Kill A Watt P4400 on sale

[William Sommerwerck]

A refridgerator in a natural gas heated/hot water/cooking home is the
#1 watt bandit. My 10 something CUF fridge all of 3 years old consumes
30% of my total usage on a normal setting. Just two of us living here
so it's easy to gauge usage otherwise. Lighting is CFL. Only other
watt magnet is the big screen which is on 6 hours a day (rear
projector) and a P4 computer on 24/7. Plus security lighting outside
in the form of 3 100 watt CFLs for 10 hours a day. This equals about a
$65/mo bill.

I live by myself, have a constantly running computer, and pay around $25 a
month, which I consider too much. I wonder if you're wasting energy and
aren't aware of it.

 

[Fleetie]

William Sommerwerck wrote:

A refridgerator in a natural gas heated/hot water/cooking home is the
#1 watt bandit. My 10 something CUF fridge all of 3 years old consumes
30% of my total usage on a normal setting. Just two of us living here
so it's easy to gauge usage otherwise. Lighting is CFL. Only other
watt magnet is the big screen which is on 6 hours a day (rear
projector) and a P4 computer on 24/7. Plus security lighting outside
in the form of 3 100 watt CFLs for 10 hours a day. This equals about a
$65/mo bill.

I live by myself, have a constantly running computer, and pay around $25 a
month, which I consider too much. I wonder if you're wasting energy and
aren't aware of it.

Jesus! I live by myself too, and pay 75 POUNDS a month! Although this
flat doesn't have gas, so all hot water is electrically heated.


Martin

 

[Meat Plow]

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 07:57:35 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net>wrote:

A refridgerator in a natural gas heated/hot water/cooking home is the
#1 watt bandit. My 10 something CUF fridge all of 3 years old consumes
30% of my total usage on a normal setting. Just two of us living here
so it's easy to gauge usage otherwise. Lighting is CFL. Only other
watt magnet is the big screen which is on 6 hours a day (rear
projector) and a P4 computer on 24/7. Plus security lighting outside
in the form of 3 100 watt CFLs for 10 hours a day. This equals about a
$65/mo bill.

I live by myself, have a constantly running computer, and pay around $25 a
month, which I consider too much. I wonder if you're wasting energy and
aren't aware of it.

Seems like a big difference. Maybe my rates are higher. My mom lives
by herself and at 81 is very frugal with everything and her bill is
about 40/mo.

Here is my current month's breakdown. I did run the air for a week or
so of hot weather in the high 80s to low 90s.

Generation Service $34.42
Transmission Service 6.53
Distribution Service 25.73 Customer
Charge 3.82

 

[William Sommerwerck]

Here is my current month's breakdown. I did run the air for a week or
so of hot weather in the high 80s to low 90s.

Generation Service $34.42
Transmission Service 6.53
Distribution Service 25.73 Customer
Charge 3.82

We don't have a "distribution charge". I pay around 10 cents/kWh.

 

[Meat Plow]

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:32:36 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net>wrote:

Here is my current month's breakdown. I did run the air for a week or
so of hot weather in the high 80s to low 90s.

Generation Service $34.42
Transmission Service 6.53
Distribution Service 25.73 Customer
Charge 3.82

We don't have a "distribution charge". I pay around 10 cents/kWh.

If I read the bill correct, the above reflects usage of 741kwh from
7/25 to 8/27. 741/70.5 = 0.1058 or 10.5 cents per kwh.

In April for instance my usage was only around 460 kwh but in July and
August weather was such that I needed some air, and dehumidifier in
the basement. I do have an attic fan that runs 14 hours a day when it
hits 80 outside. It's a whole house ventilator with maybe an 1/8 HP
motor on it. So really it just all adds up.

 

[Fleetie]

Meat Plow wrote:

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 09:32:36 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net>wrote:

Here is my current month's breakdown. I did run the air for a week or
so of hot weather in the high 80s to low 90s.
Generation Service $34.42
Transmission Service 6.53
Distribution Service 25.73 Customer
Charge 3.82
We don't have a "distribution charge". I pay around 10 cents/kWh.


If I read the bill correct, the above reflects usage of 741kwh from
7/25 to 8/27. 741/70.5 = 0.1058 or 10.5 cents per kwh.

In April for instance my usage was only around 460 kwh but in July and
August weather was such that I needed some air, and dehumidifier in
the basement. I do have an attic fan that runs 14 hours a day when it
hits 80 outside. It's a whole house ventilator with maybe an 1/8 HP
motor on it. So really it just all adds up.

How do you guys get power so cheaply?

Here's my (recent; a few days ago) analysis of exactly one year's usage
from the start of September 2008 to September 2009.

We get two rates: Night is much cheaper than day:


E-On : Electricity readings for the last 1 year exactly:

Day: Night:
---- ------
2 Sep 08 : 29170 83750
1 Sep 09 : 33049 89619
===== =====
= 3879 5869 kWH / year (365 days)
= 10.63 16.08 kWH / day
= 323 489 kWH / month
---

Current rates (pence/kWH, including VAT and 6% direct debit discount):

Night: 5.014
High day: 26.205 (first 900 units/year, i.e. the first 75 units/month)
Low day: 12.663

So, amounts in pounds per month at the various rates:

High day : 19.65 (75 units)
Low day : 31.40 (323-75=248 units)
Night : 24.52 (489 units)
-------
75.57 / month averaged over last 1 year


Martin

 

[William Sommerwerck]

In April for instance my usage was only around 460 kwh but in July and
August weather was such that I needed some air, and dehumidifier in
the basement. I do have an attic fan that runs 14 hours a day when it
hits 80 outside. It's a whole house ventilator with maybe an 1/8 HP
motor on it. So really it just all adds up.

I live in the Pacific Northwest. It rarely gets extremely hot or extremely
cold. When it does, I just tough it out for a few days.

 

[William Sommerwerck]

"CaltechPhD" <josephfeng@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote in message
news:6f6b3e33-5ef9-45ee-a5f1-dc9d7eae16e7@m7g2000prd.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 5, 7:04 pm, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
wrote:

It's possible. I attended Caltech briefly then (Fall, 1965).
I was a total shmuck then, and I apologize.

No need to apologize. Most of us were (are?) socially challenged.

I apologize for not remembering your name, but it just doesn't
ring a bell.

If you had a bad experience, you probably tried to forget it. I think
we were in the same section (does Math 1.5 ring a bell?) with Bob
Leighton as our TA for Physics 1.

I certainly remember Bob Leighton. My mother met him and hated him.

By the way, do you know James Boyk, your pianist-in-residence? He's an
acquaintance. Several years ago I refurbished a KLH Model 11 portable
phonograph for him, which was a Christmas gift for his son. If you run into
him, tell him that we attended Caltech at the same -- only I didn't
graduate. (I later graduated FSU.)

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

CaltechPhD wrote:

On Sep 5, 7:25 am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net
wrote:
I've
know William online for about ten years on another newsgroup.
Wow! I claim that I first met him about 44 years ago.

Not my fault, I was only 13 at that time! ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[CaltechPhD]

On Sep 5, 7:04 pm, "William Sommerwerck" <grizzledgee...@comcast.net>
wrote:

It's possible. I attended Caltech briefly then (Fall, 1965). I was a total
shmuck then, and I apologize.
No need to apologize. Most of us were (are?) socially challenged.

I apologize for not remembering your name, but it just doesn't ring a bell.
If you had a bad experience, you probably tried to forget it. I think

we were in the same section (does Math 1.5 ring a bell?) with Bob
Leighton as our TA for Physics 1.

 

[Meat Plow]

On Sun, 6 Sep 2009 11:14:05 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net>wrote:

In April for instance my usage was only around 460 kwh but in July and
August weather was such that I needed some air, and dehumidifier in
the basement. I do have an attic fan that runs 14 hours a day when it
hits 80 outside. It's a whole house ventilator with maybe an 1/8 HP
motor on it. So really it just all adds up.

I live in the Pacific Northwest. It rarely gets extremely hot or extremely
cold. When it does, I just tough it out for a few days.

I try to tough it out but when it hits 90 inside and 70% humidity it's
just too sticky to function.

 

[Bob Larter]

PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.

William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?

Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference between
William's selling the 'Kill A Watt' meter, and that chinese ass who is
selling shoes, other than what the product is.

The difference is that William isn't (I assume) making a profit out of
the products he's posted about, while those Chinese shitheads are. Also,
he posted about something that's actually relevant & useful to many
people in this group.

So since so many of William's friends say to 'piss off' or otherwise
bugger off and go away, so be it. I'll not critize spammers again here
in this group.

The thing is that the Chinese (etc) spammers don't actually read the
group - they just shotgun as many as possible - so there's no point
telling them to piss off anyway.



--
W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
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On Sep 9, 3:22 am, Bob Larter <bobbylar...@gmail.com> wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terr...@earthlink.net> wrote:

PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.comhas the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

FYI Fry's 9-25-09 for 7 days you can have the Kill-A-Watt for $14.99

Piss off, spammer.

  William isn't a spammer.  A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar.  You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?

Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference between
William's selling the 'Kill A Watt' meter, and that chinese ass who is
selling shoes, other than what the product is.

The difference is that William isn't (I assume) making a profit out of
the products he's posted about, while those Chinese shitheads are. Also,
he posted about something that's actually relevant & useful to many
people in this group.

So since so many of William's friends say to 'piss off' or otherwise
bugger off and go away, so be it. I'll not critize spammers again here
in this group.

The thing is that the Chinese (etc) spammers don't actually read the
group - they just shotgun as many as possible - so there's no point
telling them to piss off anyway.

--
    W
  . | ,. w ,   "Some people are alive only because
   \|/  \|/     it is illegal to kill them."    Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------