Lasers: Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again

[news2020]

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------

The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

It will take several days for such bleeding to heal.
It is caused by a 1/2 cm to 1 cm wide beacon or laser
burning the lower intestinal inner soft lining and also
drying up the stool.This would tear the intestinal
lining causing bleeding the next time you visit the
bathroom. The last two days, as before, the cars and
trucks and gardeners have been arriving in Los Esteros
(nearby complex) as well as in our complex and on the
road nearby and injuring and electrocuting me. The
activity is also remote controlled with a network of
beacons interconnecting all the homes around my house
and Los Esteros and fire sprinkler system and possibly
the County Education Building and sources in the sky
and buildings in the City Centre such as County Jail,
Mental (Psychiatry) Hospital Lockup system, etc.

This secret injuring and killing system of lasers and
beacons is operated 24 hours of the day by the
secret parallel government that is operating outside
all existing city, state, country laws and regulations
and the US Constitution. Church groups and criminals
are the prime operators of this system. Killers.

It takes only seconds to cause an intestinal injury
and bleeding with these lasers.

Just think about the kind of twisted animals that
wopuld do such things in cold blood - injuring
people who have done no harm to these killers or
anyone else ! While sleeping !

----------------------------------------------------

 

[R. Steve Walz]

maxfoo wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:26:31 GMT, news2020 <user121@peoplepc.com> wrote:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries
The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

It will take several days for such bleeding to heal.
It is caused by a 1/2 cm to 1 cm wide beacon or laser
burning the lower intestinal inner soft lining and also
drying up the stool.This would tear the intestinal
lining causing bleeding the next time you visit the
bathroom. The last two days, as before, the cars and
-------------------------

That isn't lasers, it's Crone's Disease!! And Schizophrenia!

-Steve
--
-Steve Walz rstevew@armory.com ftp://ftp.armory.com/pub/user/rstevew
Electronics Site!! 1000's of Files and Dirs!! With Schematics Galore!!
http://www.armory.com/~rstevew or http://www.armory.com/~rstevew/Public

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:26:31 GMT, news2020 <user121@peoplepc.com>
wrote:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

Yawn. Lasers are used for surgery because they are essentially
self-cauterizing. Cuts made by lasers generally don't bleed unless
you puncture an artery or vein. Quoting from:
http://www.lbah.com/laser.htm

"4. Minimal Surgical Bleeding
When an incision is made with a scalpel blade small blood vessels are
cut in the skin and the layer of tissue just under the skin. These
blood vessels can ooze throughout the surgery and even
postoperatively. Traditionally they are taken care of by clamping them
with hemostats, cauterizing, or holding gauze sponges on them until
they stop. All of these procedures take time, which means the surgery
takes longer and there is more post operatively swelling. The laser
beam is a highly effective coagulator of small blood vessels. Less
bleeding during surgery means less anesthetic time and faster recovery
time."

Welcome to the bleeding edge of the technology.

Next time you post your paranoid fabrications, could you make them a
bit more believeable? Your current effluvia is far too easy to
refute.


--
# Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
# 831.336.2558 voice http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
# jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us
# 831.421.6491 digital_pager jeffl@cruzio.com AE6KS

 

[DarkMatter]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:05 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
<tdnews01@att.net.invalid> Gave us:

In news:405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com,
news2020 typed:
-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again


X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net

Their reply says they need to hear complaints from several people.

Count me in.

 

[Paul Burridge]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:22:15 -0800, DarkMatter
<DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:05 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
tdnews01@att.net.invalid> Gave us:

In news:405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com,
news2020 typed:
-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again


X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net

Their reply says they need to hear complaints from several people.

Count me in.

Me too.
This bloody idiot: if he's serious about getting lower intestinal
bleeding he wants to get his arse (no pun intended) probed by a
colonoscopy ASAP. It could possibly be bowel cancer. Maybe he can get
a good deal if he sees a psychiatrist at the same time.

--

The BBC: Licensed at public expense to spread lies.

 

[Dennis]

In article <405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com>, user121@peoplepc.com says...

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------

The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

It will take several days for such bleeding to heal.
It is caused by a 1/2 cm to 1 cm wide beacon or laser
burning the lower intestinal inner soft lining and also
drying up the stool.This would tear the intestinal
lining causing bleeding the next time you visit the
bathroom. The last two days, as before, the cars and
trucks and gardeners have been arriving in Los Esteros
(nearby complex) as well as in our complex and on the
road nearby and injuring and electrocuting me. The
activity is also remote controlled with a network of
beacons interconnecting all the homes around my house
and Los Esteros and fire sprinkler system and possibly
the County Education Building and sources in the sky
and buildings in the City Centre such as County Jail,
Mental (Psychiatry) Hospital Lockup system, etc.

This secret injuring and killing system of lasers and
beacons is operated 24 hours of the day by the
secret parallel government that is operating outside
all existing city, state, country laws and regulations
and the US Constitution. Church groups and criminals
are the prime operators of this system. Killers.

It takes only seconds to cause an intestinal injury
and bleeding with these lasers.

Just think about the kind of twisted animals that
wopuld do such things in cold blood - injuring
people who have done no harm to these killers or
anyone else ! While sleeping !

----------------------------------------------------

Are you back? Please go away, and go fuck your
dog. He/she needs you more than us.


Dennis

 

[James Meyer]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:26:31 GMT, news2020 <user121@peoplepc.com> posted this:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------

The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

This secret injuring and killing system of lasers and
beacons is operated 24 hours of the day by the
secret parallel government that is operating outside
all existing city, state, country laws and regulations
and the US Constitution. Church groups and criminals
are the prime operators of this system. Killers.

If someone could send me the address of this secret parallel government,
I'd send them some money so they could step up their efforts with regards to
news2020 and hopefully put an end to him before he can post any more messages.

I bear news2020 no ill will, it just seems to me to be the humane thing
to do. Finish him off as quickly as possible and put an end to his suffering.

Jim

 

[James Meyer]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 06:05:40 GMT, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us>
posted this:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:26:31 GMT, news2020 <user121@peoplepc.com
wrote:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

Yawn. Lasers are used for surgery because they are essentially
self-cauterizing. Cuts made by lasers generally don't bleed unless
you puncture an artery or vein.

The lasers they are using on news2020 are set to a power threshold to
prevent actual cutting. It's the heat they deliver that causes deterioration of
the tissue they're focussed on. They also use multiple simultaneous beams from
different directions so that there is minimal heating of any overlying tissue,
skin and muscle in the abdomen, and maximal, sub-cauterizing, heating of the
intestinal wall its self.

The technique was perfected for CAT scans.

Jim

 

[news2020]

Puhlished threat to commit murder /
Direct threat to commit murder / conspiracy to commit murder.


James Meyer wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 03:26:31 GMT, news2020 <user121@peoplepc.com> posted this:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------

The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

This secret injuring and killing system of lasers and
beacons is operated 24 hours of the day by the
secret parallel government that is operating outside
all existing city, state, country laws and regulations
and the US Constitution. Church groups and criminals
are the prime operators of this system. Killers.


If someone could send me the address of this secret parallel government,
I'd send them some money so they could step up their efforts with regards to
news2020 and hopefully put an end to him before he can post any more messages.

I bear news2020 no ill will, it just seems to me to be the humane thing
to do. Finish him off as quickly as possible and put an end to his suffering.

Jim

 

[news2020]

Conspirator Inciting Others to Join in Blocking Communications
and Internet Access so that the Rapists and Killers can continue
their injury and atrocities that they have been doing quite
fearlessly with full support from the entire law enforcement
and government infrastructures for nearly 3 years now since my
first police report about my injuries. The police report happened
only after a prolonged period of very grave injuries that I did
not quite figure out until much later.

This kind of conspirator should be exposed for all to see and
labelled and paraded downtown and in the media.


Tom Del Rosso wrote:

In news:405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com,
news2020 typed:
-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again

X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net

Their reply says they need to hear complaints from several people.

 

[Active8]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 15:08:42 +0000, Paul Burridge wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 00:22:15 -0800, DarkMatter
DarkMatter@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 04:08:05 GMT, "Tom Del Rosso"
tdnews01@att.net.invalid> Gave us:

In news:405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com,
news2020 typed:
-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again


X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net

Their reply says they need to hear complaints from several people.

Count me in.

me too. Earthlink is slow enough without him. I told them he's
accusing the gov't... anti-sedition act...

Me too.
This bloody idiot: if he's serious about getting lower intestinal
bleeding he wants to get his arse (no pun intended) probed by a
colonoscopy ASAP. It could possibly be bowel cancer.

or alcoholism. or he's a butt bandit.

Maybe he can get
a good deal if he sees a psychiatrist at the same time.

--
Best Regards,
Mike

 

[Dennis]

In article <405E053C.7826C240@peoplepc.com>, user121@peoplepc.com says...

Conspirator Inciting Others to Join in Blocking Communications
and Internet Access so that the Rapists and Killers can continue
their injury and atrocities that they have been doing quite
fearlessly with full support from the entire law enforcement
and government infrastructures for nearly 3 years now since my
first police report about my injuries. The police report happened
only after a prolonged period of very grave injuries that I did
not quite figure out until much later.

This kind of conspirator should be exposed for all to see and
labelled and paraded downtown and in the media.

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd be

very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.

 

[Winfield Hill]

Dennis wrote...

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd
be very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.

And the wisdom behind threats of violence against
this poor, clearly-ill, fellow is...?

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

 

[Jeff Liebermann]

On Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:52:46 GMT, James Meyer <jmeyer@nowhere.com>
wrote:

The lasers they are using on news2020 are set to a power threshold to
prevent actual cutting. It's the heat they deliver that causes deterioration of
the tissue they're focussed on. They also use multiple simultaneous beams from
different directions so that there is minimal heating of any overlying tissue,
skin and muscle in the abdomen, and maximal, sub-cauterizing, heating of the
intestinal wall its self.

The technique was perfected for CAT scans.
Jim

Ummm... CAT scans use x-rays, not lasers. They also don't use
"multiple simultaneous beams" but uses a single x-ray tube that
rotates around the patient. See:
http://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/CAT%20scan
for the basics.

Methinks you might mean the multi-beam lasers used for tumor
reduction. See:
http://cis.nci.nih.gov/fact/7_8.htm
Note that different types of lasers penetrate the skin to varying
degrees. Most of the ones I've seen are single beam lasers at the end
of an endoscopic probe. Others are single beam lasers that move
around the patient but converge at the tumor. Still, they're only
useful for subdermal surgery and also tend to miss due to internal
organ movement. Is there some multi-beam laser surgery technology
that I've missed?



--
Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D Santa Cruz CA 95060
(831)421-6491 pgr (831)336-2558 home
http://www.LearnByDestroying.com AE6KS
jeffl@comix.santa-cruz.ca.us jeffl@cruzio.com

 

[Dennis]

In article <c3l9ga024iv@drn.newsguy.com>, Winfield_member@newsguy.com says...

Dennis wrote...

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd
be very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.

And the wisdom behind threats of violence against
this poor, clearly-ill, fellow is...?

Thanks,
- Win

He is not ill in the "mental illness" sense.
He is just fabricating a lot of garbage in order to induce
us to respond, in some way. He has nothing technical to add to
this group, so he adds silly bullshit. He likes the attention.
The responses etc. You Mr. Win are easily deceived. I guess somebody
could argue he is sick anyway. Maybe he is just a punk kid screwing
around. He is bailting us, or haven't you brainiacs figured that out
yet! Lets get real.

-Dennis
>

 

[Dennis]

In article <405D0BFC.26C2F6AA@peoplepc.com>, user121@peoplepc.com says...

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------





He is not ill in the "mental illness" sense.
He is just fabricating a lot of garbage in order to induce
us to respond, in some way. He has nothing technical to add to
this group, so he adds silly bullshit. He likes the attention.
The responses etc. You Mr. Win are easily deceived. I guess somebody
could argue he is sick anyway. Maybe he is just a punk kid screwing
around. He is bailting us, or haven't you brainiacs figured that out
yet! Lets get real.

-Dennis


----------------------------------------------------

 

[Winfield Hill]

Dennis wrote...

Winfield says...

Dennis wrote...

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd
be very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.

And the wisdom behind threats of violence against
this poor, clearly-ill, fellow is...?

He is not ill in the "mental illness" sense. He is just fabricating
a lot of garbage in order to induce us to respond, in some way. He
has nothing technical to add to this group, so he adds silly bullshit.
He likes the attention. The responses etc. You Mr. Win are easily
deceived. I guess somebody could argue he is sick anyway. Maybe he
is just a punk kid screwing around. He is bailting us, or haven't
? you brainiacs figured that out yet! Lets get real.

Sorry, Dennis, you are way off base. newsie has been hanging out here
on s.e.d. for a long time now, and some of us have spent considerable
time in exchanges with him. If you like it or not, we're part of his
community, and for a dozen or so of us longtimers here, that's true.

By ill, I referred to medical sickness he has that's quite serious, as
evidenced by symptoms and photos. As for mental illness, perhaps, not
being an expert, I cannot say. But given the badly deteriorated State
support systems no longer in place, neither have the professionals.

But several of the medical conditions indicated by his medical symptoms
do produce mental results similar to what we have witnessed, so you'd
have to call it a medical/mental condition rather than a mental illness.
But maybe the reality is he has both. Who can say, at a distance.

At any rate we know a lot about him, exactly where he lives, photos of
the neighborhood, etc., etc. He's an aging fellow, not a punk kid, not
a troll, not baiting us (he truly wants to communicate and talk), and he
does believe this stuff he spouts: he's not fabricating it, at least not
in the sense of an intentional lie. But sadly, neither is he responsive
to offers of help, medical advice, technical measurements, or otherwise.

My read on this is that, given that our society has decided to no longer
provide mental-health care / medical health care for the non-insured,
there will be street people, marginally-healthy, under-employed, "safe"
crazies, poor dysfunctional retired folks, etc., in evidence around us,
who previously may have been institutionalized. So given that this is
our society's decision, to keep such people in our community among us,
we should accept them and try to help out, rather than to shun them and
unrelentingly push them away. newsie is after all fairly well adjusted,
in the sense that he manages his funds, pays his rent, and keeps himself
alive without apparent help from friends. Although I must admit, he may
have a support system of relatives, etc., that he hasn't mentioned, who
play a vital role.

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

 

[Tim Auton]

Dennis <Howdy Doody@howdydoody.net> wrote:

In article <c3l9ga024iv@drn.newsguy.com>, Winfield_member@newsguy.com says...
Dennis wrote...

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd
be very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.

And the wisdom behind threats of violence against
this poor, clearly-ill, fellow is...?

He is not ill in the "mental illness" sense.

How the hell do you know? His posts certainly look like paranoid
delusions to me. No, I'm not a doctor, but I have personally seen
someone go down that road and that prompted me to learn more than the
average person about the subject.


Tim
--
Love is a travelator.

 

[news2020]

active-nut -

You nut, terrorism sounds even deadlier than sedition.
These criminals have already tortured with that reasoning for
nearly 3 years now. If there is a government around, I did not
see it during all that. It is still going on. Why are they
geting paid ? High crimes - torture, grave injury, attempted murder,
conspiracy to commit murder.

Just one crime disqualifies you from a Government job. This is an
endless crime spree encompasses tens and hundreds and thousands
of people and entire families and generations.

Nuts on the net.


news2020 wrote:

-- Lasers : Killers Cause Lower Intestinal Bleeding Again
-- It takes only seconds to cause bleeding injuries

----------------------------------------------------------

The killers operating lasers and beacons in all
the houses around, vehicles parked nearby and
driving by - hit and run - as well as sources in the
sky, are injuring causing deadly harm while I sleep.

It will take several days for such bleeding to heal.
It is caused by a 1/2 cm to 1 cm wide beacon or laser
burning the lower intestinal inner soft lining and also
drying up the stool.This would tear the intestinal
lining causing bleeding the next time you visit the
bathroom. The last two days, as before, the cars and
trucks and gardeners have been arriving in Los Esteros
(nearby complex) as well as in our complex and on the
road nearby and injuring and electrocuting me. The
activity is also remote controlled with a network of
beacons interconnecting all the homes around my house
and Los Esteros and fire sprinkler system and possibly
the County Education Building and sources in the sky
and buildings in the City Centre such as County Jail,
Mental (Psychiatry) Hospital Lockup system, etc.

This secret injuring and killing system of lasers and
beacons is operated 24 hours of the day by the
secret parallel government that is operating outside
all existing city, state, country laws and regulations
and the US Constitution. Church groups and criminals
are the prime operators of this system. Killers.

It takes only seconds to cause an intestinal injury
and bleeding with these lasers.

Just think about the kind of twisted animals that
wopuld do such things in cold blood - injuring
people who have done no harm to these killers or
anyone else ! While sleeping !

----------------------------------------------------

 

[news2020]

To: abuse@supernews.com

REPORT OF ABUSE AND LIFE THREAT FROM 'Dennis'
----------------------------------------------

Below is a clear threat of bodily injury and murder by
'Dennis' all in the open in a newsgroup. He is also responsible
for incitement of murder and conspiracy calling upon others
to help and participate in torture and injury and murder.

Kindly take appropriate action against this abuser.

This is by no means a new phenomenon. It has been going on
for over 2 1/2 years now after my first police report about
my injuries. It is still going on.



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Dennis wrote:

In article <405E053C.7826C240@peoplepc.com>, user121@peoplepc.com says...


Conspirator Inciting Others to Join in Blocking Communications
and Internet Access so that the Rapists and Killers can continue
their injury and atrocities that they have been doing quite
fearlessly with full support from the entire law enforcement
and government infrastructures for nearly 3 years now since my
first police report about my injuries. The police report happened
only after a prolonged period of very grave injuries that I did
not quite figure out until much later.

This kind of conspirator should be exposed for all to see and
labelled and paraded downtown and in the media.

There are now people who are going to find you, and teach you
a lesson. Your home address is not that hard to find, so I'd be
very careful, if I were you. You might end up with a lot
more that a few bloody stools.