It\'s Going To Take An Organizational Genius To Make This Work...

[Fred Bloggs]

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:54:33 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:

On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 1:48:57 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:02:34 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 9:15:35 AM UTC+10, Don Y wrote:
On 9/13/2022 12:06 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:17:29 AM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:
On 9/13/2022 5:23 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
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Low life politicians and other
completely out-of-touch economists and theoretician riffraff say we need
immigrants to finance social security. Really? Modern social security is
just a ploy to make as many people as possible dependent on the government,
creating a huge reservoir of voters to be exploited for political vote
buying.

Fred Bloggs is an American. In places where the politicians want social security to work, it serves a rather more useful purpose.

In Sweden the children in single parent families do just as well as children who have two parents. In the US wealth is more heritable than height, and the wealthy work hard to keep it that way.

I wouldn\'t believe a single report coming out of Europe anywhere, especially the socialist countries.
That\'s American exceptionalism for you. These place can\'t possibly be better places to live the USA and people couldn\'t possibly live longer there.
About the only thing those people are good at is lying about their wonderful achievements. In reality those so-called achievements don\'t exist at all. A lot of those places are welfare dumps, most of the people living there are little more than breathing corpses.
I\'ve never been to Sweden. My wife went there a lot, and at least one of her Dutch graduate students made his career there (after marrying his Swedish girl-friend). None of the Swedes I met looked any different from the kinds of people I was used to - they were a bit better fed than the Americans we ran into, and rather better behaved, though there wasn\'t much in it. It\'s about as far from a welfare dump as you can get.

https://www.worldometers.info/demographics/life-expectancy/

puts Sweden at 18th on life expectancy (at 83.33 years). Australia is 8th (at 83.94 years). The UK is 29th (at 81.77 years). The US is 46th (at 79.11 years). Russia is at 113th at 72.99 years. If anybody was going to lie about its statistics it would be Russia, but even they don\'t seem to bother.

Living 73 years in Russia is an eternity. Their life expectancy is probably closer to 67. Then you can\'t compare countries with a relatively homogenous demographic to others with a very inhomogenous demographic, like the U.S. And the U.S. isn\'t 79 anymore, it\'s been revised downward due to the pandemic. It is now 76.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/nchs_press_releases/2022/20220831.htm

Life expectancy is a simple abbreviation of the overall phenomenon of aging.. The standard deviation is what really tells you the distribution of the age groups. U.S. is running about 15 years.
Here\'s a quick rundown on Australian women:
https://www.actuaries.digital/2020/08/12/standard-deviation-around-life-expectancy-is-eight-years-what-this-means-for-retirees/

Here\'s additional info, more international, and more to be gleaned from standard deviations and comparing different countries.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3285408/

Those other countries with a socialist agenda will fabricate as necessary to make their failed system look better than it really is.

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Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Anthony William Sloman]

On Friday, September 16, 2022 at 12:07:31 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:

On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 10:54:33 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Thursday, September 15, 2022 at 1:48:57 AM UTC+10, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:02:34 PM UTC-4, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Wednesday, September 14, 2022 at 9:15:35 AM UTC+10, Don Y wrote:
On 9/13/2022 12:06 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Tuesday, September 13, 2022 at 10:17:29 AM UTC-4, Don Y wrote:
On 9/13/2022 5:23 AM, Fred Bloggs wrote:

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> Those other countries with a socialist agenda will fabricate as necessary to make their failed system look better than it really is.

Fred has adopted Gnatguy\'s mode of argument. If you don\'t like the data, you refuse to believe it.

Most advanced industrial countries are more \"socialist\" than the USA and rather better place to live if you aren\'t in the top 1% of the income distribution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Spirit_Level_(book)

spells it out in some detail. The authors are medical epidemiologists, and seem to be able to find data that most people regard as reliable - American exceptionalists do seem to be an exception, but if you are silly enough to think that America is the best country in the world, you can\'t be all that clever, and they don\'t seem to all that great at finding convincing arguments

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Bill Sloman, Sydney