LED schematic

I am a jeweler who knows nothing about electronics.I was refered to
this site for help. I want to do jewelry with a LED component inside
which will show through various transparent stones , I would like it
to be a simple off- on with a steady light also to run off a watch
battery. I assume this is fairly simple but have no idea about the
electronics can anyone here point me in the right direction? thanks
Dave Owen

 

[petrus bitbyter]

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I am a jeweler who knows nothing about electronics.I was refered to
this site for help. I want to do jewelry with a LED component inside
which will show through various transparent stones , I would like it
to be a simple off- on with a steady light also to run off a watch
battery. I assume this is fairly simple but have no idea about the
electronics can anyone here point me in the right direction? thanks
Dave Owen

A LED, any LED, consumes more energy then a watch battery can provide for
more then a short period of time. For short, intermittend use I saw two of
those batteries in series with a switch and a white LED. No electronics
whatshowever. It serves very well as a keyring light.

petrus bitbyter

 

[ian field]

<designsbyowen@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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I am a jeweler who knows nothing about electronics.I was refered to
this site for help. I want to do jewelry with a LED component inside
which will show through various transparent stones , I would like it
to be a simple off- on with a steady light also to run off a watch
battery. I assume this is fairly simple but have no idea about the
electronics can anyone here point me in the right direction? thanks
Dave Owen

Traditionally LEDs have been driven from a fixed voltage source with a
current limiting resistor in series, this is important as LEDs have a fixed
forward voltage drop which should not be exceeded (between 1.75V & 2.2V for
red, green or yellow and about 3.4V for blue or white), this obviously means
a single 1.5V button cell will not do, the voltage source needs to be
sufficiently higher than the LED forward voltage that some voltage can be
dropped across the resistor to produce (Vs-Vled)/R=I which could be in the
range 2 to 20mA depending on the rated specification of the LED.

It is however increasingly becoming common practice to use a transistor or
chip voltage converters to drive a LED from a single cell, some types pulse
drive the LED so it can be driven harder for correspondingly narrow pulses -
persistence of vision gives the illusion of higher light output for a given
battery drain.

A couple of months ago Elektor Electronics magazine published an article on
a single-cell LED driver chip, accompanied by a free cover mount ready built
PCB, google for Elektor and see if the back issue is still available. The
chip is not much bigger than a pin head and only needs a couple of small
components added to make an LED driver not much bigger than the button cell.

 

[Jon Slaughter]

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I am a jeweler who knows nothing about electronics.I was refered to
this site for help. I want to do jewelry with a LED component inside
which will show through various transparent stones , I would like it
to be a simple off- on with a steady light also to run off a watch
battery. I assume this is fairly simple but have no idea about the
electronics can anyone here point me in the right direction? thanks
Dave Owen

Yes, you can do this easily. Get a bettery, a switch, a resistor(or a few
from 100ohms to 10kohms(2 of each say since they are cheap)), and a few
LED's. You can probably get everything for 10$ or so if you shop around or
maybe 10000$ at Radio Sucks.

Battery + ---- LED ---- Resistor ---- - Battery

You just make a path from the + side of the batter to the - side of the
batter(closed loop) and put the components along the path. If it doesn't
work the first time then flip the battery around(because direction does
matter with an LED) or the LED. The larger value the resistor the dimmer
the LED will be but it will draw less current and hence last longer.

You then put your switch in the path too and it doesn't matter where. Do
not hook up the LED without a resistor though as it will burn out very
quickly.

Once you do this and get it working you'll have some idea. Not sure about
the watch battery though as they are pretty low power sources and will be
drained quickly but depending on how much current you draw.

Probably best way to get started is just experiment and ask questions. Its
not as hard as it looks.

 

[Impmon]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 14:27:51 -0600, "Jon Slaughter"
<Jon_Slaughter@Hotmail.com> wrote:

You then put your switch in the path too and it doesn't matter where.

I do strongly suggest a switch so the LED can be turned off when not
needed to conserve batteries.

Do >not hook up the LED without a resistor though as it will burn out
very quickly.

Not necessarily. If the battery is equal or less than LED forward
voltage, resistor is not needed. The formula for finding optimal
resistor is:
Vsource - V_LED / I_LED

Vsource is the battery, V_LED is the LED forward voltage, and I_LED is
the current in Amp (multiple mA by 1000). In most cases 20mA is
enough for normal use without blinding people. Take a red LED for
example, off a 3v button battery:

3 - 1.7 / .02 = 1.3 / .02 = 65 ohms.

Since you may end up with non standard resistor value, it usually
works to round up to nearest standard resistor value (like 68) or even
higher to be conservative (like 82 or 100)

Blue and white LED can run off 3v batteries without resistor since
their normal voltage is just a bit higher.