Kill A Watt P4400 on sale

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www.supermediastore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!
Piss off, spammer.
 
www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy
meter on sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and
I might buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2
or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.
And who might you be, sir? I'm a regular and (sometimes overly) visible
contributor to this group.
 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:40:20 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy
meter on sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and
I might buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2
or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.

And who might you be, sir? I'm a regular and (sometimes overly) visible
contributor to this group.
Well, I did assume someone spoofed your ID, but since you admit it...
Just why do you feel the need to spam that site, is it yours for
example?

Yes, you do contribute usefully but spam is never, ever either a
contribution or desirable.

I think you owe everyone an apology for the spam, but I doubt you are
going to do that! <g>
 
On 9/4/2009 12:38 PM PeterD spake thus:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:40:20 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy
meter on sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and
I might buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2
or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.

And who might you be, sir? I'm a regular and (sometimes overly)
visible contributor to this group.

Well, I did assume someone spoofed your ID, but since you admit it...
Just why do you feel the need to spam that site, is it yours for
example?
You need to learn the difference between spam and useful information.
Not all commercial links posted here are "spam". Think about it.

Apparently you're one of the crowd who defines "trolling" as "anything I
don't like".


--
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PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.

William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
On Sep 4, 12:38 pm, PeterD <pet...@hipson.net> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:40:20 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"

grizzledgee...@comcast.net> wrote:
www.superspammingstore.comhas the "Kill A Watt" power/energy
meter on sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have
two, and
I might buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate
within 2
or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.

And who might you be, sir? I'm a regular and (sometimes overly)
visible
contributor to this group.

Well, I did assume someone spoofed your ID, but since you admit
it...
Just why do you feel the need to spam that site, is it yours for
example?

Yes, you do contribute usefully but spam is never, ever either a
contribution or desirable.

I think you owe everyone an apology for the spam, but I doubt you
are
going to do that! <g

And he shouldn't apologize as it wasn't spam. He's passing along
useful information and not making money on it. You have a strange idea
what spam is. Methinks you're one of those 'I don't like it so you
shouldn't do it' guys.

I just got my Kill-a-Watt 3 days ago from Newegg for $19.99, free
shipping but CA tax. I thought I got the best deal but I was only
close.

 
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 07:40:20 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
<grizzledgeezer@comcast.net>wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy
meter on sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and
I might buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2
or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!

Piss off, spammer.

And who might you be, sir? I'm a regular and (sometimes overly) visible
contributor to this group.
Yes, piss off spammer.
 
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net>wrote:

PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.


William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?
Piss off spammer
 
Meat Plow wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net>wrote:


PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.


William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?

Piss off spammer

Yawn. Why don't you go back to alt.usenet.kooks?


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.


William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?
Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference between
William's selling the 'Kill A Watt' meter, and that chinese ass who is
selling shoes, other than what the product is.

It appears that if you are a 'regular contributor' then to spam your
products/web site is acceptable.

Let's be real: any one of us would have no problems finding the
product if we wanted it, it was unnecessary to spam it.

So since so many of William's friends say to 'piss off' or otherwise
bugger off and go away, so be it. I'll not critize spammers again here
in this group.

As to 'techs using the product' fine. I use a clamp-on amp meter,
works well for my needs.
 
Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference
between William's selling the "Kill A Watt" meter, and that Chinese
ass who is selling shoes, other than what the product is.
Firstly, this post was made to only two groups, this one and
rec.antiques.radio+phono. That hardly counts as spam (in the sense of it
being an undifferentiated spew).

Secondly, I'm not selling the product, not do I get a cut. I'm simply
letting people know it's available at an attractive price.

Thirdly, it's possible some people here have never heard of the Kill A Watt.

Fourthly, these people are not defending me as my "friends", but because
they understand the difference between spam, and someone telling the group
about a bargain.

Fifthly, the Kill A Watt does things a clamp-on-meter can't do.

I can't think of a Sixthly or Seventhly, so I have to stop here.
 
Whoops.

I forgot to mention that you need a coupon code to get this price. It's...

94EL15P
 
On Sat, 05 Sep 2009 09:23:25 -0400, PeterD <peter2@hipson.net>wrote:

On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.


William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?

Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference between
William's selling the 'Kill A Watt' meter, and that chinese ass who is
selling shoes, other than what the product is.

It appears that if you are a 'regular contributor' then to spam your
products/web site is acceptable.

Let's be real: any one of us would have no problems finding the
product if we wanted it, it was unnecessary to spam it.

So since so many of William's friends say to 'piss off' or otherwise
bugger off and go away, so be it. I'll not critize spammers again here
in this group.

As to 'techs using the product' fine. I use a clamp-on amp meter,
works well for my needs.
Piss off spammer
 
PeterD wrote:
On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:56:07 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


PeterD wrote:

On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 05:51:31 -0700, "William Sommerwerck"
grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:

www.superspammingstore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale for
less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy another.
Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Rush right out in a buying frenzy!


Piss off, spammer.


William isn't a spammer. A lot of techs use that product, or
something similar. You never seem to contribute to this newsgroup, so
why don't you 'piss off'?

Fine... So now spamming is acceptable. There is NO difference between
William's selling the 'Kill A Watt' meter, and that chinese ass who is
selling shoes, other than what the product is.

He isn't selling anything. He doesn't own a business. He is an
electrical engineer who specialized in technical writing.


It appears that if you are a 'regular contributor' then to spam your
products/web site is acceptable.

It appears that you have very low reading comprehension. Some places
want over $50 for the item. He found a good deal, and shared it. I've
know William online for about ten years on another newsgroup. We've had
some disagreements, but over all, he's a good guy. He even rallied some
of the regulars in that group to help me when the VA refused some
medical care I needed, to survive.


Let's be real: any one of us would have no problems finding the
product if we wanted it, it was unnecessary to spam it.

Lets get real: You don't know what you are talking about.


So since so many of William's friends say to 'piss off' or otherwise
bugger off and go away, so be it. I'll not critize spammers again here
in this group.

Spam is selling your goods, not telling others you found a good deal.
You, on the other hand are quickly becoming a troll. I haven't seen any
of William's friends telling him to piss off. Just the groups usual
malcontents with another wild hair up their ass.


As to 'techs using the product' fine. I use a clamp-on amp meter,
works well for my needs.

A clamp on ammeter is fine for some uses. It doesn't log power
consumption. It is a tool intended for electricians, and most do not
give accurate readings on anything other than a pure resistive load.
Reading the actual load of a switch mode power supply requires a good
RMS converter in the meter. The same as the ones mate for the new
electronic watt hour meters. Its a poor worker who doesn't understand
his tools, yet defends bad work.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
In article <h7r2ib$nr$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
www.supermediastore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale
for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy
another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.
Is this a clip on type? If so it might be 3% accurate at maximum load, but
if it's like UK ones painfully poor at below say 3 kW.

--
*He who laughs last, thinks slowest.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:
In article <h7r2ib$nr$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
www.supermediastore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on sale
for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might buy
another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Is this a clip on type? If so it might be 3% accurate at maximum load, but
if it's like UK ones painfully poor at below say 3 kW.

It is an inline device:
<http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html>

Here is the P4400 manual:
<http://www.p3international.com/manuals/p4400_manual.pdf>


This is the newer model:
http://www.p3international.com/products/p4460.html

Here is the P4460 manual:
http://www.p3international.com/manuals/p4460_manual.pdf


The third version is in an eight outlet power strip:
<http://www.p3international.com/products/consumer/p4320.html>

Here is the P4320 manual:
<http://www.p3international.com/manuals/p4320_manual.pdf>

--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!
 
In article <o-KdnevIychQBj_XnZ2dnUVZ_r-dnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article <h7r2ib$nr$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
www.supermediastore.com has the "Kill A Watt" power/energy meter on
sale for less than $19, shipping included. I have two, and I might
buy another. Consumer Reports says it's accurate within 2 or 3%.

Is this a clip on type? If so it might be 3% accurate at maximum load,
but if it's like UK ones painfully poor at below say 3 kW.

It is an inline device:
http://www.p3international.com/products/special/P4400/P4400-CE.html
Ah - right. Those can be fine, accuracy wise. But of very limited use.
After all it's not difficult to work out what most appliances cost to run.
The sort which gives a whole house reading are a good idea - but sadly
inaccurate due to clip on design.

Not a brilliant price either - I only paid 10 gbp for one.

--
*Gargling is a good way to see if your throat leaks.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 
Those can be fine, accuracy-wise. But of very limited use. After
all, it's not difficult to work out what most appliances cost to run.
When I get around to it, I'm going to put it on my fridge for a few days. I
want to see exactly how many kWh it draws over a week or so. You can't do
that with a clip-on, because refrigerators run intermittently.
 
In article <h7u9lj$8i7$1@news.eternal-september.org>,
William Sommerwerck <grizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote:
Those can be fine, accuracy-wise. But of very limited use. After
all, it's not difficult to work out what most appliances cost to run.

When I get around to it, I'm going to put it on my fridge for a few
days. I want to see exactly how many kWh it draws over a week or so. You
can't do that with a clip-on, because refrigerators run intermittently.
That's true - but what action will you take? You can hardly switch it off
to save energy. Unlike heating and aircon. If it's old a new one will
almost certainly be more efficient. But may cost more than it saves.

--
*It sounds like English, but I can't understand a word you're saying.

Dave Plowman dave@davenoise.co.uk London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.
 

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