuttle]

On 12/30/2021 2:12 PM, rbowman wrote:

That\'s another interesting discussion -- how much of the snake oil
actually has a beneficial effect. STP oil or gas? Marvel Mystery Oil?
Bar\'s Stop Leak. I have used Bar\'s with some success but it was in a
\'62 Dodge D100. I don\'t think I\'d use it in anything made in this century.

You seem to be intelligent so you immediately understood what I was saying.

1. Some stuff is pure snake oil (devoid of any benefits)
2. Some stuff works ok (but it has negatives they don\'t tell you about)

My comment about the cats is I\'ve seen what comes out the pipe when engines
ingest that stuff and it\'s not pretty if you wince at the loss of your cats.

Now I\'m well aware that everything has pros and cons, just like high zinc
engine oil is great for diesels and non-cat vehicles but it\'s terrible on
the cats.

The problem with all these miracle cures in a can that I see is that the can
may not even tell you that zinc will ruin your cat - they just tell you how
great zinc is in motor oil. You\'re supposed to _know_ zinc ruins your cats.

It\'s a question I ask of all miracle cures because I don\'t know the answer.
What does seafoam do to the cats?

 

[knuttle]

On 12/30/2021 12:25 AM, The Real Bev wrote:

> Bumps on the soles of boots are called \"lugs\".

To be clear there were two reasons I corrected my use of lug bolt.

One was that the word police have been attacking me for using the correct
scientific words for what mRNA is (as you\'re likely well aware) and even for
their lack of understanding of what it means that most people are immune to
covid (more than half anyway, whether seropositive or seronegative it seems)
and even for my use of the medical therapy terms.

Basically they don\'t believe in science so what they do is attack science by
claiming that the words used aren\'t words that they would rather you use.

The words they want you to use make things sound different to them.

An example is how these rabid Democrats spit out that 700,000 people died of
Covid in the US and yet at the same time they _refute_ that the risk to any
one USA individual is only 0.2% (if we know nothing else about them, which
is also inherent in the 700,000 number the rabid Democrats just spit out).

Do you see what I see which is that they hate any accurate number that any
one individual must assess but they love the same accurate number when it
shows (what seems to them to be a bigger) risk to the entire population?

Essentially they only understand scientific facts that make them feel more
scared. They seem to intensely dislike scientific facts that don\'t appear to
make the problem far worse than it, scientifically speaking, actually is.

They hated so much that most people are naturally immune to covid that they
argued that some people (very few) are apparently seronegative, even as that
means nothing in terms of the scientific fact that more than half the human
population is already naturally immune to covid (they feel no symptoms).

Of course everyone intelligent (except perhaps for Maria Van Kerkhove of the
WHO for some strange reason) knows the scientific fact that even this vast
majority of asymptomatic people can still almost as easily transmit covid
during the infectious period as a person who can who exhibits symptoms.

But did you see the huge lengths they went to about word semantics to deny
that all those scientific facts are, like it or not, scientific facts?

It\'s that kind of person I was defending against with my clarification of
lug as my ignorance can be cured but their stupidity cannot ever be cured.