Jihad needs scientists

[Eeyore]

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:00:38 -0500, John Fields wrote
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:28:57 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:

I bet you're looking forward to that, boxcars and death camps. Does
"get nasty" include acquiring political power?

If it ever came to it, I'd expect it would be the public reacting, not the politicians.

So then you're saying that you're all racists just waiting for
something to happen so you can let it out?

Sounds like it. Wasn't there a recent suggestion that the Nazis and
the Brits should have made a deal?

Not the Nazis, no although it was suggested that Rudolf Hess was up for it.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

JoeBloe wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 04:53:35 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

Facts you are unaware of?

Other national: "I feel bad so I'll talk to my friends"

American: "I feel bad so I'll murder some innocent people"

You're an idiot. Euro nations were slaughtering thousands long
before we ever did.

Most Americans are Europeans.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:

Until such time as Muslims exist in sufficient numbers the point is utterly moot.

A billion, give or take.

A billion a continent or 2 away is no threat even assuming they were a *threat* in the first place.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
T Wake wrote:
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote
Is Hezbollah a terrorist organisation ?
If you are asking my opinion..... then yes. A nasty, ruthless
one.
However sometimes terrorists seem to come in from the cold.
That's the point at which they've won.
Looks like they won in that case.
Do you count Hizbullah as a terrorist organisation?
I don't see a clear cut black and white case either way quite frankly.
Fair one. Which side of the fence do you put them on a a personal
opinion?
I truthfully don't know enough to make a decision.

Ok.

The Turkish Gov't has a similar problem with the KDP.
Also Terrorists.
But our friends !

Yep. Still terrorists though. If they weren't helping in Iraq we'd be
helping exterminate them.

Probably still will if Iraq breaks up.
Then Turkey gets given its 'get out of jail free' card by the US for
whatever acts of genocide they decide to inflict upon the new Kurdish
republic.

From the USA maybe but the EU's on their backs now.

That membership carrot carries a lot of weight.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> writes:

AQ and the Islamic-inspired terror organisations are not relateable to WWII
Germany / Japan / Italy.

You have a violent and expansionist ideology which openly declares
world domination as its goal. You think it is not relateable?

Who does ?

The US is not demonizing Islam, at this point.

"at this point..."

*Yes*. Your point...?

It is the implied threat.

Oh, please. First, we've statements along the lines that "the US
should stop demonizing Islam". When it is pointed out that the US is
making the distinction between Islam and Muslim extremsits and *is
not* demonising Islam at this point, then we get "at this point...",
implying "you don't do it yet but we're sure you will so we can
already demand you stop doing it". If you expect me to conduct
conversation at this garbage level, then you're mistaken. Good bye.

Are you suggesting that the US *isn't* demonising Islam ?

If so, I reckon the point is lost on most Americans for starters.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Homer J Simpson wrote:

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote

Alternatively you could put every mosque under armed guard and provide
them with no end of support....

Or move them all to the Outer Hebrides - and the Muslims with them!

With such a wide selection to choose from, I often wonder why we have no
prison islands. You could make the prisoners actually work the land and
stuff. You never know, it might do them good.

You don't even have to 'make' them. Provide seeds and a calendar and
pictures of winter.

LOL !

They should build their own accomadation too. I couldn't think of anything
better for some of the jerks that exist today.

Graham

 

[JoeBloe]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:53:01 GMT, AZ Nomad <aznomad@PmunOgeBOX.com>
Gave us:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 09:54:39 -0700, Jim Thompson <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote:


On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:58:51 -0400, Keith <krw@att.bizzzz> wrote:

In article <18l4i2pda32a9pcks1snm7p1ne0ksphvjd@4ax.com>,
joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org says...
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 07:33:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> Gave us:



That's why we should discontinue all aid except to developing nations
needing food and health assistance.

And burn the UN to the ground.


Have you ever heard that little piece by Robin Williams about us
simply stopping all we do for others? It is very funny as it were.

You mean this one?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/williams.asp

I like this part....

"The Statue of Liberty is no longer saying 'Give me your poor, your
tired, your huddled masses.' She's got a baseball bat and she's
yelling, 'You want a piece of me?'" ? Robin Williams.

...Jim Thompson

Did you really read that article? It debunks the story that Williams had
anything to do with that little piece.

Actually, did you read the article, dope? It states that he didn't
"say" any of EXCEPT for the piece that Jim quoted.

 

[JoeBloe]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 19:54:48 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon@My-Web-Site.com> wrote in
message news:f5b5i25b016ar7oqs9spvpbnkne7c70uv6@4ax.com...

The 'Robin Williams' attribution for the final item was interpreted as
applying to the list as a whole, so now the entire piece circulates as
'the Robin Williams plan.'

But he didn't create it.


But the little tid bit at the end, which Jim quoted he DID "create".

Sheesh you guys are thick sometimes. Ask for your money back from the
speed reading courseware vendor.

 

[JoeBloe]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:40:34 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Ignoring the blemishes, which is
what most of the Joe Sixpack 'Murc'n rednecks like yourself choose to do


Hahahah... I drink better beers than your retarded ass does.

So you only drink imported beer?

I also work on more sophisticated gear than you do.

So you only work on imported gear?

You're a fucking retard on both counts.

 

[JoeBloe]

On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 00:48:23 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> Gave us:

JoeBloe wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:05:11 +0100, Eeyore Gave us:

John Larkin wrote:

Graham has a pathological and mostly irrational hatred of America,

Not at all.

You're full of shit. The proof is in your posts from no more than
the last two days.

Given the simplistic juvenile level of what passes for thinking in your
retarded skull, I'd be happy to shit on you from a great height.

Problem is... the SHIT that YOU ARE sags when stacked more than a
few inches high.

 

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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Where did the current terrorism financing and materials come
from?

From the USA (oil). Unlike most every other conflict, the US is paying for
both sides in this one.

Much more directly, the US funded and equipped ObL in his struggles against
the Soviets in Afghanistan. The US funded and equipped Saddam Hussein when
we were having a little set-to against the Iranians in the 70s. Funny, both
seemed like such good ideas at the time....

What conclusion do you take from these facts?

Eric Lucas

 

<jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message
news:eftb20$8ss_006@s888.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com...

In article <DReUg.28$45.71@news.uchicago.edu>,
mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:
In article <9n22i2tv97gi1nu17cif4u0nlj2el109nf@4ax.com>, JoeBloe
joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> writes:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 09:24:57 GMT, mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu Gave us:

In article <4520D8A3.4083F074@hotmail.com>, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:

Al Qaeda wasn't really known about prior to 9/11 so your point is moot.

Al Queda was known for at least a decade before 9/11. "Not paid
attention to" is not the same thing as "not known". And Al Queda
itself is just an offshot of earlier movements.

Why even converse with that stupid idiot?

Good question.

Because the content of his posts are a catalyst for real
discussions that aren't getting done in the usual mediums.

Kind of a nice change of pace, isn't it?

Eric Lucas

 

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
news:k1CUg.49$45.181@news.uchicago.edu...

In article <efta6e$8ss_003@s888.apx1.sbo.ma.dialup.rcn.com>,
jmfbahciv@aol.com writes:
In article <efr837$sb7$3@blue.rahul.net>,

It is time for a war on the improper use of the term "war on".

Yes. I always thought that these sound bytes were crying
wolf. When was the first one? Johnson's War on Poverty?

Well, there was this and "the War on Cancer". Not sure which came
first.

Then again, there's the "War which became a Cancer", which adequately
describes our current activities in Iraq.

Eric Lucas

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jim Thompson wrote:

The Europeons have no clue how Americans react when they finally get
mad... Democrat and Republican divisions disappear, and we fight as
one. The shit WILL hit the fan.

If they '...pull a "war all at once" on us' they will be lined up dead
in the streets.

Not to mention all the money the US will save by not having to safely
destroy old warheads.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

JoeBloe wrote:

But the little tid bit at the end, which Jim quoted he DID "create".
Sheesh you guys are thick sometimes. Ask for your money back from the
speed reading courseware vendor.

Speed reading? He's a charter member of the book of the decade club.


--
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida

 

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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T Wake wrote:

jmfbahciv@aol.com> wrote in message

This mess is about changing a mindset; either Western civilization's
mindset is changed or religious extremists' mindset is changed.

I agree completely.

How about removing the either and replacing the or with and ?

Also an option. Any one of those three will work.

I think the mutual concession option is probably the most desirable option,
as it avoids resentful compliance on either side (or at least it would
spread the resentment more equitably.)

If westerners are more concerned with staying alive than having their
freedoms eventually they will convert and the conflict will end.

If the population in the Middle East become enticed by freedom and it's
potential then the support for terrorists will dry up and the conflict
will end.

If both happens the conflict will end. (In an odd way though )

Ony O Henry could have written a more ludicrous ending! :^)

Eric Lucas

 

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
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If westerners are more concerned with staying alive than having their
freedoms eventually they will convert and the conflict will end.

Nuke 'em. And if they complain then, as Bette Midler says, "Fuck 'em if
they can't take a joke".

Humor noted, but it leads to the question "Nuke whom?" To cover all of the
ground that terrorists currently occupy, you'd have to drop enough nukes to
basically make the rest of the planet completely uninhabitable for a long
time. Nuclear winter scenarios from the Cold War, all over again. If that
were the case, I think the ones at Ground Zero would be the lucky ones,
regardless of which side they're on.

Eric Lucas

 

"John Fields" <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:04:06 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:



JoeBloe wrote:

On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 14:17:53 +0100, Eeyore
rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> Gave us:

but the *SMALLEST* among developed countries as a
percentage of its GDP

Whoopie fuckin doo. That proves that we are a prosperous nation and
we still beat everyone else on the tab.

No. It proves you're shallow.

---
No, it doesn't.

If we gave much more it would make everyone else's contribution look
so small that they'd figure it was OK to abrogate their
responsibility and they'd give even less. Or nothing at all.

Now there's a BS rationalization if I've ever heard one!

Eric Lucas

 

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:40:34 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:


"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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Ignoring the blemishes, which is
what most of the Joe Sixpack 'Murc'n rednecks like yourself choose to do


Hahahah... I drink better beers than your retarded ass does.

So you only drink imported beer?

I also work on more sophisticated gear than you do.

So you only work on imported gear?

You're a fucking retard on both counts.

You insist on continuing to live up to the redneck Joe Sixpack stereotype,
then you get POed when someone points it out to you. It must suck to live
your life.

Eric Lucas

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 18:32:57 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 17:58:41 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 16:21:16 +0100, Eeyore wrote:
John Larkin wrote:
On Mon, 02 Oct 2006 17:12:32 +0100, Eeyore wrote:

" he asks whether Muslims will be the victims of the next pogroms "

See my post on this point.

That's why I laugh when American try lecturing us about being blind to the danger
from Islam. Do you guys seriously think we'd ever let them get the upper hand ?

Graham

Upper hand? What does Europe plan to do about the exponents of
population growth, negative for the traditional population and
positive for Islamic immigrants?

So, you're worried about a hypothetical something in maybe 1000 yrs ?

Has it ever ocurred to you that most European Muslims don't want to live like backward
tribesppl ?

Graham

Has it occurred to you that there are different perspectives on
"backward"? No, I guess not.

Has it occurred to you to ask any Muslims ?

Graham

There's one two doors down from me at this instant, and I talk to him
about stuff like this all the time.

So, "yes."

I thought that might be the case. So what does he say ?

Graham

that Islam is a religion of peace and tolerance, except that the
Shiites are insane.

John