Jihad needs scientists

[Eeyore]

Jim Thompson wrote:

kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
Gordon <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

Unless you assume some really bad things about his motives that is.

9/11 was Bush's failure.

How long had Bush been in office when 9/11 occurred? Who was in
office the 8 years before that?

He was in office for just about 8 months adn for just about 8 months, he
had the Clinton admins advice for going after OBL and ignored it. Clinton
tried to get OBL and failed Bush did not try.

How many times has Clinton pointed and wagged his finger at the media?

(1) "I did not have sex with that woman."

(2) "I _tried_ to get OBL...", just recently interviewed by Chris
Wallace.

Sounds like the sign of the liar to me ;-)

...Jim Thompson

That's because you're a prick.

And anyway many American kids today think they're being chaste as long as they
don't have vaginal sex. You ppl are truly weird.

Graham

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
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(2) "I _tried_ to get OBL...", just recently interviewed by Chris
Wallace.

Sounds like the sign of the liar to me ;-)

It will be when Bush tries it after his term ends.

 

[Kurt Ullman]

In article <eg1q2n$vr4$1@blue.rahul.net>,
kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:

He was in office for just about 8 months adn for just about 8 months, he
had the Clinton admins advice for going after OBL and ignored it. Clinton
tried to get OBL and failed Bush did not try.

Clinton's attempt to get OBL was to lob a coupla cruise missles in his
general direction and hope he walked under one. I don't subscribe to
the he coulda had him from the Sudan (or wherever) idea, but to say
Clinton was fixated or wanting to go after OBL is stretching reality.
Nobody took him terribly seriously until 9/11.

 

[YD]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:58:53 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:43:32 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 18:45:09 -0500, John Fields
jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 20:04:16 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



T Wake wrote:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote

Yep, I knew he was at Battelle, thus my previous not-so-quiet comment
that his mouth was running on government money.

Wonder if his boss knows the crap he posts? I'll make sure that he
does ;-)

Loathe though I am to join in with the generalisation of American behaviour
traits, am I reading this correct in that some one has disagreed with you so
your response is a series of threats of violence and / or complaining to his
employer.

Amazing. You make me so proud.

Nothing's too base for Jim.

He even claims to be a libertarian !


---
And you claim to be human.

Which is the bigger stretch?\



Most certainly Jim's claim to be libertarian.

- YD.

[cross-posting to non S.E.D deleted]

War: To the right of Attila the Hun
Threat to the US in any form: Nuk'em
Religious terrorists: Kill and desecrate their bodies
Guns: Everyone should have at least one, AND sufficient ammo
Economics: No taxes except for infrastructure; free market,
no gov't controls, no social legislation
Abortion: Pro
Stem Cell Research: Pro
Personal Consumption of Drugs: Go ahead and kill yourself if you like
Gay: I could care less... just stay out of my face
Religion: I could care less... just stay out of my face
Democrats: OK, if you are that ignorant... just stay out of my face
In my face: Eat a bullet
Global warming caused by man: Hogwash
Graham/Eeyore: Ignorance to the point of PRICELESS ;-)
Eric Lucas: A close second

Sounds Libertarian to me ;-)

No, it doesn't.

- YD.

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[John Larkin]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:10:41 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
news:5ej7i2h3fbuks2ft3pk2o2gf3alga3na3k@4ax.com...

Yet another American dismisses non-American thing thinking as crap.

Crap thinking knows no borders.

Actually the US border does delineate a lot of it. Americans as a group are
almost totally focussed inwards - but are not at all introspective. Their
thinking is not at all broadened by knowledge of the world, and they are
amazingly gullible.

Sounds strange to me. The people I know have traveled a lot, and many
have lived in other countries. Americans are often fans and admirers
of other countries and languages. As for not being very introspective,
that is true of many Americans, and it's generally a virtue: jobs,
hobbies, interests, causes, and family are a lot more interesting than
narcissistic, neurotic self-absorption. Maybe you are mistaking
politeness and open-mindedness for being gullible: they are different.

Of course America is big, with beaches, glaciers, mountains, rivers,
an enormous variety of geography and cultures. Not all Americans elect
to fly overseas when we have 50 different states of our own to
explore. Your thinking seems to be undisturbed by actual knowledge of
the US.

John

 

[YD]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 09:01:56 -0700, Jim Thompson
<To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 12:53:57 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 08:37:41 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:52:41 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

[snip]

The United States is the world's largest contributor of ODA in absolute terms
($15.7 billion, 2003), but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a
percentage of its GDP (0.14% in 2003). The UN target for development aid is 0.7%
of GDP; currently only five countries (with Norway in the lead with 0.92%) achieve
this." ( my emphasis )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aid


Graham





http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USAid.asp


See "side notes on private contributions." Personally, both my wife
and I donate many thousands of dollars to the foreign-aid institutions
we believe in. This year, I will give maybe $20,000 to Doctors Without
Borders.

How much do you personally donate to things like this?

John

Sheeesh! Do a Google-groups search on Eeyore/Graham... he's a
depraved poster to porn groups, so he's probably in a cell, posting
from the prison library ;-)

...Jim Thompson

PPOSTFU

- YD.

Several lurkers here have done the same Google-group search and
verified it. So do it yourself. ESAD ;-)

...Jim Thompson

So you don't in fact have anything except for what you fantasize in
your twisted mind.

- YD.

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[Ken Smith]

In article <45244EC3.CCE667A1@hotmail.com>,
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

[....]
No, they're not. They're survival manuals.

That's a very strange idea.

---
Think about it for a while.

I don't need to.

(while taking another bite of pork)
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"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

That's not my recollection.

Ok, it is my recollection though.

Fair nuff !

You need to stop reading too much implied criticism where there isnt
any.

There's been *loads* !

In my posts?

A misunderstanding it seems.

Possibly. The joys of the text based USENET.

Yes, let's do stick to getting offended by the *ex*plicit insults. There
are way more than enough of those in this thread to go around.

Eric Lucas

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 15:46:20 -0500, John Fields
<jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:11:29 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:


"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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Where did the current terrorism financing and materials come
from?

From the USA (oil). Unlike most every other conflict, the US is paying for
both sides in this one.

---
I've always thought it would be interesting to see what would happen
if the US sent troops to, say, Honduras to protect them from
Guatemala and to Nicaragua to protect them from Costa Rica, and then
Honduras and Nicaragua decided to declare war on each other.

Unlikely. Google "Costa Rica army"

John

 

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Well, I'd like to have a few less crapolas posts so I can find
the ones were posted by thoughtful people.

Reasonable enough wish, although it carries the risk that you only read
posts which say things you already agree with.... Always seems kind of
pointless to me.

Seems that's what most people in this discussion want...and if you don't
give it to them, they'll swear at you, insult you, and even threaten
physical violence and assault. I have learned a lot from the few
*reasonable* posters in this thread, both those I agree with *and* those
I don't...and there are even a few people in the discussion with whom I
disagree but they still showed respect for my opinion. It's too bad that
everyone else is so insecure in themselves and their views that the
slightest difference of opinion brings obscenity, insults and threats of
violence instead of healthy discussion.

Sadly it is what passes for normal debate on USENET most of the time
though

With the exception of the occasional satirical response to the Netkook du
jour, Uncle Al's occasional rants at homework grubbers and greenies, and a
few other immature wackos like Hanson, sci.chem has for a long time (at
least back to 1993, when I first became active) been much more civil than
this. People disagree and debate all the time, but it is *extremely* rare
that it gets to the "fuck you" stage of pointless genital-measuring. One
would hope that the rest of the sci.* hierarchy was similarly mature, but I
guess not.

Eric Lucas

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:46:30 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

kensmith@green.rahul.net (Ken Smith) wrote:
Gordon <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote:
"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

Unless you assume some really bad things about his motives that is.

9/11 was Bush's failure.

How long had Bush been in office when 9/11 occurred? Who was in
office the 8 years before that?

He was in office for just about 8 months adn for just about 8 months, he
had the Clinton admins advice for going after OBL and ignored it. Clinton
tried to get OBL and failed Bush did not try.

How many times has Clinton pointed and wagged his finger at the media?

(1) "I did not have sex with that woman."

(2) "I _tried_ to get OBL...", just recently interviewed by Chris
Wallace.

Sounds like the sign of the liar to me ;-)

...Jim Thompson

That's because you're a prick.

And anyway many American kids today think they're being chaste as long as they
don't have vaginal sex. You ppl are truly weird.

Graham

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408249&in_page_id=1770


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=408249&in_page_id=1770

Are you a ten-percent-er?


John

 

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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lucasea@sbcglobal.net wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Keith wrote:
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com says...

And you think you can defeat 'radical Islam' with bombs and bullets
?

I know there is no choice. Perhaps you want to submit?

There is no need to 'submit'

You're living in a perversely stupid fantasy paranoid world.

It comes from the constant bombardment by Bush's fear-mongering--it's his
way of keeping power over people. People start to lose perspective on
what
is happening and why. It really is a very powerful narcotic.

Have you seen this ?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/3755686.stm

No, I hadn't. Interesting thesis. I do hope PBS or BBCAmerica picks up the
program, I'd like to see it.

Eric Lucas

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:43:48 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I find the humour too juvenile for my taste. It's like finding farts funny
and nothing else.

More likely you find it juvenile because you don't get the twists;
some of Brooks' stuff is fairly subtle. But there are a lot of
Americanisms and Jewish humor and Black (as in African, not as in
noire) humor you may not get.

What humor meets your standards?

Not much actually. I find much of it pretty banale. I'm not sure you'd know the
stuff either. Did you ever see Fawlty Towers ( John Cleese ) for example ? At
least there's a decent chance of that.

I didn't like FT;

Well it is very British.


it was stupid situation/embarassment comedy like "I
Love Lucy"

In which case it didn't 'translate' well over your side of the pond.


, nowhere near Monte Python level. Wodehouse is my favorite
comedic writer... I laugh out loud when I read his stuff.

I find that dull.


You should laugh more... it might cheer you up.

Don't worry. I laugh a bit. There's not a heck of a lot to laugh about these days
though ( see thread ).

Beg to differ. The world is wonderful, and with a bit of conscious
effort one can learn to appreciate it. A rational creature could do no
less.

John

 

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <lef8i2prust90bdlna6vmp1r0h9p7a7a95@4ax.com>,
Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:


Of course. But I can record and then hand over to the government, no
sweat, no warrant, nada.

Plenty of sweat. Any half-way sentient defense attorney is going
to try and suggest you were acting as an agent of the cops in a rather
blatant attempt to circumvent the rights of my poor, misunderstood
client who killed those 25 people because he overdosed on twinkies.
Might actually make the case. Seen it happen often enough.

What, overdosing on Twinkies? *That* can't be pretty.

Eric Lucas

 

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Gordon wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 18:46:00 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote:
"Ken Smith" <kensmith@green.rahul.net> wrote in message

Clinton was successful.

Bush is a failure.

Unless you assume some really bad things about his motives that is.

9/11 was Bush's failure.

How long had Bush been in office when 9/11 occurred? Who was in
office the 8 years before that?

Well, if you're going to play that ridiculous game...what party was in
office for 12 years before that, and 20 of the past 24? Surely *they*
deserve a lot of the blame too, with such an extended stay in power....

The Republicans need to stop trying to blame everybody else. Condoleeza
Rice said she was unable to recall having had a meeting with the longtime
anti-terrorism "czar" (I can picture his face, but his name escapes me at
the moment) in July 2001, when that meeting has actually been *verified* to
have taken place, and has been *verified* to have included his plan for
continued action to protect us from al Qaeda. She was so completely
uninterested in terrorism, that she couldn't even remember having been
briefed on the issue. Clinton may not have succeeded in taking out bin
Laden, but it's quite clear that the current administration took their eye
off the ball in a way that has proven to have been far more dangerous. To
attempt to lay that entirely in the laps of the Clinton administration is
just simply not tenable.

Eric Lucas

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Kurt Ullman" <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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He was in office for just about 8 months adn for just about 8 months, he
had the Clinton admins advice for going after OBL and ignored it.
Clinton
tried to get OBL and failed Bush did not try.

Clinton's attempt to get OBL was to lob a coupla cruise missles in his
general direction and hope he walked under one. I don't subscribe to
the he coulda had him from the Sudan (or wherever) idea, but to say
Clinton was fixated or wanting to go after OBL is stretching reality.
Nobody took him terribly seriously until 9/11.

Bullshit. Clinton was seriously keen on killing him. Bush didn't know there
were foreigners in the world.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"John Larkin" <jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message
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Sounds strange to me. The people I know have traveled a lot, and many
have lived in other countries. Americans are often fans and admirers
of other countries and languages. As for not being very introspective,
that is true of many Americans, and it's generally a virtue: jobs,
hobbies, interests, causes, and family are a lot more interesting than
narcissistic, neurotic self-absorption. Maybe you are mistaking
politeness and open-mindedness for being gullible: they are different.

Of course America is big, with beaches, glaciers, mountains, rivers,
an enormous variety of geography and cultures. Not all Americans elect
to fly overseas when we have 50 different states of our own to
explore. Your thinking seems to be undisturbed by actual knowledge of
the US.

And what percentage of Americans have ever been further than Canada or
Mexico? Or have even left their own state?

Ever watch Jay Leno?

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

John Fields wrote:

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 19:00:32 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

I look forward to the arrest of US citizens by the British Police for running
'extreme' porn sites when and if the new law comes into force in that case.

---
That would be what? Pictures of people fucking with the lights on?

Wouldn't they arrest the donkey as well? "Ello?" "Ello! I've just
downloaded this really nasty US porn, and I want the owners arrested,
you see. I mean, its disgusting and all that rot!" "Yesir, we'll send
the boys right round to pick up the evidence!"


If its the British police who are looking for it themselves, then
they are guilty, as well.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Daniel Mandic wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Thompson and Terrell are amongst the lowest forms of life posting
here. JoeBloe beats them hands down though.

Graham

Ermm, is Terrell not an electronic guru?

The jury is still out on that one. Its a hung jury. I hanged them
myself. ;-)


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

T Wake wrote:

Soon Teacher will turn up to put a stop to this playground fight.

Really? Do you know why the teacher left? He's out making book on
the fight, and the odds are in our favor.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida