Jihad needs scientists

[Richard The Dreaded Liber]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 16:57:03 +0000, Gordon wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 09:33:30 -0700, John Larkin
On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 07:07:41 -0700, JoeBloe

You idiots are representative of NOTHING except killing of civilians
in the most cowardly way there is. You don't even have the spine to
confront your enemies like real men.

In a polygamous theocracy, sending out the young men to be suicide
bombers serves two purposes.

Okay, I'm a little slow this morning. What's the second purpose?
I can see where purpose # 1 is to get rid of the excess young
men, by brainwashing them into being suicide bombers, so the
ruthless leaders can have more of the young women to themselves,
but what's purpose #2?

To repel the invasions by the crusaders, yet again.

Thanks,
Rich

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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You idiots are representative of NOTHING except killing of civilians
in the most cowardly way there is. You don't even have the spine to
confront your enemies like real men.

"... confront your enemies like real men"

Bombing them with cruise missiles you mean????

 

[JoeBloe]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:04:15 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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On 29 Sep 2006 09:06:40 -0700, science_for_jihad@yahoo.com Gave us:

Jihad needs competent scientists

Right. You fucking retards that want to take the entire world back
to the stone age want to use the technology that WE made over hundreds
of years as a tool.

Fuck you, you stupid, non-religfious fanatical fucks!

You idiots are representative of NOTHING except killing of civilians
in the most cowardly way there is. You don't even have the spine to
confront your enemies like real men.

Fuck off, assholes!

Get a grip.

Shove a stick up your ass while you go fuck off as well.

Usenet is a wall

Your skull is a wall.

- everyone pisses on it and nothing is sure to
be true.

Whatever, piss boy.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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- everyone pisses on it and nothing is sure to
be true.

Whatever, piss boy.

What a demented little wanker you are.

 

[JoeBloe]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 19:50:27 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> Gave us:

"JoeBloe" <joebloe@thebarattheendoftheuniverse.org> wrote in message
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You idiots are representative of NOTHING except killing of civilians
in the most cowardly way there is. You don't even have the spine to
confront your enemies like real men.

"... confront your enemies like real men"

Bombing them with cruise missiles you mean????


Give me your coordinates, pussy boy. :-]

 

[Gordon]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:04:16 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:bisvh213u75iqunnota6n1h2dst8ocj8nm@4ax.com...

Okay, I'm a little slow this morning. What's the second purpose?
I can see where purpose # 1 is to get rid of the excess young
men, by brainwashing them into being suicide bombers, so the
ruthless leaders can have more of the young women to themselves,
but what's purpose #2?

Same purpose as the Republicans starting wars then blaming everything on the
war.

The Holy Bible, King James Version

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbour.

Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against
thy neighbour.

Proverbs 6:16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are
an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and
hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked
imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A
false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord
among brethren.

Proverbs 12:17 He that speaketh truth showeth forth
righteousness: but a false witness deceit.

Proverbs 14:5 A faithful witness will not lie: but a false
witness will utter lies.

Proverbs 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he
that speaketh lies shall not escape.

Proverbs 19:9 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and he
that speaketh lies shall perish.

Proverbs 21:28 A false witness shall perish: but the man that
heareth speaketh constantly.

Proverbs 25:18 A man that beareth false witness against his
neighbour is a maul, and a sword, and a sharp arrow.

Matthew 15:19 For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts,
murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness,
blasphemies:

Matthew 19:18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do
no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal,
Thou shalt not bear false witness,

Matthew 26:59 Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the
council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death;
Mark 10:19 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery,
Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Defraud
not, Honour thy father and mother.

Mark 14:56 For many bare false witness against him, but their
witness agreed not together.

Mark 14:57 And there arose certain, and bare false witness
against him, saying,

Luke 18:20 Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit
adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother.

Romans 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt
not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false
witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other
commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 18:04:15 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

Get a grip. Usenet is a wall - everyone pisses on it and nothing is sure to
be true.

---
Is that true?


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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Same purpose as the Republicans starting wars then blaming everything on
the
war.

The Holy Bible, King James Version

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbour.

Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against
thy neighbour.

....

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

 

[Gordon]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 21:10:22 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

Same purpose as the Republicans starting wars then blaming everything on
the war.

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:r980i2h3pr3evtr03c34k0lmghqgd5a4re@4ax.com...

The Holy Bible, King James Version

Exodus 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy
neighbour.

Deuteronomy 5:20 Neither shalt thou bear false witness against
thy neighbour.

...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before

President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

How long should we have "turned the other cheek?"

1979 Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the
U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released.
The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days, on the day of
President Reagan's inauguration.

1982-1991 Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped
in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in
captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was
held for 2,454 days.

1983 April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide
car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic
Jihad claimed responsibility.

1983 Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded
truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241
Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French
paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.

1983 Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked
the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.

1984 Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside
the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.

1984 Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from
Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two
Americans killed.

1985 April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by
U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to
Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17
days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.

1985 Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise
ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to
Libya.

1985 Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome
and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were
Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.

1986 April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight
840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and
injuring 9.

1986 April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco
frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.

1988 Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747
exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into
Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground.
Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S.
military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15
years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to
victims' families.

1993 Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of
World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others.
In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others
were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef,
believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the
bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.

1995 April 19, Oklahoma City: car bomb exploded outside federal
office building, collapsing wall and floors. 168 people were
killed, including 19 children and 1 person who died in rescue
effort. Over 220 buildings sustained damage. Timothy McVeigh and
Terry Nichols later convicted in the antigovernment plot to
avenge the Branch Davidian standoff in Waco, Tex., exactly two
years earlier. (See Miscellaneous Disasters.)
Nov. 13, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: car bomb exploded at U.S. military
headquarters, killing five U.S. military servicemen.

1996 June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside
Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen
and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese,
all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were
indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.

1998 Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck
bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies,
killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about
4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received
training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of
the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A
federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the
attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained
at large.

2000 Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily
damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up
alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin
Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.

2001 Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville,
Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of
World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the
Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered
2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa.,
and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See
September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)

2002 June 14, Karachi, Pakistan: bomb exploded outside American
consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12. Linked to al-Qaeda.

2003 May 12, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: suicide bombers killed 34,
including eight Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners.
Al-Qaeda suspected.

2004 May 29-31, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists attack the
offices of a Saudi oil company in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, take
foreign oil workers hostage in a nearby residential compound,
leaving 22 people dead including one American.
June 11-19, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia: terrorists kidnap and execute
Paul Johnson Jr., an American, in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
Dec. 6, Jiddah, Saudi Arabia: terrorists storm the U.S. consulate
killing 5 before being subdued by Saudi security who killed five
of the militants.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
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So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.

 

In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515@clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"

 

[T Wake]

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515@clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war.

Really? So all the "Rules of War" apply then?

Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of
them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British were
terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war."

The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on
Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.)

 

[Homer J Simpson]

"T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> wrote in message
news:c7WdncygLPPv3r3YRVnytQ@pipex.net...

Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of
them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British
were terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war."

The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on
Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.)

It's the Yanks that do that. They like the sound of it. They COULD have a
"War on Stupidity" but Bush (and Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice) would be SO the
wrong persons to lead THAT.

 

In article <c7WdncygLPPv3r3YRVnytQ@pipex.net>, "T Wake" <usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> writes:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515@clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war.

Really? So all the "Rules of War" apply then?

The rules of war apply to those who themselves apply the rules of war.

Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of
them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British were
terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war."

I'll say again, it is a war, refusing to recognize it as such will not
make it go away.

The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on
Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.)

Indeed, quite true. Yet, in this case, it is a real war.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"

 

[John Fields]

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson"
<nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.

---
I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're
pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem.

You are insane.


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer

 

[Homer J Simpson]

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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Indeed, quite true. Yet, in this case, it is a real war.

What is the uniform of the other side and how do you distinguish them from
the non combatants?

-- In 1209, Pope Innocent III launched an armed crusade against Albigenses
Christians in southern France. When the besieged city of Beziers fell,
soldiers reportedly asked their papal adviser how to distinguish the
faithful from the infidel among the captives. He commanded: "Kill them all.
God will know his own." Nearly 20,000 were slaughtered -- many first
blinded, mutilated, dragged behind horses, or used for target practice.

 

[Eeyore]

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

It's not a meaningful war since the 'enemy' isn't an identifiable entity but a 'view'.

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

John Fields wrote:

On Sun, 01 Oct 2006 22:14:02 GMT, "Homer J Simpson" wrote:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war. It is a problem for a police force that requires
international cooperation, something the US is notoriously unable or
unwilling to be involved in.

---
I see. You think that we've isolated ourselves and that we're
pursuing a strictly military solution to the problem.

It looks pretty military to me for sure.

Graham

 

[T Wake]

<mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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In article <c7WdncygLPPv3r3YRVnytQ@pipex.net>, "T Wake"
usenet.es7at@gishpuppy.com> writes:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu> wrote in message
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In article <K4XTg.7154$N4.5515@clgrps12>, "Homer J Simpson"
nobody@nowhere.com> writes:

"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message
news:00c0i29vn31ejl71pku1d0r1nfaevj6p4i@4ax.com...

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war.

Really? So all the "Rules of War" apply then?

The rules of war apply to those who themselves apply the rules of war.

That is a cop out.

Declaring "War on Terror" was an interesting soundbite and has generated
lots of publicity for the campaign to reduce the threat of international
Islamic-inspired terrorism.

However, it has some major drawbacks. Mainly, it is not a "war" that can
ever be won. Ever.

Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

Calling it a war legitimizes the terrorists and stops people thinking of
them as criminals who should be punished. For thirty years the British
were
terrorized by Irish Republicans, it was never called a "war."

I'll say again, it is a war, refusing to recognize it as such will not
make it go away.

I disagree. It is not a war. This is not a case of "refusing to recognise it
as such." Wars are wars. Soldiers are notoriously bad at fighting terrorism.
Terrorists are criminals.

When fighting a "war" there are methods and tactics that are different to
fighting terrorism. You combat terrorists with intelligence-led police work.
You fight wars with tanks.

Giving it the title "War" may sound cool and exciting but it is inaccurate.
No amount of wishful thinking will change that.

Calling it a war will not make it go away. Fighting terror as a war will not
make it go away and is less likely to produce a "victory."

The western world bandies the term "war" around much too easily. (War on
Terror, War on Drugs, War on Obesity etc.)

Indeed, quite true. Yet, in this case, it is a real war.

Again. I disagree. The conflict in Iraq and Afghanistan is a real war. The
activity at airports and train stations is not a war.

 

In article <45205022.CCB68B6B@hotmail.com>, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> writes:

mmeron@cars3.uchicago.edu wrote:

"Homer J Simpson" <nobody@nowhere.com> writes:
"Gordon" <gordonlr@DELETEswbell.net> wrote in message

So you are saying they are NOT better Xtians than everyone else?

No, I'm saying that this war on terrorism started long before
President Bush and the present Republican administration was
involved in any way.

But it isn't a war.

It is a war. Refusing to recognize it as such will not make it go
away.

It's not a meaningful war since the 'enemy' isn't an identifiable entity but a 'view'.

That just makes it a far worse and more dangerous war.

Mati Meron | "When you argue with a fool,
meron@cars.uchicago.edu | chances are he is doing just the same"