Jihad needs scientists

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:10:38 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:03:12 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
JoeBloe wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore Gave us:

US aid is frequently accompanied by compulsory 'trade concessions' that favour the
USA.

Funny, I don't recall us ever asking Russia for anything for the
millions of tons of wheat we have sent them over the last several
decades.

Why does Russia need 'aid' ? Why is it going there. Can't they pay for it?

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Why don't you do your own legwork?

I'm asking you.

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No, you were asking Joe Bloe, but all you were looking for was a
platform for your ingenuous bullshit.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message

Yet another American dismisses non-American thing thinking as crap.

Crap thinking knows no borders.

Actually the US border does delineate a lot of it. Americans as a group are
almost totally focussed inwards - but are not at all introspective.

Until we're attacked. Then we start to pay attention outside
the borders.

How about the other nations you attack?

If you didn't venture off your continent you wouldn't cause any trouble.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

You have overlooked that the extremists' methods are approved
by their religion.

No they aren't. You're ignorant to think so.

Rewards are booty if living and some
male nonsense if killed while committing this violence.

Utter rubbish.

Oh, my. You do have a very efficient reality filter.

It's rubbish based on a comic book version of Islam.

Graham

 

[Keith]

In article <45253AD1.1CA92D09@hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
JoeBloe wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> Gave us:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
JoeBloe <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

Essentially a stupid jerk is all he amounts to.

Let him be one. He is merely doing the popular action in
blaming the US to assuage his fear.

I have no fear of these issues. It's the damn Americans who are afraid
you clot !

America hating blind bastard. That's all you are, ass, and why does
it smell like unkempt livestock in here?

It's what Bush has done to America that's horrible. It's brought the very
worst out in eveyone there. It was fine under Clinton.

No. It was not fine at all.

It looked a heck of a lot better to me and least he was an intelligent and
articulate man, something that could never be said of Bush.

It looked good to you because you are so blind that you will not
see.

--
Keith

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:14:58 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message

Actually no. They fight against those claiming to have legal jurisdiction
in the area. Also there is no requirement that it use terror methods either.

This is pedantry.

Not to me. It's a subtle but precise distinction.

in?sur?gent? [in-sur-juhnt] – noun
1. a person who rises in forcible opposition to lawful authority, esp. a person
who engages in armed resistance to a government or to the execution of its laws;
rebel.

ter?ror?ism? [ter-uh-riz-uhm] –noun
1. the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, esp. for political
purposes.
2. the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3. a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.

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Now go look up pedant.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

You can't accept that Islam isn't a threat to your lifestyle ?

Not only is it a threat, but it has already begun to
alter my lifestyle. My goal is to ensure that it
alter 100% of my lifestyle, if I'm allowed to exist.

Tell me more about this threat you perceive.

What exactly is it that you're afraid of ?

Graham

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:17:19 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

JoeBloe wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:33:41 +0100, Eeyore Gave us:

I said I have a soft spot for readheads. Is there anything else you'd like to
introduce ?

So one downloads redheads from the binary porn groups. One does NOT
get into the groups and start chatting, dumbass.

Tell me about this chatting.

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Slobber, slobber, drool, drool.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Sure. That's local politics and wonderful to use as smoke and
mirrors to distract your attention from the real threats.

/BAH

Local? I guess you don't keep up with the news.


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
lparker@emory.edu (Lloyd Parker) wrote:

Keith Olbermann had a good commentary a week or two ago about Bush calling
a
criticism "unacceptable."

Which criticism was unacceptable?

Watch this.

I can't. I'm not going to the library for this one.

Why do you need to go to the library ?

Graham

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The jury is still out on that one. Its a hung jury. I hanged them
myself. ;-)

Hang 'em lower.

If they were any lower the gators would get them! ;-)


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Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:35:41 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Fields wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:09:50 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 15:21:12 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Fields wrote:

"It" being radical Islam, the goal, in my opinion, would be to
convert everyone to Islam and have them be subject to control by
Muslim jurists, the goal being total world domination by Islam.

Refusal to convert would result in death.

There is no entity called 'radical Islam'.

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Just like there's no entity called 'white supremacists'.
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Who exactly do you mean ?

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The members of Islam who would have no qualms about relieving you of
your head if you refused to convert.

Let me make this clearer.

Who *exactly* do you mean ?

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What, you want _names_?

That would be a start. Something more coherent than 'radical islam' for
example.

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Too bad a simple concept is so hard for you to grasp when it's other
than American.

For example, I'm sure you'd have no problem with radical white
American supremacists. well, understanding the concept, that is.
I'm sure you'd have a very _big_ problem with them otherwise.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Keith]

In article <eg335h$5l0$10@leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@emory.edu
says...

In article <eg2od9$8qk_004@s829.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
In article <VAVUg.13310$7I1.3298@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:452415BE.DB0DBC1E@hotmail.com...


Keith wrote:

rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...

And you think you can defeat 'radical Islam' with bombs and bullets ?

I know there is no choice. Perhaps you want to submit?

There is no need to 'submit'

You're living in a perversely stupid fantasy paranoid world.

It comes from the constant bombardment by Bush's fear-mongering--it's his
way of keeping power over people.

I think you should start to listen to Bush instead of listening
to other people supposedly repeating what Bush said. I would
suggest you start with his January, 2006 TV speech.

People start to lose perspective on what
is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic.

People can also lose perspective if they assume that Bush
is always wrong

So what has he been right about?

and is the cause of all ills which is the
only thing you hear from his political opposition.

This causes a lot of people to overlook the fact that these
same politicians do not intend to deal with the threat
to the nation.


Bush has increased the threat. His own NIE says so.

You're in a fantasy land. ONE SENTENCE of the NIE report was
leaked by the Democrats to try to discredit Bush. The four pages
around that one sentence, later released, say exactly the opposite.
Please get your "news" from someone other than Franken.

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Keith

 

[Keith]

In article <eg327g$5l0$3@leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@emory.edu
says...

In article <MPG.1f8dd5b29aa6ac49989d7a@News.Individual.NET>,
Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
In article <eg0vov$s36$2@leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@emory.edu
says...
In article <MPG.1f8db882374b5dc7989d6c@News.Individual.NET>,
Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
In article <eg0k2p$e61$1@leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@emory.edu
says...
In article <MPG.1f8d91f2b6b5c0e8989d5f@News.Individual.NET>,
Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:
In article <efugkv$4up$3@leto.cc.emory.edu>, lparker@emory.edu
says...
In article <nrc5i2tq8jr4k99aqofmbbesm7em13ktok@4ax.com>,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:28:11 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:


"Lloyd Parker" <lparker@emory.edu> wrote in message
news:eftptn$c8p$2@leto.cc.emory.edu...

Tell me how many times the Bill of Rights says "people" and how
many
times
it
says "citizens."

SCOTUS has said that even visitors have the rights of citizens when
it
come
to legal processes. After all, you expect their homeland laws to
apply
in
the US would you?



Correct. But they also realize that the rights apply only when those
people are physically in the USA. Which is why some bad guys are
held
elsewhere.

John


Well, Bush thought Gitmo qualified as "elsewhere" but the USSC said
no.
Then
he held people in Europe, which is raising a stink there. It might
keep
some
prospective EU members out even.

Actually, no it didn't. It said only that Congress had some say in
the matter.

No, Bush claimed the detainees could not sue in US courts and the case
should
be dismissed. The USSC said they could, and heard the case. Not
talking
about the way of trying them; talking about the right to sue.

No, it said that the Bush plan hadn't been authorized by congress,
but that they were free to do so.

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Keith

No, Bush claimed the court didn't even have the right to hear the case
because they were held outside the US, at Gitmo. The USSC obviously
disagreed, as they heard the case.

They heard the case but the decision was that his plan couldn't go
forward without congressional approval. Pay attention.


The military commissions part. Bush tried to claim Gitmo was outside the
federal courts' jurisdiction. The courts all rejected that.

You're repeating yourself. The fact is that they ruled that Bush
could do whatever Congress allowed him to do, but that the
framework had to be set in law.

BTW, the SCotUS is not superior to any other branch, or at least is
not supposed to be. They've been told before "with what army are
you going to enforce your decision".


Oh great, the stupid response.

Nope, history. Tr reality some time. It's quite interesting.

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Keith

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

Eeyore (a.k.a. the stuffed donkey) can. He's a two-faced Europeon.

Do no dismiss this. It's going to be a serious problem because
Europe is going to expect the US to deal with the big mess
that will be made by these extremists.

No. It's the USA that's making the big mess ( through sheer ignorance and
stupidity ). In fact the mess is getting bigger as we speak.

In their zeal to prove
that Bush is bad, people who think this way will also assist
in making a mess for the sake of revenge.

You're talking drivel.

Graham

 

[Keith]

In article <45242A5B.18AFA6B9@hotmail.com>,
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...

Keith wrote:

@newsreader01.highway.telekom.at>, daniel_mandic@aon.at says...
Keith wrote:

You are a two-faced bastard. That fact is well established by your
posts.

You would like to say, a Neanderthaler descendant is a two-faced
bastard.

Keep Care...

Nope, it's worth nothing if you keep it.

They might act two sided but they think once. Thousand times better
than any ...[putyourself here]... (Ape?... Bush)))

You might care to consider what that might do for your credibility.

You might want to consider what you do for your country's
credibility.

I guess Eyore is English. My dear they are also dangerous, but they
^^^^^ Eeyore ,

have Class, at least. Getting better and better, indeed. USA thumps
^^^^^ One's class isn't a good measure of one's worth

from one desaster to the next ****
^^^^^^^^ really?

But yes, the world is full of "desasters" underway and waiting in
the wings. Going from one "desaster" to the next is a better
strategy than ignoring "desasters", head in posterior.

Now let's see you write that in German and we'll criticise *your* spelling
and grammar shall we ?
^

Nope, but I bet I can at least cut-n-paste in German. At least I
know how to punctuate.

--
Keith

 

[Eeyore]

jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

Criticizing Bush for his lack of thought is really criticizing Bush.

Criticizing Bush for his 'thoughts' is really criticizing Cheney.

All this rhetoric is a very nice way to ignore the existence
of a national threat.

There is no serious national threat ! It's in your imagination. You're been
cleverly programmed to believe in this phoney 'bogeyman'.

Who is actually going to come and kill you in your bed do you think ?

Graham

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:42:13 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

JoeBloe wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:53:35 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

Facts you are unaware of?

Other national: "I feel bad so I'll talk to my friends"

American: "I feel bad so I'll murder some innocent people"

You're an idiot. Euro nations were slaughtering thousands long
before we ever did.

Most Americans are Europeans.

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No, most Americans have ascended from European roots.

No Americans are Europeans except the ones that hold dual
citizenship in the US and also in some European state.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:43:46 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:

Until such time as Muslims exist in sufficient numbers the point is utterly moot.

A billion, give or take.

A billion a continent or 2 away is no threat even assuming they were a *threat* in the first place.

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It's probably a _very_ good thing that you're not military and
writing policy.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 01:29:33 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:B6CUg.49796$E67.42601@clgrps13...

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:mbq5i29hg2qgun7p1rm5fpbdb6fr31ogvs@4ax.com...

Where did the current terrorism financing and materials come
from?

From the USA (oil). Unlike most every other conflict, the US is paying for
both sides in this one.

Much more directly, the US funded and equipped ObL in his struggles against
the Soviets in Afghanistan. The US funded and equipped Saddam Hussein when
we were having a little set-to against the Iranians in the 70s. Funny, both
seemed like such good ideas at the time....

What conclusion do you take from these facts?

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Keep your dick in your pants?


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[John Fields]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 02:31:37 GMT, <lucasea@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:8ft5i211dol6qj0uqbuo75l7bsr01uf60v@4ax.com...

and we're not here to
appease a bunch of short-sighted cowards like you (you, Graham, not
the UK) who want to maintain the status quo by taking that radical
Islamic dick up your ass, as long as it goes in slowly.

Well, as long as we are sticking to reasonable conversation to show how
the
other person's view is wrong...

Sometimes a crude allegory serves admirably in making a point
quickly.

Wrong. It serves absolutely no purpose but to make you feel like a Big Man,

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How would you know?
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and instantly knocks 50 points off your IQ to the outside observer.

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Oh, well, 150 isn't too bad to be left with...


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John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer