Jihad needs scientists

John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:58:20 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:


"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
news:lhn7i21h44h9s303rg8ru3q30g72nikg10@4ax.com...

LOL, you think that because you're in the dark as to what's going on
behind closed doors that nothing's being done? That's gotta be
pretty close to penultimate arrogance.

When you see that half of the workers are tearing down the outhouse faster
than the other half are building it then it is a reasonable conclusion that
organization was not a high priority.

---
What was being talked about was strategies which are being
formulated, in secret, to deal with terrorism.

What are you talking about?

He was hiding in the pit, dodging the other turds?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
T Wake wrote:
When we all have to carry ID cards I will know the "war" is indeed over.

You don't have a driver's license?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
T Wake wrote:
Do Americans have a word for Bullying?

Yes, do you have one for yellow bellied cowards?


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
John Larkin wrote:
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:43:48 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I find the humour too juvenile for my taste. It's like finding farts funny
and nothing else.

More likely you find it juvenile because you don't get the twists;
some of Brooks' stuff is fairly subtle. But there are a lot of
Americanisms and Jewish humor and Black (as in African, not as in
noire) humor you may not get.

What humor meets your standards?

Not much actually. I find much of it pretty banale. I'm not sure you'd know the
stuff either. Did you ever see Fawlty Towers ( John Cleese ) for example ? At
least there's a decent chance of that.

I didn't like FT;

Well it is very British.


it was stupid situation/embarassment comedy like "I
Love Lucy"

In which case it didn't 'translate' well over your side of the pond.


, nowhere near Monte Python level. Wodehouse is my favorite
comedic writer... I laugh out loud when I read his stuff.

I find that dull.


You should laugh more... it might cheer you up.

Don't worry. I laugh a bit. There's not a heck of a lot to laugh about these days
though ( see thread ).


Beg to differ. The world is wonderful, and with a bit of conscious
effort one can learn to appreciate it. A rational creature could do no
less.

John

A day without a good laugh is a day not worth living. My sense of
humor is the only thing that kept me going through the worst two years
of my life, while laying in bed staring at the ceiling and too sick to
give a damn about almost anything.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida
 
YD wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:01:56 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:53:57 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:37:41 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:

Sheeesh! Do a Google-groups search on Eeyore/Graham... he's a
depraved poster to porn groups, so he's probably in a cell, posting
from the prison library ;-)

...Jim Thompson
PPOSTFU

- YD.

Several lurkers here have done the same Google-group search and
verified it. So do it yourself. ESAD ;-)

...Jim Thompson

So you don't in fact have anything except for what you fantasize in
your twisted mind.

- YD.
Why do you think I've asked him to post it here ? ;~)


Graham
 
John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
Gordon <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

Unless you assume some really bad things about his motives that is.

9/11 was Bush's failure.

How long had Bush been in office when 9/11 occurred? Who was in
office the 8 years before that?

He was in office for just about 8 months adn for just about 8 months, he
had the Clinton admins advice for going after OBL and ignored it. Clinton
tried to get OBL and failed Bush did not try.

How many times has Clinton pointed and wagged his finger at the media?

(1) "I did not have sex with that woman."

(2) "I _tried_ to get OBL...", just recently interviewed by Chris
Wallace.

Sounds like the sign of the liar to me ;-)

...Jim Thompson

That's because you're a prick.

And anyway many American kids today think they're being chaste as long as they
don't have vaginal sex. You ppl are truly weird.

Graham

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408249&in_page_id=1770

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408249&in_page_id=1770

Are you a ten-percent-er?

John
Why don't you say exactly what you mean ?

Graham
 
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Keith wrote:
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...

And you think you can defeat 'radical Islam' with bombs and bullets ?

I know there is no choice. Perhaps you want to submit?

There is no need to 'submit'

You're living in a perversely stupid fantasy paranoid world.

It comes from the constant bombardment by Bush's fear-mongering--it's his
way of keeping power over people. People start to lose perspective on
what is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic.

Have you seen this ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm

No, I hadn't. Interesting thesis. I do hope PBS or BBCAmerica picks up the
program, I'd like to see it.

Eric Lucas
It's available online.

And would you believe I didn't bookmark it ! Sorry.

Graham
 
John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I find the humour too juvenile for my taste. It's like finding farts funny
and nothing else.

More likely you find it juvenile because you don't get the twists;
some of Brooks' stuff is fairly subtle. But there are a lot of
Americanisms and Jewish humor and Black (as in African, not as in
noire) humor you may not get.

What humor meets your standards?

Not much actually. I find much of it pretty banale. I'm not sure you'd know the
stuff either. Did you ever see Fawlty Towers ( John Cleese ) for example ? At
least there's a decent chance of that.

I didn't like FT;

Well it is very British.


it was stupid situation/embarassment comedy like "I
Love Lucy"

In which case it didn't 'translate' well over your side of the pond.


, nowhere near Monte Python level. Wodehouse is my favorite
comedic writer... I laugh out loud when I read his stuff.

I find that dull.


You should laugh more... it might cheer you up.

Don't worry. I laugh a bit. There's not a heck of a lot to laugh about these days
though ( see thread ).

Beg to differ. The world is wonderful, and with a bit of conscious
effort one can learn to appreciate it. A rational creature could do no
less.
It really doesn't feel very wonderful right now.

Having a whole continent to yourselves may help your view.

Graham
 
lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
Gordon wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:46:00 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote:
"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

Unless you assume some really bad things about his motives that is.

9/11 was Bush's failure.

How long had Bush been in office when 9/11 occurred? Who was in
office the 8 years before that?

Well, if you're going to play that ridiculous game...what party was in
office for 12 years before that, and 20 of the past 24? Surely *they*
deserve a lot of the blame too, with such an extended stay in power....

The Republicans need to stop trying to blame everybody else. Condoleeza
Rice said she was unable to recall having had a meeting with the longtime
anti-terrorism "czar" (I can picture his face, but his name escapes me at
the moment) in July 2001, when that meeting has actually been *verified* to
have taken place, and has been *verified* to have included his plan for
continued action to protect us from al Qaeda. She was so completely
uninterested in terrorism, that she couldn't even remember having been
briefed on the issue. Clinton may not have succeeded in taking out bin
Laden, but it's quite clear that the current administration took their eye
off the ball in a way that has proven to have been far more dangerous. To
attempt to lay that entirely in the laps of the Clinton administration is
just simply not tenable.

Eric Lucas
That's Gordon you should be addressing there not me btw.

Graham
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

T Wake wrote:

Soon Teacher will turn up to put a stop to this playground fight.

Really? Do you know why the teacher left? He's out making book on
the fight, and the odds are in our favor.
In your dreams.

Graham
 
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:

T Wake wrote:

When we all have to carry ID cards I will know the "war" is indeed over.

You don't have a driver's license?
Don't be so silly.

Graham
 
["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 14:41:27 -0700,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
in Msg. <k4a8i29r7fefoc7u4d8ja0k5psaubo2s76@4ax.com>

The history of Europe is the history of war. The earliest Greek
writings that survive are tales of war. Europe has been at war for
most of the last 3000 years,
The history of the US is no less war-ridden than that of Europe except
that it is much shorter. This is as unfair a comparison as that between
a single nation (the US) with only two borders and a not very
well-defined conglomerate of dozens of nations and cultures (Europe).

culminating in the "total war" of the
20th century, killing tens of millions of non-combattants, surely the
largest-scale terrorism in world history.
I entirely and heartily agree, but I'm surprised to hear that from you.
If I were in your position I'd be careful when labeling acts of war as
terrorism. You're running the risk of having to call American aggression
terrorism, and we sure want to avoid that association.

It was the American occupation, Pax Americana, that enforced 60 years
of peace in Europe for the first time in millennia.
That statement is about as true as saying that it was the Soviet regime
that enforced those decades of peace. The only thing that kept things
quiet in Europe was the fear of both the US and the USSR to get wiped
off the face of the planet should they try anything stupid. That period
is commonly referred to as the "Cold War", not "Peace".

robert
 
["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.design.]
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:22:41 -0700,
John Larkin <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote
in Msg. <7pq8i2t26e02tutk5nbakmv4jm1rtrg73s@4ax.com>

I didn't like FT; it was stupid situation/embarassment comedy like "I
Love Lucy", nowhere near Monte Python level.
Have you seen the recent BBC series, "Extras"? It's as close as it gets
to MP, though entirely different.

robert
 
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:17:25 -0700,
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in Msg. <32k7i2pl7v7qbk55scm4r6sa1k4tum6211@4ax.com>

And I still stand by the content of those two messages. The camps in
Yuma are still there ;-)
Feel free to stand by them, but all they say is that if members of some
group X are not outspoken against crimes committed by other members of
the same group, all group X members should be presumed criminal and be
rounded up in camps.

What constitutes such a group, and how membership is determined, can of
course be invented at will.

Anyway, maybe I'm a bit sensitive to the whole "camp" thingy because a
grandparent of mine was murdered in one some 60 years ago. Maybe I'll
warm to the idea if we call them something other than "camp".

robert
 
Robert Latest wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:17:25 -0700,
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote
in Msg. <32k7i2pl7v7qbk55scm4r6sa1k4tum6211@4ax.com

And I still stand by the content of those two messages. The camps in
Yuma are still there ;-)

Feel free to stand by them, but all they say is that if members of some
group X are not outspoken against crimes committed by other members of
the same group, all group X members should be presumed criminal and be
rounded up in camps.

What constitutes such a group, and how membership is determined, can of
course be invented at will.

Anyway, maybe I'm a bit sensitive to the whole "camp" thingy because a
grandparent of mine was murdered in one some 60 years ago. Maybe I'll
warm to the idea if we call them something other than "camp".
The treatment of Japanese Americans was shockingly bad anyway. Why did they
have to be deprived of their property.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese-American_relocation

We were much nicer to our enemy aliens.

" At the outbreak of war there were around 80,000 potential enemy aliens in
Britain who, it was feared, could be spies, or willing to assist Britain's
enemies in the event of an invasion. All Germans and Austrians over the age
of 16 were called before special tribunals and were divided into one of
three groups:
'A' - high security risks, numbering just under 600, who were immediately
interned;
'B' - 'doubtful cases', numbering around 6,500, who were supervised and
subject to restrictions;
'C' - 'no security risk', numbering around 64,000, who were left at
liberty. More than 55,000 of category 'C' were recognised as refugees from
Nazi oppression. The vast majority of these were Jewish. "

http://www.bbc.co.uk/ww2peopleswar/timeline/factfiles/nonflash/a6651858.shtml?sectionId=1&articleId=6651858

Graham
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

If its the British police who are looking for it themselves, then
they are guilty, as well.

it's. Its you can write for example, when describing something specific
which belongs to the English Police. E.g. Its behaviour..., Its
efficiency in....



Best regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
Robert Latest wrote:

get wiped off the face of the planet should they try anything stupid.
That period is commonly referred to as the "Cold War", not "Peace".

robert

Brruahahaha... wiped out ;-).... with what?? Atom?

France can tear both (US junkies and Russian Vodkabottles) apart at
once. Unfortunately only with the single-way atom solution, too :-|





Best Regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
Michael A. Terrell wrote:

The jury is still out on that one. Its a hung jury. I hanged them
myself. ;-)

Hang 'em lower. :)


Best regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
John Larkin wrote:

Sounds strange to me. The people I know have traveled a lot, and many
have lived in other countries. Americans are often fans and admirers
of other countries and languages. As for not being very introspective,
that is true of many Americans, and it's generally a virtue: jobs,
hobbies, interests, causes, and family are a lot more interesting than
narcissistic, neurotic self-absorption. Maybe you are mistaking
politeness and open-mindedness for being gullible: they are different.

Of course America is big, with beaches, glaciers, mountains, rivers,
an enormous variety of geography and cultures. Not all Americans elect
to fly overseas when we have 50 different states of our own to
explore. Your thinking seems to be undisturbed by actual knowledge of
the US.

John


We will see how it will look alike in some thousand years.

You managed to stop many natural beings there in a few hundred years.
Not to mention the other catastrophes you managed to ge into.
You could not overlive the next Winter (f. Wind in his Hair), you
cannot even overlive the growy Summer (f. Daniel Redheart). Also in
Spain, there they already investi more energy for cooling than heating.
(I feel com-fart-ably at 30-40 degrees celsius ~100 fahrenheit, but not
in a betonized town, of course I can understand. You should green up
your towns a bit and not call them lapidar 'Big Apple' for example, like
it has been grown on a big healthy apple-tree -farce!)


Best regards,

Daniel Mandic
 
In article <45239DF5.B10BF698@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
JoeBloe wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> Gave us:
jmfbahciv@aol.com wrote:
JoeBloe <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote:

Essentially a stupid jerk is all he amounts to.

Let him be one. He is merely doing the popular action in
blaming the US to assuage his fear.

I have no fear of these issues. It's the damn Americans who are afraid
you clot !

America hating blind bastard. That's all you are, ass, and why does
it smell like unkempt livestock in here?

It's what Bush has done to America that's horrible. It's brought the very
worst out in eveyone there. It was fine under Clinton.
No. It was not fine at all.

/BAH
 

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