JCM2000 DSL100

"dave the stinking cunt"


I found this page that details the many problems techs have found with
these
Marshalls.

http://www.lynx.net/~jc/TSL122.html

Quote from Malcolm:

" I have just been visiting your web site and had a look at your
attempts
to deal with one of the most diabolical amps ever to see the light of
day.

My advice to anyone given one of these thing to fix - drop it like a hot
potato and run in the opposite direction. These things were doomed the
moment they left the factory " .

Says it all really.

Or read the article you showed us, which doesn't really say to give up,

** Malcolm does not say that either, you stinking trolling moron.





..... Phil
 
"dave the trolling cunt "


> Read the last 2 letters on Phil's link.

** Don't waste your time.

The bias problem is on the Overdrive board.

** Like hell it is.



.... Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:bm1es4Ft85pU1@mid.individual.net...
"Gareth Magennis = Liar"

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later metal
film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


... Phil


Oh I see what you did there Phil, you changed this:

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's link
is to be believed, so possibly a combination of problems, not a single one.



To this:

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


For one who is always complaining about snipping and changing the context,
that takes the biscuit.

You lying snipping changing the context Marsupial's dirty unwiped arse.



Cheers,


Gareth.
 
"Gareth Magennis" <sound.service@btconnect.com> wrote in message
news:gIqdndJVuamLFWbPnZ2dnUVZ8sudnZ2d@bt.com...
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:bm1es4Ft85pU1@mid.individual.net...

"Gareth Magennis = Liar"

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later
metal film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


... Phil




Oh I see what you did there Phil, you changed this:

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's link
is to be believed, so possibly a combination of problems, not a single
one.



To this:

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,



For one who is always complaining about snipping and changing the context,
that takes the biscuit.

You lying snipping changing the context Marsupial's dirty unwiped arse.



Cheers,


Gareth.

Which kind of proves "Malcolm" is talking a load of bollocks then.



Gareth.
 
"Gareth Magennis = Stinking Liar"

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later
metal film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's link
is to be believed,

** Utter crap.

Some people who posted in that link HAVE worked out the real problem, ie
the PCB itself - but others ( having never seen anything like it before)
fell for red herrings.

Such a weird fault is bound to cause confusion among valve amp techs - most
of whom are not very bright .

Like you.

BTW:

Try learning Ohms Law you stinking pommy LIAR !!!!




.... Phil
 
"Nutcase Kook the Fuckwit Pommy Nut Case "

Knowing how precious some guitarists are, I'd rather mechanically adapt
the original board rather than swap out to what may or may not be a
sound-wise eqivalent replacement board.

** Why were you not aborted ?
 
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:bm1g4nFtgjuU1@mid.individual.net...
"Gareth Magennis = Stinking Liar"


In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later
metal film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's
link
is to be believed,

** Utter crap.

Some people who posted in that link HAVE worked out the real problem, ie
the PCB itself - but others ( having never seen anything like it before)
fell for red herrings.

Such a weird fault is bound to cause confusion among valve amp techs -
most of whom are not very bright .

Like you.

BTW:

Try learning Ohms Law you stinking pommy LIAR !!!!




... Phil

I learnt that once before and its a bit boring. Murphys law is a little
more interesting.

And by the way I see you have just repeated the snipped and contex changed
post of mine above.
That's not very sporting, now is it?


You stinking half dried up pool of Wallaby vomit.



Cheers,


Gareth.
 
"Gareth Magennis = Stinking Liar"

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later
metal film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------


In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's link
is to be believed,

** Utter crap.

Some people who posted in that link HAVE worked out the real problem, ie
the PCB itself - but others ( having never seen anything like it before)
fell for red herrings.

Such a weird fault is bound to cause confusion among valve amp techs - most
of whom are not very bright .

While other are complete fuckwits - like you.

BTW:

Try learning Ohms Law you stinking pommy LIAR !!!!

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


BTW2:

You drunk ?

You sure sound like you are.



.... Phil
 
"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:bm1h61FtnbbU1@mid.individual.net...
"Gareth Magennis = Stinking Liar"


In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value
and possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted,


** Regular carbon film types were fitted to early examples and later
metal film - neither were the culprits.

The first and worst case I saw ( a TSL 122 ) used metal film types.

FYI, fuckwit:

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------




In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's
link
is to be believed,

** Utter crap.

Some people who posted in that link HAVE worked out the real problem, ie
the PCB itself - but others ( having never seen anything like it before)
fell for red herrings.

Such a weird fault is bound to cause confusion among valve amp techs -
most
of whom are not very bright .

While other are complete fuckwits - like you.

BTW:

Try learning Ohms Law you stinking pommy LIAR !!!!

NTC resistors in the bias feed would have HELPED the problem.


BTW2:

You drunk ?

You sure sound like you are.



... Phil


No Phil, I don't drink during the day at work, you can do as you please.


By the way, read my post again. You know, the one you snipped. It says:

In this case the problem may have been exacerbated by incorrect value and
possibly temperature co-efficient type of resistors fitted, if Phil's
link
is to be believed,

I never mentioned NTC resistors at all. I quickly read that page before
going to work this morning and merely re-iterated that Malcolm seemed to
think the wrong type had been fitted.

Which is exactly what I said.


You lying content changing Fuckwit.



Cheers,


Gareth.
 
On 02/12/2014 06:35 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
"dave the stinking cunt"


I found this page that details the many problems techs have found with
these
Marshalls.

http://www.lynx.net/~jc/TSL122.html

Quote from Malcolm:

" I have just been visiting your web site and had a look at your
attempts
to deal with one of the most diabolical amps ever to see the light of
day.

My advice to anyone given one of these thing to fix - drop it like a hot
potato and run in the opposite direction. These things were doomed the
moment they left the factory " .

Says it all really.

Or read the article you showed us, which doesn't really say to give up,


** Malcolm does not say that either, you stinking trolling moron.





.... Phil
I don't know Malcolm. The last couple letters are from someone else I
think. Or maybe not. It's not important. I've only had a couple of those
on my bench and aside from the general cheapness certainly no worse than
many other amps. Now I am in an arid climate 25.6 miles from the sea, so
that may be why I haven't noticed any 500 VDC HV peter tracks.
 
"dave" wrote in message
news:wLCdneJfmd9-eWbPnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@earthlink.com...

On 02/12/2014 06:35 AM, Phil Allison wrote:
"dave the stinking cunt"


I found this page that details the many problems techs have found with
these
Marshalls.

http://www.lynx.net/~jc/TSL122.html

Quote from Malcolm:

" I have just been visiting your web site and had a look at your
attempts
to deal with one of the most diabolical amps ever to see the light of
day.

My advice to anyone given one of these thing to fix - drop it like a
hot
potato and run in the opposite direction. These things were doomed the
moment they left the factory " .

Says it all really.

Or read the article you showed us, which doesn't really say to give up,


** Malcolm does not say that either, you stinking trolling moron.





.... Phil
I don't know Malcolm. The last couple letters are from someone else I
think. Or maybe not. It's not important. I've only had a couple of those
on my bench and aside from the general cheapness certainly no worse than
many other amps. Now I am in an arid climate 25.6 miles from the sea, so
that may be why I haven't noticed any 500 VDC HV peter tracks.





I've had a little bit more time to look at that web page now.

Seems to me about a lot of so called Engineers blowing their own trumpets
and becoming Superheroes for sorting it out.
But actually not really.


The first time I came across this problem, I was totally confused. What I
was seeing could not logically be happening.
I changed everything in the Output stage, but still the same symptoms.
Eventually I phoned Marshall, and spoke to one of their techs, who informed
me that yes, there was a problem with the PCB's, and yes, I should replace
it with a re-designed one.

All admitted by Marshall up front, job done, sorted.



Seems this problem is more about Ego's, than simply looking at the problem,
finding the solution, and implementing it at the least possible cost.



The best post on the site I found was this one, which kind of sums up what I
have experienced perfectly.

http://imageshack.com/a/img545/362/4pvn.jpg


Most everything else is all Me Me Me.
 
Do you realize that when you so viciously attack people who disagree with you
(whether they're right or wrong), you destroy the atmosphere needed for an
intelligent conversation?
 

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