Jihad needs scientists

[John Fields]

On 06 Oct 2006 03:11:24 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@aon.at>
wrote:

We have a phrase here, it goes, "when two are struggling laughs the
third".

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I like that!


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

In article <4526343A.24C8CC03@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

ISTR that Bin Laden's next goal is to kill 3 million people

Cite ?

I don't have one since I can't access the web.

In which case I'll have to say I think it's pure BS.

Graham

 

[T Wake]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 20:28:26 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 4 Oct 2006 19:49:49 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Sometimes a crude allegory serves admirably in making a point
quickly.


On both sides of the debate....

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Yes, but often the point made by the side with the crude allegory
overshadows the implicit admonition against political incorrectness
enjoyed, silently, by the other side.

Fair one and (IMHO) neither are really valid debating styles. If people
want
to throw insults at each other, great. I have no problem with that.

That is, if that's what you had in mind.

I am not sure what I had in mind.

If it isn't, and both sides revert to crude allegory, then the
psycholgy underlying the symbology can get very interesting.

Yes, although it does imply that both sides of the debate are somewhat
fixated with inserting things up their own backsides..........

Interesting symbology but, based on the mental picture I have of the
"average" person on USENET, not pleasant....

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LOL, nor was it intended to be!

What I was alluding to was that domination might not seem to be so
bad if it occurs a little at a time.

Anyway, I think that's what I was alluding to. Seems like that was
a long time ago and I'm starting to lose track...

USENET "debates" are entertaining though.

 

[T Wake]

<lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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In article
kurtullman-0481F2.19314905102006@customer-201-125-217-207.uninet.net.mx>,
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <452590E2.F828860@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Lobbing missiles

The targeting was quite precise actually.

Yep. He hit that aspirin factory dead on. Managed to put down the
chimney of the Chinese Embassy during Kosovo, too, Rip roaring accuracy.


in the general direction (with a forewarning to
Pakistan) is not an "attempt to get OBL", just an attempt to show
that
"something is being done".

It's still 100% more than GWB ever did.

Yep GWB never did get around to clearing out the Taliban and

Uh, the Taliban are still there and actually control more of Afghanistan
than
the "government."


Yes, but that wasn't true in 2003. The reason is that we threw so much of
our ability into Iraq, that nobody has been left to keep things in order
in Afghanistan. Makes the no-reason war against Iraq all the more
reprehensible.

Sadly, yes. The invasion of Iraq was very, very badly timed. Since then,
Afghanistan has increased poppy production and the Taliban are stronger and
stronger.

 

[John Fields]

On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 04:42:27 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

It's only when Americans get killed you get mad.

You're quite happy for the USN to kill innocent foreigners by the planeload and it
doesn't even 'register on your radar' does it ?

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Oh, the righteous indignation...

The pilot of the airplane was told to change his course because he
was an apparent threat to one of our assets and its crew. He chose
not to. Kaboom. End of story.



--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[T Wake]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 Oct 06 11:26:29 GMT, jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Our freedoms are under threat as a result of American stupidity.

Now I understand you. It is not Bin Laden's fault that he
is going to kill a lot of people. It's the Americans' fault
that caused Islamic extremists to want to destroy Western
civilization.

That's actually true. "American" culture, which is actually world
culture, is the thing they fear will seduce their sons and liberate
their daughters. As it must.

Sadly, lots of this "world culture" is being dismantled to prevent the
"enemy" destroying it. Still can't get it to make sense to me.

 

[T Wake]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message

They banned the hell out of lawn darts - for sure.


Phew. Good job. Might have some one's eye out....


You think that is worse that the kids that died from them?


http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-04,GGLD:en&q=lawn+darts+death

I don't know. I haven't been blinded or killed. What is your point?

 

[T Wake]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:11:01 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote

I see terrorist attack doesn't make the top twenty then That war
on
tobacco really needs to get started soon.

It has, thankfully. Most major cities in the US ban tobacco use in
public
places, and several states are considering state-wide bans. Still
perfectly
legal at home and in most places outdoors, but at least I can eat dinner
in
a restaurant without smoke making me physically ill.

I can barely wait for the UK law banning smoking in public places to come
into
effect. It'll be so much nicer.

---
The last time my wife came back from the UK she said she couldn't
believe how much you people smoke. How much do you all smoke?

Not at all. I don't. No one in my family does and no one I work with does.

How much do Americans smoke?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

T Wake wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

I don't have to. Your country can intercept other nations to gather
foreign
intelligence.


Unless you are a terrorist, what are you worried about?


Interesting argument.

I work in corporate security and often work for governmental
organisations,
will you please surrender to me all your bank records so I can check what
transactions take place. I also want you to record your movements and
actions at all times.

I am sure, that as you are not a terrorist, you will have no qualms
against
this.

I await the data.


It wouldn't do you any good. I am on a small VA pension that barely
pays the bills. Anyway, I don't have a bank account.


I think you are lying until you can prove otherwise. That notwithstanding,
you've assumed I want your money - I don't, I want to reassure myself you
are not a terrorist.

You also need to let me know all your movements and everyone you speak to.

I am a disabled veteran, on a VA pension. think for yourself.

I don't have a bank account, I have a Credit Union account, which you
didn't ask about. The movement already has that information, and you as
a foreigner have no right to ask.

Movements? Well, I haven't had one yet today, but thanks for asking.
I'll send it to you for your investigation if you need it.

If you want to know who I talk to, hire a P.I. I don't feel like
asking everyone I have to talk to their names, because it isn't my
business to ask. Even if I did, they have no reason to tell me. You're
the security expert so it should be really easy for you to investigate
me.

BTW, don't bother with an IP lookup, it shows the wrong city.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[T Wake]

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

I can think about space aliens invading and making everyone die their
hair
red. Doesn't mean it is going to happen.

You can deal with things you _think_ will happen or deal with things
which
are happening.

I know which makes more sense to me.


Die their hair red? When hair dies, its white, or light gray. You
need a new foil beanie, you're obsessing about malevolent aliens again.

Oh well done on the spelling rant. It gave the rest of your post much needed
credibility. Your appeal to ridicule, combined with shameless snipping of
the context, is masterful.

I also notice the "Doesn't mean it is going to happen." went over your head.
That means (wait for it) I... don't... think.... it.... will.... happen...

Do you think you can manage that concept?

You are the one claiming that things you can think of happening need to be
prevented. That is gibberish.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

T Wake wrote:

lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

I don't have to. Your country can intercept other nations to gather
foreign
intelligence.


Unless you are a terrorist, what are you worried about?


Interesting argument.

And completely false.

Sadly yes. It is the worst fear-mongering argument ever. (Worst as in "most
wrong" )

It's tantamount to "If you aren't a criminal, then why are you worried
about me searching your basement." The authors of the Constitution knew
that, at some point, some demagog would use this argument to violate
somebody's rights, so they put it in the constitution that, whether you're
a criminal/terrorist or not, you don't have to worry about somebody
invading your house to have a look around, just because they don't like
you.


I work in corporate security and often work for governmental
organisations, will you please surrender to me all your bank records so I
can check what transactions take place. I also want you to record your
movements and actions at all times.

I am sure, that as you are not a terrorist, you will have no qualms
against this.

I await the data.

Well put. I wouldn't hold your breath.


I wont.... It must mean he is a terrorist though.

Typing with one hand again? Pervert!


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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But Democrats ARE dirtbags. Try and deny that ;-)

Republicans are greedy reactionaries who will sell out to anyone at any time
for any amount.

Democrats are caring progressives who will sell out to the best of the
carpetbaggers when they must in order to compete with the Republicans.

Republicans are strictly for the greedy.

Democrats are for the needy.

That's not a real competition. It's no wonder all of the racists like
(Makaka) Allen and David Duke are always Republicans.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
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It's still 100% more than GWB ever did.

Yep GWB never did get around to clearing out the Taliban and

Uh, the Taliban are still there and actually control more of Afghanistan
than
the "government."

That's because Bush cut and ran from Afghanistan instead of staying the
course.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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Here's how it works:

A Canadian kills an American in Canada, so he's broken Canadian law
as well as US law.

Since the offense was committed in Canada the Canadian authorities
get first crack at him. The US will file for extradition, and when
Canada gets done with him, if the extradition treaty with the US
allows him to be extradited, then more than likely he will be.

Wrong.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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No, but I do think that the inhabitants of the US are the most gullible
people on earth. Odd, because with so much deceptive advertising and
often
outright lying in advertising you'd think they would be immune to BS.

Apparently ppl actually fall in love with the BS !

If that were true you could probably be our next president!

Considering that Bush made it anything is possible.

 

[Eeyore]

Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article <4525DA2C.7CFA4E5E@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

So, you don't carry anything else?...........
.........An insurance card so you don't die while waiting for
the hospital to make sure they will be paid for their services?

You really don't know much about the UK do you ?

Medical services are free.

You pay for them through taxes (among other ways). They ain't free no
matter what the politicians tell you.

There ar no medical bills to worry about.

Graham

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

On 06 Oct 2006 03:11:24 GMT, "Daniel Mandic" <daniel_mandic@aon.at
wrote:

We have a phrase here, it goes, "when two are struggling laughs the
third".

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I like that!

Fearless John has the Demented Donkey pinned to the mat and in a
headlock! The newsgroup goes wild! ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Eeyore]

Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article <452635E5.6EA696F2@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

A ridiculous idea. We won the Battle of Britain and Germany knew it couldn't
invade without air superiority.

Graham

I never have been able to figure out why this is such a popular dick-
measuring area.

Ask Fields.

The fact is that you couldn't have done it without us
and we couldn't have done it without you.

We won the Battle of Britain with no American help.

Graham

 

[T Wake]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Oct 2006 22:50:02 +0100, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote:


"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in
message
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's
highways?
That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every
person in the country than is terrorism.

3000 people died at the WTC. Three orders of magnitude from that is 3
million. We kill about 40K people a year in car accidents.


3000 people (not all of whom were US citizens) have been killed by Islamic
terrorist attacks on the Mainland US in (shall we say 80 years). How many
have died in car accidents in that time?

That said, you are nitpicking in the same manner. More than ten times as
many people die every year as died as a result of the 11 Sep 01 attack.
That
is TEN attacks of that scale (and that was a large scale attack by
anyone's
standards) every single year. Year in, year out and accepted as a normal
risk in life.

Amazing really.

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I really don't think that's fair.

Possibly true.

In the case of 9/11, a premeditated series of events was set into
play which killed thousands of people, never mind the monetary loss.

In the case of traffic deaths, those are accidents. They result in
lives lost numbering in the tens of thousands annually, but they're
still "just" accidents.

Yes, however there are measures which can be put in place that have been
demonstrated to reduce the risk of death or serious injury in the event of
an accident. These cost money, but accidental death and injury costs money
as well - granted a different part of society has to bear that bill.

Traffic accidents aside, how many people get murdered each year? How many
are raped? How many die from preventable disease?

Being frightened of terrorism is similar to fear of flying. Plane crashes
are very, very rare but when one happens it kills lots of people. Getting
fixated on that as the "big risk" takes the chance that people will be
blinded to the real dangers they face day in, day out.

 

[T Wake]

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 23:11:58 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 15:03:17 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Which one would that be, the dangers of driving on the nation's
highways?
That's at least 3 orders of magnitude greater of a real threat to every
person in the country than is terrorism.

3000 people died at the WTC

And you still haven't got over it.

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And a lot of Jews haven't gotten over Auschwitz either. Is that a
bad thing?

Proportionality issues aside, yes.