Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard

[Unlisted]

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

 

[bitrex]

On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

It's called a BlackBerry, they were quite popular for a while in the mid
2000s.

<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYGDY4P/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b2dvpeN_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=8FPQD45QCTS6BV5TA793&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=aa5618af-4079-4e85-9f86-ebc49644b2f1&pf_rd_i=2422326011>

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

bitrex wrote:

On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


It's called a BlackBerry, they were quite popular for a while in the
mid 2000s.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYGDY4P/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b2dvpeN_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=8FPQD45QCTS6BV5TA793&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=aa5618af-4079-4e85-9f86-ebc49644b2f1&pf_rd_i=2422326011

Does the flip phone have Bluetooth? A folding or roll-up keyboard would
be easier to use. Learning how to connect it wouldn't be hard after the
first time.

 

[Rick C]

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


It's called a BlackBerry, they were quite popular for a while in the mid
2000s.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06ZYGDY4P/ref=s9_acsd_top_hd_bw_b2dvpeN_c_x_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=8FPQD45QCTS6BV5TA793&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=aa5618af-4079-4e85-9f86-ebc49644b2f1&pf_rd_i=2422326011

They used to make the equivalent of a flip phone where one half slid out from the other half hand had a full keyboard on it. The keys were very tiny and I believe they were operated using both thumbs. Probably much like the blackberry, but in a smaller case.

If you are really interested I can ask a friend who had one the make and model.

--

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[Jeff Liebermann]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com>
wrote:

>Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

See if any of these meet your requirements:
<https://www.google.com/search?q=basic+cell+phone+with+full+keyboard&tbm=isch>
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=+keyboard+phone>

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

I still use an ancient LG VX8300 dumb phone.
<https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+vx8300&tbm=isch>
The problem is that it only does 3G and will not do 4G(LTE). Most of
the new local cell sites are 4G only, so I'm having coverage issues.
Also, Verizon has indicated that it will be pulling the plug on 3G
only phones sometime this year. The other vendors will eventually do
the same. That makes investing in an antique 3G phone a rather
dubious proposition. I think you'll find service providers reluctant
to allow old phones on their systems.

If poking at the screen with your finger is a problem, but keyboard
phones a problem to find, you might want to consider a smartphone with
a stylus or pen:
<https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=smartphone+with+stylus+pen>
I ran around with an Verizon UTC/Starcom XV-6700. It had a full
keyboard and a stylus, both of which were necessary because of the
very small screen. It worked quite well for me.

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

Well, there's the "phablet" which is a conglomeration of a phone and a
tablet. I'm not sure if you want to drag these slabs of glass around
with you, but it does somewhat solve the problem.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Sounds more like a laptop with a built in phone. Those are available
with built in data modems, but few with voice capability. Of course,
you can use a data connection for VoIP (voice over IP), but it will
cost much more per minute or per byte than a conventional 4G VoLTE
voice phone.

>Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I'm 71 and have never bothered to grow up.

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Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558

 

[bitrex]

On 5/15/19 9:46 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

See if any of these meet your requirements:
https://www.google.com/search?q=basic+cell+phone+with+full+keyboard&tbm=isch
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=+keyboard+phone

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

I still use an ancient LG VX8300 dumb phone.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+vx8300&tbm=isch
The problem is that it only does 3G and will not do 4G(LTE). Most of
the new local cell sites are 4G only, so I'm having coverage issues.
Also, Verizon has indicated that it will be pulling the plug on 3G
only phones sometime this year. The other vendors will eventually do
the same. That makes investing in an antique 3G phone a rather
dubious proposition. I think you'll find service providers reluctant
to allow old phones on their systems.

If poking at the screen with your finger is a problem, but keyboard
phones a problem to find, you might want to consider a smartphone with
a stylus or pen:
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=smartphone+with+stylus+pen
I ran around with an Verizon UTC/Starcom XV-6700. It had a full
keyboard and a stylus, both of which were necessary because of the
very small screen. It worked quite well for me.

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

Well, there's the "phablet" which is a conglomeration of a phone and a
tablet. I'm not sure if you want to drag these slabs of glass around
with you, but it does somewhat solve the problem.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Sounds more like a laptop with a built in phone. Those are available
with built in data modems, but few with voice capability. Of course,
you can use a data connection for VoIP (voice over IP), but it will
cost much more per minute or per byte than a conventional 4G VoLTE
voice phone.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I'm 71 and have never bothered to grow up.

Conservatives can be astoundingly honest sometimes. Why it's almost
admirable. Alrighty then!

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

I still use an ancient LG VX8300 dumb phone.
https://www.google.com/search?q=lg+vx8300&tbm=isch
The problem is that it only does 3G and will not do 4G(LTE). Most of
the new local cell sites are 4G only, so I'm having coverage issues.
Also, Verizon has indicated that it will be pulling the plug on 3G
only phones sometime this year. The other vendors will eventually do
the same. That makes investing in an antique 3G phone a rather
dubious proposition. I think you'll find service providers reluctant
to allow old phones on their systems.

In JFK airport 3G and sometimes 2G are all that works. 4G is at least
sometimes jammed by the other emissions.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, tra...@optonline.net wrote:

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.

I have to admit I was a cell phone Ludite for a long time. I finally got one so I could have a phone that actually works when I'm at a home that has no cell service but has Internet access. A Google phone only costs me about $27 a month and I'm paying $15 a month for the phone (two years I think) and insurance. The phone is such an improvement over the flip phone. It takes some getting used to not having keys and there is a learning curve, but no worse than updating your windows version. Then there are the many improvements over a flip phone without adding apps. Texts are actually readable, voice commands (maybe that's an app) and being able to use wifi for phone calls! I would get rid of the flip phone, but it has better coverage so I'll keep it a while to see what Google does going forward.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 5,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:

On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.

 

[bitrex]

On 5/16/19 8:57 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:

On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.

Touch-screen keyboards are very difficult for some seniors to use
accurately. My late father (passed last year at 91) like the idea of
smartphones and tablets and apps plenty but just didn't have the manual
dexterity to get most capacitive touch screen devices to do what he
wanted without accidentally bumping some other key or icon than he
intended, frustrating experience.

His favorite compromise device for about a year before he passed was the
Amazon Alexa; it had very good voice-to-text algorithm and could place
calls and look stuff up on the Internet just by talking to it

 

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 9:12:01 AM UTC-4, Rick C wrote:

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 8:57:17 AM UTC-4, tra...@optonline.net wrote:
On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones..

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.

I have to admit I was a cell phone Ludite for a long time. I finally got one so I could have a phone that actually works when I'm at a home that has no cell service but has Internet access. A Google phone only costs me about $27 a month and I'm paying $15 a month for the phone (two years I think) and insurance. The phone is such an improvement over the flip phone. It takes some getting used to not having keys and there is a learning curve, but no worse than updating your windows version. Then there are the many improvements over a flip phone without adding apps. Texts are actually readable, voice commands (maybe that's an app) and being able to use wifi for phone calls! I would get rid of the flip phone, but it has better coverage so I'll keep it a while to see what Google does going forward.

--

Rick C.

+ Get 5,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

I agree. Main apps I use on my Android are web browser, news, maps, mail
and text. The alarm clock and calendar too, but less. And then there
are plenty of other apps I put on there that I use even less frequently.
Visual voicemail is cool too, where you can see a list of voicemails
waiting and pic which, if any, you want to listen to. You don't have
to wade through 3 to get to the one you really want. I use hotspot to
connect my notebook sometimes too.
But just some of that core set, I'd think most people would like if they
gave it a fair shot. Part of that could be having someone get it set up
and configured for you.

 

[John Larkin]

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com>
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I have a flip phone. It makes calls and gets calls, average about one
per day.

Simple solution is don't text. It's a nasty habit.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[bitrex]

On 5/16/19 10:58 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 10:20:15 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/16/19 8:57 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.


Touch-screen keyboards are very difficult for some seniors to use
accurately. My late father (passed last year at 91) like the idea of
smartphones and tablets and apps plenty but just didn't have the manual
dexterity to get most capacitive touch screen devices to do what he
wanted without accidentally bumping some other key or icon than he
intended, frustrating experience.

His favorite compromise device for about a year before he passed was the
Amazon Alexa; it had very good voice-to-text algorithm and could place
calls and look stuff up on the Internet just by talking to it

I have a brilliant idea: instead of texting, invent a phone that can
accept and reproduce voice messages!

I should patent that. It would save everyone so much time, and reduce
traffic deaths.

Texting is asynchronous and it's my (for the moment uncited,
un-substantiated hypothesis) that when at a distance humans naturally
prefer, psychologically, asynchronous half-duplex communication over
synchronous full-duplex.

The telegraph was slow. The telephone was an extremely popular
improvement but only because at the time it was the only faster option
than the telegraph. The instant wireless telegraph has replaced the
telephone to a large degree among younger people because they like it
better, psychologically, than the telephone.

The tech to make the video-phone as common as the telephone existed for
decades before Skype and the Internet became commonplace, it didn't
catch on because nobody really wanted it, to be always put "on the spot"
like that every time you wanted to have a conversation at a distance.

 

[Rick C]

On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 10:56:29 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I have a flip phone. It makes calls and gets calls, average about one
per day.

Simple solution is don't text. It's a nasty habit.

Nasty? Silly goose. Texts are great for simple things that you don't want to disturb someone with a phone call or you don't want to be further bothered yourself.

--

Rick C.

-- Get 5,000 miles of free Supercharging
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On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 10:56:29 AM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I have a flip phone. It makes calls and gets calls, average about one
per day.

Simple solution is don't text. It's a nasty habit.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

If someone wants to give you an address or just say they will be 15 mins
late, seems to me a text is way better. Also, if it's something where
there is benefit to it being documented, you have evidence of what you
asked and their reply. And texts arrive while you're driving, I can
then see it at any time by just picking up the phone and looking, like
when a light. Can't do that with a phone call. I can sent the same
text to a group of people. You can certainly abuse
texts to the point they get annoying, but used properly, I find them
very valuable.

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 16 May 2019 10:20:15 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 5/16/19 8:57 AM, trader4@optonline.net wrote:
On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:53:35 PM UTC-4, bitrex wrote:
On 5/15/19 6:12 PM, Unlisted wrote:
Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.


Seems an odd tradeoff to me, doing a lot of texts and suffering with a
flip-phone. What was so objectionable about an Android or iPhone?
Just because there are apps and features on it, doesn't mean you have
to use them. You could have someone set it up for you to remove as
many apps as possible, turn off notifications from those apps that
you can't remove, etc. But I bet if you gave it a fair shot, you'd find
you'd use things like maps, web browser and email. But if you don't use
the apps, it pretty much behaves like a phone with texting. And for texts
and even phone calls, the directory, call log, etc, it's a much better
than a flip-phone.


Touch-screen keyboards are very difficult for some seniors to use
accurately. My late father (passed last year at 91) like the idea of
smartphones and tablets and apps plenty but just didn't have the manual
dexterity to get most capacitive touch screen devices to do what he
wanted without accidentally bumping some other key or icon than he
intended, frustrating experience.

His favorite compromise device for about a year before he passed was the
Amazon Alexa; it had very good voice-to-text algorithm and could place
calls and look stuff up on the Internet just by talking to it

I have a brilliant idea: instead of texting, invent a phone that can
accept and reproduce voice messages!

I should patent that. It would save everyone so much time, and reduce
traffic deaths.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[John Larkin]

On Thu, 16 May 2019 12:25:05 -0400, legg <legg@nospam.magma.ca> wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 07:56:21 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I have a flip phone. It makes calls and gets calls, average about one
per day.

Simple solution is don't text. It's a nasty habit.

It's dirt cheap, potentially unambiguous, less intrusive and
encourages brevity.

RL

What it seems to encourage is 24/7 social chat.

Email is better than texting, or phone calls, or meetings for
resolving and documenting technical stuff.


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics

 

[bitrex]

On 5/16/19 12:27 PM, Tom Del Rosso wrote:

bitrex wrote:

The tech to make the video-phone as common as the telephone existed
for decades before Skype and the Internet became commonplace, it
didn't catch on because nobody really wanted it, to be always put "on
the spot" like that every time you wanted to have a conversation at a
distance.

AT&T had salesmen 100 years ago whose job was to convince people to get
a phone. One guy was very good at it so they asked him,

"What do you say to people?"

"I tell them they'll be able to talk to their neighbors in their bed
clothes."

(And I heard that from the engineer who designed the first video call.)

Or: "You know a lot of good-looking dames love to use the telephone, yeah?"

Design your "app" so the dames love it. The men will follow. I guarantee it

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

bitrex wrote:

The tech to make the video-phone as common as the telephone existed
for decades before Skype and the Internet became commonplace, it
didn't catch on because nobody really wanted it, to be always put "on
the spot" like that every time you wanted to have a conversation at a
distance.

AT&T had salesmen 100 years ago whose job was to convince people to get
a phone. One guy was very good at it so they asked him,

"What do you say to people?"

"I tell them they'll be able to talk to their neighbors in their bed
clothes."

(And I heard that from the engineer who designed the first video call.)

 

[legg]

On Thu, 16 May 2019 07:56:21 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highlandtechnology.com> wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 17:12:37 -0500, Unlisted <unlisted@nomail.com
wrote:

Is there a flip-phone made with full keyboard?

I'm elderly.
I do NOT want a smartphone. In fact I tried one and hated it. I went
back to my easy to use flip phone. My only complaint is that I send a
lot of texts, and typing on the flip-phone is a pain. Literally, my
wrist gets sore from hitting keys 4 times just to get the letter "S".

There must be something made thats halfway between a smartphone and a
flipphone.

If I had my way, it would have a full keyboard, large screen, big
letters, but be without all the unnecessary crap on the smartphones.

Smartphones are for kids, not old people.

I have a flip phone. It makes calls and gets calls, average about one
per day.

Simple solution is don't text. It's a nasty habit.

It's dirt cheap, potentially unambiguous, less intrusive and
encourages brevity.

RL