I've dumped Linux and moved to Windows XP.

David Sutherland wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 19:30:11 GMT, "Diogenes"
diogenes@crete.org.net.com> wrote:

David Sutherland wrote:

You are a cunt. But then, you already knew that.


Whoa! That's pretty strong, isn't it?

The in-duh-vidual known as Kadaitcha is not exactly without a history
on usenet.
No shit, Sherlock? I've been trolling usenet since before the internet was
invented, so yeah, I have a history.

<snort>

Rick Mather gets exactly what he asks for.
I don't ask for anything. I give it away freely. Here, have a freebie...

You're a fuckhead.

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=kadaitcha+man&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=20030908171329.18258.00000533%40mb-m13.aol.com&rnum=9

He doesn't have the balls to present a real email address, and shits
all over those who think
Erm... don't look now, you total fucktard, but the mail address in the
headers is 100% kosher, unmunged even. So, you were deluding yourselfabout
my not using a real mail address.

So, you want to bring balls into this, eh? Ok, fucktard, you don't have the
balls to use an unmunged mail address whereas I do.

it's good manners to present a real face to
the world.
So, usenet is the real world, is it? When did you last have a distemper
shot?

Why should I care what I say to him?
A) Because you wrote it.

B) Because your statement about not using a real mail address shows you to
be a fuckwitted and delusional oaf.

C) There are many other reasons, but you should be getting the general idea
that you're a fucking moron.

I might as well feel
sympathy for dog shit.
Go on then. I dare you to.

**** FUCKWIT OF THE WEEK AWARD ***

Awarded to David Sutherland david@sutherda.my-bulldog.com for the following
delusion:

"He doesn't have the balls to present a real email address"

<aside>
He really ought to see a doctor about a referal for his obvious mental
illnesses.
 
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:

He doesn't have the balls to present a real email address,

His email address is in every one of his posts.
A real, 100% kosher, and unmunged mail address at that. Delusion knows no
bounds, eh.

You seem angry about
something.
He likes to give it but he can't take it. If he was worth the effort of a
scroll down, I'd copy the text from his post and show you, but he's not so I
won't.
 
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap. Sad.

A closet Jaytard.
Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that the Jaytard
rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect that the one who calls
himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod Trole.

--
Diogenes
 
David Sutherland wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 21:32:53 GMT, "Diogenes"
diogenes@crete.org.net.com> wrote:

David Sutherland wrote:

He doesn't have the balls to present a real email address,

His email address is in every one of his posts. You seem angry about
something.

Try mailing him at his "nospam" address - see how far you get.
Ok, so you really are so pathetically stupid that you can't even send a
simple email. Are you a linuxfuck as well, you dumb cunt?

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Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.
 
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap. Sad.
A closet Jaytard.
 
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap. Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that the
Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect that
the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod Trole.
That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who knows my
real name.
 
David Sutherland wrote:

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 11:13:08 +0200, MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote:


David Sutherland wrote:


On Mon, 21 Jun 2004 09:44:40 +0200, MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote:



Curtis Bass wrote:


MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rjyw9$8eU@news.consultron.ca>...



[snip]



So long as you make it clear (as did GITM) that such support is an
add-on then you can make that claim. No-one is going to dispute it.

Great.


Your problems start when you lie about what is in the box. Actually,
that sentence works in your case by dropping everything after the word
"lie"....

That sentence works for you too. And does very well.



Care to substantiate that claim? I've got all my evidence lined up
right here....



Cheers,
Martin

* Quotation marks not used so that someone hopefully isn't going to get
confused again.



Confused about what, Martin? Is there a specific issue of
misrepresentation that you have in mind? ROTFLMAO.

Must it always be someone's quotation when a text is in quotation marks,
David? LOL


So you would rather *not* go into the details? Wonder why.
ROTFLMAO.
You'd better thank me that I'm not going into details much. Revealing
more about the dumb idea of yours that it must be always a quote in
quotations marks would make you look silly. :)

Cheers,
Martin

Regards,
David Sutherland
(note **ANTI-SPAM** in reply field)
 
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap. Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that the
Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect that
the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.
....and address.
--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.
 
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap.
Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that the
Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect that
the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.

...and address.
The urgency of the need for your demise just skyrocketed.
 
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap.
Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that
the Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect
that the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod
Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.

...and address.

The urgency of the need for your demise just skyrocketed.
PMSL

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.
 
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap.
Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that
the Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect
that the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod
Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.

...and address.

The urgency of the need for your demise just skyrocketed.
If I held out against the Jaytard and his 'friends' you shouldn't worry.
Afterall, he was an Internet Researcher and Sleuth.

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.
 
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap.
Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that
the Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly suspect
that the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really Teh Ghod
Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.

...and address.

The urgency of the need for your demise just skyrocketed.

If I held out against the Jaytard and his 'friends' you shouldn't
worry.
Are you asking for a bribe, buddy?

Afterall, he was an Internet Researcher and Sleuth.
He claimed to be a reseach [sic] professional.

Besides, I might plan to do you in the same way as I've been doing Keyser
in.
 
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
relic wrote:
Kadaitcha Man wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
David Sutherland wrote:
Diogenes wrote:
Clifton Alim wrote:

Yes, David Sutherland is a fuckwit.

He also seems 'disturbed'. Like an individual about to snap.
Sad.

A closet Jaytard.

Had he done his research properly, he would have discovered that
the Jaytard rid the internet of Kadaitcha Man. I strongly
suspect that the one who calls himself Kadaitcha Man is really
Teh Ghod Trole.

That reminds me. I still have to kill relic. He's the only one who
knows my real name.

...and address.

The urgency of the need for your demise just skyrocketed.

If I held out against the Jaytard and his 'friends' you shouldn't
worry.

Are you asking for a bribe, buddy?

Afterall, he was an Internet Researcher and Sleuth.

He claimed to be a reseach [sic] professional.

Besides, I might plan to do you in the same way as I've been doing
Keyser in.
Keyser probably deserves it.

--
- relic -
Don't take life too seriously, You won't get out alive.
 
terrry_porter@yahoo.com (Terry Porter) wrote in message news:<4a77b8e8.0405231915.6675f43e@posting.google.com>...
Sorry, but after years of using Linux and trumpeting it's advantages,
I have tried some Windows circuit board design software and quite
honestly there is really no comparison between the Windows software
and the somewhat crude, though functional, Linux software.
Rather than waste the groups time, I just thought I would say that
Windows is actually a pretty good system and I have none of the
compatability problems with clients that I had when I was using Linux.
Linux is great, but Windows is far superior.
Terry Porter
Yea, yea, thats the ticket. "Terry Porter" posted that message.

Dork.
 
MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rmQKQ$8dh@news.consultron.ca>...
Curtis Bass wrote:
MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rjyw9$8eU@news.consultron.ca>...

David Sutherland wrote:

On 16 Jun 2004 07:37:41 -0700, mmi@nautimail.com (MMI) wrote:


The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@aurigae.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in message news:<7hu3q1-drn.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>...


[snip]



Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.

Out of the box? Surely not before Windows 95.



Guess that reading his next sentence was just waaaay too much trouble
for you.

No. If "something has support for some doodad" then I expect it to have
that out of the box, not that I am to hunt the net for some 3rd party SW
suite.


What you "expect" is irrelevant -- The Ghost In The Machine never
claimed that Windows had "out of the box" TCP/IP support, and, whether
you like it or not, 3rd party support is just as legitimate and
relevant as "out of the box" support.

Great. Will remeber the last one. :)

But great, from this time on, I can say that OS/2 had let's say
NFS support from the 2.x (1992-1993) times.


If it's actually true, then yes, absolutely.


Great. And don't tell me you
didn't find any in your OS/2 box. :)


It doesn't seem to be an issue with anybody but you . . .


Or we can agree that "has support" means "out-of-the box" and then I'll
shut up about let's say NFS for OS/2, but I'll be right about Trumpet
Winsock... You can choose...


Sure, you can be "right" about Trumpet WinSock if we all adopt your
pet meaning of "support", but that is rather unlikely, considering
that your pet meaning is itself wrong.

OK, I will adopt the 'right' meaning, why not. It allows me now to say
that OS/2 has a local multiuser and a local security support (not
HPFS386 related), because there is a 3rd party product that does that.
How do you like it?
I have no problem with it, as long as you are clear that the support
is 3rd party, just as The Ghost In The Machine was:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=7hu3q1-drn.ln1%40lexi2.athghost7038suus.net&output=gplain

"Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.
(Trumpet Winsock was a 3rd party addon product
that filled the bill in the 3.1 days.)"

The Ghost In The Machine -- June 15, 2004

It's easy to assume vendor (out of the box) support, as you did, but
the problem is that you went into an "out of the box" rant in spite of
The Ghost In The Machine's clarification that the support he was
talking about was indeed 3rd party, and now it seems you have a desire
to mislead people into thinking that OS/2 has out of the box
multi-user and file system security support.

Multiuser-OS/2-plus-local-security* (protecting files and
directories by UID/PSWD) according to your 'right' definition?
It ain't "my" right definition -- it's just _the_ right definition.

I just can't wait until some of you comes here into COOA ranting about
NT's local security and OS/2's lack of it. :)
Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security and
multi-user access, and the 3rd party add-on that provides it is a beta
port of Linux code. Which, of course, leads to the obvious question:

Why not just use Linux, instead of porting all of this Linux/GNU code
over to the OS/2 kernel?


Curtis
 
In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Curtis Bass
<cmbass_us@yahoo.com>
wrote
on 23 Jun 2004 08:42:45 -0700
<163715e7.0406230742.43a6f4d1@posting.google.com>:
MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rmQKQ$8dh@news.consultron.ca>...
Curtis Bass wrote:
MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rjyw9$8eU@news.consultron.ca>...

David Sutherland wrote:

On 16 Jun 2004 07:37:41 -0700, mmi@nautimail.com (MMI) wrote:


The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@aurigae.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in message news:<7hu3q1-drn.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>...


[snip]



Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.

Out of the box? Surely not before Windows 95.



Guess that reading his next sentence was just waaaay too much trouble
for you.

No. If "something has support for some doodad" then I expect it to have
that out of the box, not that I am to hunt the net for some 3rd party SW
suite.


What you "expect" is irrelevant -- The Ghost In The Machine never
claimed that Windows had "out of the box" TCP/IP support, and, whether
you like it or not, 3rd party support is just as legitimate and
relevant as "out of the box" support.

Great. Will remeber the last one. :)

But great, from this time on, I can say that OS/2 had let's say
NFS support from the 2.x (1992-1993) times.


If it's actually true, then yes, absolutely.


Great. And don't tell me you
didn't find any in your OS/2 box. :)


It doesn't seem to be an issue with anybody but you . . .


Or we can agree that "has support" means "out-of-the box" and then I'll
shut up about let's say NFS for OS/2, but I'll be right about Trumpet
Winsock... You can choose...


Sure, you can be "right" about Trumpet WinSock if we all adopt your
pet meaning of "support", but that is rather unlikely, considering
that your pet meaning is itself wrong.

OK, I will adopt the 'right' meaning, why not. It allows me now to say
that OS/2 has a local multiuser and a local security support (not
HPFS386 related), because there is a 3rd party product that does that.
How do you like it?

I have no problem with it, as long as you are clear that the support
is 3rd party, just as The Ghost In The Machine was:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=7hu3q1-drn.ln1%40lexi2.athghost7038suus.net&output=gplain

"Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.
(Trumpet Winsock was a 3rd party addon product
that filled the bill in the 3.1 days.)"

The Ghost In The Machine -- June 15, 2004

It's easy to assume vendor (out of the box) support, as you did, but
the problem is that you went into an "out of the box" rant in spite of
The Ghost In The Machine's clarification that the support he was
talking about was indeed 3rd party, and now it seems you have a desire
to mislead people into thinking that OS/2 has out of the box
multi-user and file system security support.

Multiuser-OS/2-plus-local-security* (protecting files and
directories by UID/PSWD) according to your 'right' definition?

It ain't "my" right definition -- it's just _the_ right definition.

I just can't wait until some of you comes here into COOA ranting about
NT's local security and OS/2's lack of it. :)

Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security and
multi-user access, and the 3rd party add-on that provides it is a beta
port of Linux code. Which, of course, leads to the obvious question:

Why not just use Linux, instead of porting all of this Linux/GNU code
over to the OS/2 kernel?
I for one would think that obvious, if somewhat limiting, since one
can also flip the question (you'll see how in a moment).

Obviously, OS/2 has some utilities that the individual likes. I've
heard good things about their workshell (I forget the exact name),
for example.

The flipped question, obviously, is why those couldn't be ported to Linux.
I do not know the answer to that, as I'm not familiar enough with OS/2.


--
#191, ewill3@earthlink.net
It's still legal to go .sigless.
 
On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 15:42:45 UTC, cmbass_us@yahoo.com (Curtis Bass) wrote:

Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security (...)
When will you ever learn, Curtis? Out of the box, OS/2 does have some security
which, when applied, also secures the file system. We have been over this
before, so why do you persist in short-changing OS/2?

--
Best regards
Sten Solberg

.... Also sprach Zarathustra: "Have a Good Day!"
 
Curtis Bass wrote:

MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rmQKQ$8dh@news.consultron.ca>...

Curtis Bass wrote:

MMI <mmi@nautimail.com> wrote in message news:<c1.2b5.2rjyw9$8eU@news.consultron.ca>...


David Sutherland wrote:


On 16 Jun 2004 07:37:41 -0700, mmi@nautimail.com (MMI) wrote:



The Ghost In The Machine <ewill@aurigae.athghost7038suus.net> wrote in message news:<7hu3q1-drn.ln1@lexi2.athghost7038suus.net>...


[snip]




Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.

Out of the box? Surely not before Windows 95.



Guess that reading his next sentence was just waaaay too much trouble
for you.

No. If "something has support for some doodad" then I expect it to have
that out of the box, not that I am to hunt the net for some 3rd party SW
suite.


What you "expect" is irrelevant -- The Ghost In The Machine never
claimed that Windows had "out of the box" TCP/IP support, and, whether
you like it or not, 3rd party support is just as legitimate and
relevant as "out of the box" support.

Great. Will remeber the last one. :)


But great, from this time on, I can say that OS/2 had let's say
NFS support from the 2.x (1992-1993) times.


If it's actually true, then yes, absolutely.



Great. And don't tell me you
didn't find any in your OS/2 box. :)


It doesn't seem to be an issue with anybody but you . . .



Or we can agree that "has support" means "out-of-the box" and then I'll
shut up about let's say NFS for OS/2, but I'll be right about Trumpet
Winsock... You can choose...


Sure, you can be "right" about Trumpet WinSock if we all adopt your
pet meaning of "support", but that is rather unlikely, considering
that your pet meaning is itself wrong.

OK, I will adopt the 'right' meaning, why not. It allows me now to say
that OS/2 has a local multiuser and a local security support (not
HPFS386 related), because there is a 3rd party product that does that.
How do you like it?


I have no problem with it,
Good then. Before this thread, I'd never say something like "OS/2 has
multiuser and local security support. It is made by the 3rd party."
sentences. Well now I can say that. Before, the words "OS/2 has
support," or "<anything> has support" would mean that OS/2 or that
<anything> would have to support it on its own. And that really means
out-of-the-box.

as long as you are clear that the support
is 3rd party, just as The Ghost In The Machine was:

http://www.google.com/groups?selm=7hu3q1-drn.ln1%40lexi2.athghost7038suus.net&output=gplain

"Windows had TCP/IP stack support back in *'89*.
(Trumpet Winsock was a 3rd party addon product
that filled the bill in the 3.1 days.)"

The Ghost In The Machine -- June 15, 2004

It's easy to assume vendor (out of the box) support, as you did, but
the problem is that you went into an "out of the box" rant in spite of
The Ghost In The Machine's clarification that the support he was
talking about was indeed 3rd party, and now it seems you have a desire
to mislead people into thinking that OS/2 has out of the box
multi-user and file system security support.
And now it seems you know me better than I do, which of course, is
impossible. Kinda sutherlandish, but I can live with that.

Multiuser-OS/2-plus-local-security* (protecting files and
directories by UID/PSWD) according to your 'right' definition?

It ain't "my" right definition -- it's just _the_ right definition.
Alright, I accept that.

I just can't wait until some of you comes here into COOA ranting about
NT's local security and OS/2's lack of it. :)


Well, out of the box, OS/2 does lack local file system security and
multi-user access, and the 3rd party add-on that provides it is a beta
port of Linux code.
Anything to support this claim (about beta port of Linux code)? Because
AFAIK the only things that look like Linux in that product is the "su"
command, using the "passwd" file with similar structure, and perhaps
"etc" directory. The rest is quite different, for example the driver
that uses security hooks in the Warp 4+ kernel, which is, and you're
surely not going to argue that, quite a different beast from the Linux
kernel. Then there is multiuser process concept, but that is common to
all multiuser systems, even NT. And don't forget, that software does
have more "actions" to disable or enable than typical Linux rwx-rwx-rwx
"holy trinity" of attributes :)

Which, of course, leads to the obvious question:
How are you going to support that claim of yours?

Why not just use Linux,
You know, I have Linux on my secondary machine. And well, "Linux is not
quite there yet" from my point of view. I'll wait for some more years to
come. Then I may switch.

instead of porting all of this Linux/GNU code
over to the OS/2 kernel?
I dunno, first I've got to see the support of your claim.

Cheers,
Martin

 

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