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What kind of shoelaces should I use?

My shoes still have their original shoelaces, boots really. Now after
I've worn them for a few years the laces are worn out and I need new ones.

I would like to find the exact laces but they are no longer made. The
originals were made of catgut and of course getting catgut laces would
be tough now. I could try and find NOS catgut laces, but I don't really
have good internet access unless I go to Caribou, and the coffee is
sooooo expensive there. And apparently sattelite internet doesn't work
in my sky. So I get my access over telegraph lines, via Morse Code, and
it's really slow. I thought you guys might be able to tell me where to
find NOS catgut laces.
I don't want the cheap Chinese catgut. I want good old 'Merican catgut.
If I can't find catgut, what else should I try? What about length? If I
can't find the exact length, should I get longer or shorter laces?
Longer might mean tripping over them, but I could at least double knot
them. Shorter might make them hard to tie.

I don't like fabric laces because they don't look right in old boots.
Maybe I could find leather laces. Maybe I should try to re-stuff my old
cagut laces with new fabric inside. I don't think I trust fabric laces
anyway, how do I know they aren't really just string painted to look
like fabric? And is leather really any different than catgut?
What is the failure mode for catgut laces anyway? Has it got something
to do with animal rights? How can I tell when my laces are worn out? Do
they have to break? Or is just fraying enough to call them bad? What if
they are just thin in spots? How thin do they have to get before I know
they are bad? I tried to ohm them out but, but my meter just keeps
telling me "---" which I guess means 0 ohms, they must be shorted. I'll
add a resistor when I re-install.

If only one lace is worn out, should I replace both?
What is this google thing of which you speak?

I'm thinking of adding aglets to my laces. Those little things that go
on the end of them and keep them from fraying. I could just buy laces
with aglets, but that would be too simple. I think I'll make my own out
of Jello pudding and sawdust. Can anyone point me to an article
explaining how? Text only please.

How do you remove old laces anyway? Everytime I try, they get all
tangled in knots. And don't even THINK about putting them back in, that
could be a nightmare. Does anyone have a boot stringing diagram? Make
sure it's READABLE, so when I go to 7-11 to print it out, it's legible.
What's a PDF?

I plan to use PAM to help re-install the laces. It not only lubricates
them, but they'll smell like butter and the dogs in the neighborhood
will all love me.

Thank you Terry.

--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
 
On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 10:07:28 AM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
What kind of shoelaces should I use?

My shoes still have their original shoelaces, boots really. Now after
I've worn them for a few years the laces are worn out and I need new ones.

I would like to find the exact laces but they are no longer made. The
originals were made of catgut and of course getting catgut laces would
be tough now. I could try and find NOS catgut laces, but I don't really
have good internet access unless I go to Caribou, and the coffee is
sooooo expensive there. And apparently sattelite internet doesn't work
in my sky. So I get my access over telegraph lines, via Morse Code, and
it's really slow. I thought you guys might be able to tell me where to
find NOS catgut laces.
I don't want the cheap Chinese catgut. I want good old 'Merican catgut.
If I can't find catgut, what else should I try? What about length? If I
can't find the exact length, should I get longer or shorter laces?
Longer might mean tripping over them, but I could at least double knot
them. Shorter might make them hard to tie.

I don't like fabric laces because they don't look right in old boots.
Maybe I could find leather laces. Maybe I should try to re-stuff my old
cagut laces with new fabric inside. I don't think I trust fabric laces
anyway, how do I know they aren't really just string painted to look
like fabric? And is leather really any different than catgut?
What is the failure mode for catgut laces anyway? Has it got something
to do with animal rights? How can I tell when my laces are worn out? Do
they have to break? Or is just fraying enough to call them bad? What if
they are just thin in spots? How thin do they have to get before I know
they are bad? I tried to ohm them out but, but my meter just keeps
telling me "---" which I guess means 0 ohms, they must be shorted. I'll
add a resistor when I re-install.

If only one lace is worn out, should I replace both?
What is this google thing of which you speak?

I'm thinking of adding aglets to my laces. Those little things that go
on the end of them and keep them from fraying. I could just buy laces
with aglets, but that would be too simple. I think I'll make my own out
of Jello pudding and sawdust. Can anyone point me to an article
explaining how? Text only please.

How do you remove old laces anyway? Everytime I try, they get all
tangled in knots. And don't even THINK about putting them back in, that
could be a nightmare. Does anyone have a boot stringing diagram? Make
sure it's READABLE, so when I go to 7-11 to print it out, it's legible.
What's a PDF?

I plan to use PAM to help re-install the laces. It not only lubricates
them, but they'll smell like butter and the dogs in the neighborhood
will all love me.

Thank you Terry.

--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
Click to expand...

I would suggest ebay to find an NOS set for a lot less than you can engineer a poor copy, but I know how adverse you are to all those scammers reside there...
 
On 2019/03/29 7:07 a.m., Fox's Mercantile wrote:
What kind of shoelaces should I use?
Click to expand...

Couldn't you have waited two days?

John ;-#)#
 
On 3/29/2019 9:07 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
What kind of shoelaces should I use?

My shoes still have their original shoelaces, boots really. Now after
I've worn them for a few years the laces are worn out and I need new ones.

I would like to find the exact laces but they are no longer made. The
originals were made of catgut and of course getting catgut laces would
be tough now. I could try and find NOS catgut laces, but I don't really
have good internet access unless I go to Caribou, and the coffee is
sooooo expensive there. And apparently sattelite internet doesn't work
in my sky. So I get my access over telegraph lines, via Morse Code, and
it's really slow. I thought you guys might be able to tell me where to
find NOS catgut laces.
I don't want the cheap Chinese catgut. I want good old 'Merican catgut.
If I can't find catgut, what else should I try? What about length? If I
can't find the exact length, should I get longer or shorter laces?
Longer might mean tripping over them, but I could at least double knot
them. Shorter might make them hard to tie.

I don't like fabric laces because they don't look right in old boots.
Maybe I could find leather laces. Maybe I should try to re-stuff my old
cagut laces with new fabric inside. I don't think I trust fabric laces
anyway, how do I know they aren't really just string painted to look
like fabric? And is leather really any different than catgut?
What is the failure mode for catgut laces anyway? Has it got something
to do with animal rights? How can I tell when my laces are worn out? Do
they have to break? Or is just fraying enough to call them bad? What if
they are just thin in spots? How thin do they have to get before I know
they are bad? I tried to ohm them out but, but my meter just keeps
telling me "---" which I guess means 0 ohms, they must be shorted. I'll
add a resistor when I re-install.

If only one lace is worn out, should I replace both?
What is this google thing of which you speak?

I'm thinking of adding aglets to my laces. Those little things that go
on the end of them and keep them from fraying. I could just buy laces
with aglets, but that would be too simple. I think I'll make my own out
of Jello pudding and sawdust. Can anyone point me to an article
explaining how? Text only please.

How do you remove old laces anyway? Everytime I try, they get all
tangled in knots. And don't even THINK about putting them back in, that
could be a nightmare. Does anyone have a boot stringing diagram? Make
sure it's READABLE, so when I go to 7-11 to print it out, it's legible.
What's a PDF?

I plan to use PAM to help re-install the laces. It not only lubricates
them, but they'll smell like butter and the dogs in the neighborhood
will all love me.

Thank you Terry.
Click to expand...

There are people that don't have any shoes and here you are complaining
about what type and length of laces you should get for your boots.
Life is tough! :)
This is called a first world problem.
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 09:07:19 -0500, Fox's Mercantile <jdangus@att.net>
wrote:

>What kind of shoelaces should I use?

Sew your own. I've never done it but there are instructions on the
internet for sewing your own shoelaces:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=sew+your+own+shoelaces>
<https://www.google.com/search?q=sew+your+own+shoelaces&tbm=isch>
The trick seems to be to find a material that has enough surface
friction to not untie half way through the day, and also not turn into
the impossible to untie Gordian Knot if you double knot the bow. The
commercial shoelaces seem to have that part figured out, at least for
the cloth shoelaces.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
Velcro.

https://www.fastenation.com/products/bundling-straps/velcro-r-brand-straps-velstrapr-with-non-slip-neoprene.html

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
 
>" There are people that don't have any shoes and here you are complaining about what type and length of laces you should get for your boots."

There are people with no feet to put shoes on, and some without legs to put feet on.
 
Now people who really care about their laces should learn to tie them correctly.

Forget your degree and knowledge, there is a good chance that you are to stupid to know how to tie your shoes properly.

I shit you not. here is a tutorial on the subject;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAFcV7zuUDA

Hope this helps }:)>
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:25:30 -0700 (PDT), "pfjw@aol.com"
<peterwieck33@gmail.com> wrote:

Velcro.

https://www.fastenation.com/products/bundling-straps/velcro-r-brand-straps-velstrapr-with-non-slip-neoprene.html

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA
Click to expand...

That works fairly well, until the loops becomes clogged with crud or
until most of the hooks are broken, or the glued or sewed on edges
begin to unravel. Velco claims 20,000 cycles before it becomes
unusable. My experience is maybe 1,000 cycles if the straps become
dirty or is in some way abused. If you put your shoes on and off once
per day, that 365 cycles per year. 2,000 cycles would be about 6
years, which is longer than my "casual" shoes tend to last. If the
shoes are subject to UV exposure, nylon UV embrittlement will cause
even more broken loops and hooks, thus shortening its useful life even
more.

Maintaining Staying Power for Velcro Ž Brand Fasteners
<https://hookandloop.com/blog/maintaining-staying-power-for-velcro-brand-fasteners/>

US army dumps Velcro for buttons
<https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7831702/Casualty-of-war-US-army-dumps-Velcro-for-buttons.html>


--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:15:05 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 3/29/2019 9:07 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
What kind of shoelaces should I use?

My shoes still have their original shoelaces, boots really. Now after
I've worn them for a few years the laces are worn out and I need new ones.
Click to expand...

<- big noise dnip ->

There are people that don't have any shoes and here you are complaining
about what type and length of laces you should get for your boots.
Click to expand...

.... in an electronics repair usenet newsgroup.
 
On 3/29/2019 9:21 PM, Allodoxaphobia wrote:
On Fri, 29 Mar 2019 11:15:05 -0500, amdx wrote:
On 3/29/2019 9:07 AM, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
What kind of shoelaces should I use?

My shoes still have their original shoelaces, boots really. Now after
I've worn them for a few years the laces are worn out and I need new ones.

- big noise dnip -

There are people that don't have any shoes and here you are complaining
about what type and length of laces you should get for your boots.

.... in an electronics repair usenet newsgroup.
Click to expand...

hmm, from my point of view, many people are poor money managers.
But very good consumers.
My comment was tongue in cheek though.
 
Terry posted this originally a few years back, as a satire of
having to read oldschool's postings.

After reading tubeguy's postings I thought it was appropriate.

--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
 
On 30/03/2019 10:53 am, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
Terry posted this originally a few years back, as a satire of
having to read oldschool's postings.

After reading tubeguy's postings I thought it was appropriate.
Click to expand...

Ahh that explains it, I was wondering about the post now I can see the
reasoning!
 
On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 10:53:58 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
Terry posted this originally a few years back, as a satire of
having to read oldschool's postings.

After reading tubeguy's postings I thought it was appropriate.
Click to expand...

Not just oldfool's posts, but there are others here who go through Rube Goldberg lengths to solve a problem that would best be fixed by buying a new one at one half or less the cost.
 
On 30-3-2019 11:36, John-Del wrote:
On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 10:53:58 PM UTC-4, Fox's Mercantile wrote:
Terry posted this originally a few years back, as a satire of
having to read oldschool's postings.

After reading tubeguy's postings I thought it was appropriate.



Not just oldfool's posts, but there are others here who go through Rube Goldberg lengths to solve a problem that would best be fixed by buying a new one at one half or less the cost.

What are you doing in a repair newsgroup?
Click to expand...
 
On 3/31/19 4:43 PM, Terry Schwartz wrote:
:)

Thank you Terry.
Click to expand...

Some people just need to be beat repeatedly in the head with
a clue bat until they either catch on or go away.

--
"I am a river to my people."
Jeff-1.0
WA6FWi
http:foxsmercantile.com
 
..PDF is named for Portable Document Format, but it needs a free reader from www.adobe.com.

Think of it as a non-editable (not necessarily true) file containing text & graphics that is readable on almost any device.

It may contain an index and it may be searchable. It can also be password protected. It can contain forms where you can fill in information. It can also act on those fields like add them and create an answer.

PDF's are inherently safer to open.

I routinely print to PDF format and rarely print a hardcopy. e.g. An Invoice for an online order. e.g. Print this page for your records.

==

I bought laces from the auction site. Just bought boot laces. They like to become untied. Good ends and strength. Can be purchased by the inch.
 
On Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:10:41 -0700, Ron D. wrote:

.PDF is named for Portable Document Format, but it needs a free reader
from www.adobe.com.

Or you can try XPDF, free from https://www.xpdfreader.com/
Click to expand...

I use the 64 bit Linux version, but it has versions for 32 bit and 64 bit
Windows. Its a free open source program.


--
Martin | martin at
Gregorie | gregorie dot org
 
On Fri, 5 Apr 2019 01:08:48 +0000 (UTC), Martin Gregorie
<martin@mydomain.invalid> wrote:

On Thu, 04 Apr 2019 14:10:41 -0700, Ron D. wrote:

.PDF is named for Portable Document Format, but it needs a free reader
from www.adobe.com.

Or you can try XPDF, free from https://www.xpdfreader.com/

I use the 64 bit Linux version, but it has versions for 32 bit and 64 bit
Windows. Its a free open source program.
Click to expand...

Many years ago, I got tired of dealing with Adobe Acrobat bugs, hangs
and crashes. So, I switched to PDF-Xchange (free version):
<https://www.tracker-software.com/product/pdf-xchange-viewer>
which works nicely and does most of what I need. One very useful
feature is the built in OCR reader, which will convert a
non-searchable PDF into one that can be searched.

--
Jeff Liebermann jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558
 
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