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Which has sweet fuck all to do with my internet experience being restricted"Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> wrote in message
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"Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
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Don McKenzie wrote:
Internet Speeds And Costs Around The World, Shown Visually:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/internet-speeds-and-costs-around-the-world-shown-visually/#more-362769
Be sure to click the above image to see it in its full glory.
Yes, Australia if 5th from the right hand end of the graph.
Cheers Don...
One thing you will notice about the countries with very high speed
internet - they are all small with high population. Much easier and
cheaper to provide high speed broadband to a reasonable slab of the
population in those circumstances. I wonder what level of access people
in say rural France have though. At least in Australia, most people in
major cities have access to 8MBps (although very few opt for faster than
512K), and most people in rural towns have access to 1.5MBps. Thanks to
the government assistance, people on farms etc have access to
256-512kBps via satellite which is a damned site better than what they
could get through phone lines. We still have some way to go, but
personally I'd prefer to make 1.5MBps available to anyone who wants it,
rather than having some people in some cities with 60M and regional
areas / people with pair gain etc with 14-33K.
Fuck that, why should my internet experience be limited because of the
tiny percentage of the populus who choose to live in the middle of
nowhere?
I've never been to Perth or Hobart and only visit Adelaide roughly once a
year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory none of the Capital cities
have Uranium/Gold/Iron/Coal etc mines in the middle of them and I believe
that most of the food growing areas are outside the cities. That being the
case it's hard to see what the Capital cities do other than consume our
products, produce copious pollution and provide services to support the
productive regions of Australia that keep people like you in a comfortable
lifestyle.
Minority groups and crackpots are the only ones that have rights or a"PhilD" <replytonewsgroupo...@aussient.com.au> wrote in message
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"Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote in message
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"Doug Jewell" <a...@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
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Don McKenzie wrote:
Internet Speeds And Costs Around The World, Shown Visually:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/internet-speeds-and-costs-around-th....
Be sure to click the above image to see it in its full glory.
Yes, Australia if 5th from the right hand end of the graph.
Cheers Don...
One thing you will notice about the countries with very high speed
internet - they are all small with high population. Much easier and
cheaper to provide high speed broadband to a reasonable slab of the
population in those circumstances. I wonder what level of access people
in say rural France have though. At least in Australia, most people in
major cities have access to 8MBps (although very few opt for faster than
512K), and most people in rural towns have access to 1.5MBps. Thanks to
the government assistance, people on farms etc have access to
256-512kBps via satellite which is a damned site better than what they
could get through phone lines. We still have some way to go, but
personally I'd prefer to make 1.5MBps available to anyone who wants it,
rather than having some people in some cities with 60M and regional
areas / people with pair gain etc with 14-33K.
Fuck that, why should my internet experience be limited because of the
tiny percentage of the populus who choose to live in the middle of
nowhere?
I've never been to Perth or Hobart and only visit Adelaide roughly once a
year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory none of the Capital cities
have Uranium/Gold/Iron/Coal etc mines in the middle of them and I believe
that most of the food growing areas are outside the cities. That being the
case it's hard to see what the Capital cities do other than consume our
products, produce copious pollution and provide services to support the
productive regions of Australia that keep people like you in a comfortable
lifestyle.
Which has sweet fuck all to do with my internet experience being restricted
to appease a minority group.
internet, and so should everyone. My comments were about your view of"PhilD" <replytonewsgrouponly@aussient.com.au> wrote in message
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"Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com> wrote in message
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"Doug Jewell" <ask@and.maybe.ill.tell.you> wrote in message
news:K7ydnfYzaINfOnXXnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@westnet.com.au...
Don McKenzie wrote:
Internet Speeds And Costs Around The World, Shown Visually:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2009/10/internet-speeds-and-costs-around-the-world-shown-visually/#more-362769
Be sure to click the above image to see it in its full glory.
Yes, Australia if 5th from the right hand end of the graph.
Cheers Don...
One thing you will notice about the countries with very high speed
internet - they are all small with high population. Much easier and
cheaper to provide high speed broadband to a reasonable slab of the
population in those circumstances. I wonder what level of access people
in say rural France have though. At least in Australia, most people in
major cities have access to 8MBps (although very few opt for faster
than 512K), and most people in rural towns have access to 1.5MBps.
Thanks to the government assistance, people on farms etc have access to
256-512kBps via satellite which is a damned site better than what they
could get through phone lines. We still have some way to go, but
personally I'd prefer to make 1.5MBps available to anyone who wants it,
rather than having some people in some cities with 60M and regional
areas / people with pair gain etc with 14-33K.
Fuck that, why should my internet experience be limited because of the
tiny percentage of the populus who choose to live in the middle of
nowhere?
I've never been to Perth or Hobart and only visit Adelaide roughly once a
year. Correct me if I'm wrong, but from memory none of the Capital cities
have Uranium/Gold/Iron/Coal etc mines in the middle of them and I believe
that most of the food growing areas are outside the cities. That being
the case it's hard to see what the Capital cities do other than consume
our products, produce copious pollution and provide services to support
the productive regions of Australia that keep people like you in a
comfortable lifestyle.
Which has sweet fuck all to do with my internet experience being
restricted to appease a minority group.
I never said it was related and you should be able to get a suitable speed
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.Yeahbut if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Well, all you have to do is look at the collective contents of ourMinority groups and crackpots are the only ones that have rights or a
voice in this society in case you havent noticed.
Most farm produce on Australian supermarket shelves is imported.On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:15:08 +0800, Rheilly Phoull wrote:
Yeahbut if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Do you really think this is going to happen?But After Ruddy installs a super fast highway that
only the government will be able to afford, we're still going to be
in the same boat.
Like hell it is.Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeahbut if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Most farm produce on Australian supermarket shelves is imported.
The Aussie farmers are good at very efficently producing most basics andDr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com . wrote
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that
too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Most farm produce on Australian supermarket shelves is imported.
your ignorance is not my problem.Like hell it is.
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you could launch a new career asterryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeahbut if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.
Its a hell of a lot more than just "condiments" that are imported.Rod Speed wrote
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com . wrote
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Most farm produce on Australian supermarket shelves is imported.
The Aussie farmers are good at very efficently producing most basics and
basic forms of meat. They just can not compete on what you call "condiments"
And that in spades.or the fiddly stuff that requires lots of hands on work.
That is just plain wrong.The figures I remember of $90B exports and $125B imports for food stuff.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.Like hell it is.
your ignorance is not my problem.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you
could launch a new career as a farm consultants.
LMAO !!!On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:35:17 +1100, Rod Speed wrote:
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeahbut if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you could launch a new career as
a farm consultants. Heck, the farmers would at least get a good laugh out
of you.
Those who need to know, know that it is true. Others, shrug, theirterryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that
too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you could launch a new career
as a farm consultants.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
YOU made that stupid pig ignorant claim.
YOU get to substantiate that stupid pig ignorant claim.
Nothing there contradicts my figures. You're just looking at a subset.The figures I remember of $90B exports and $125B imports for food
stuff.
That is just plain wrong.
http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/foodindustry.html
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rheilly Phoull wrote
Yeah but if we didnt buy your stuff you would be winging about that too
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Like hell it is.
Hey, with a snappy come back like that, you could
launch a new career as a farm consultants.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
YOU made that stupid pig ignorant claim.
YOU get to substantiate that stupid pig ignorant claim.
Those who need to know, know that it is true. Others, shrug, their problem.
You're lying, as always.Rod Speed wrote
terryc wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF" <""noujwas\"@yahoo.com . wrote
terryc wrote
Most farm produce in Australia is exported anyway.
Most farm produce on Australian supermarket shelves is imported.
The Aussie farmers are good at very efficently producing most basics and
basic forms of meat. They just can not compete on what you call "condiments"
Its a hell of a lot more than just "condiments" that are imported.
or the fiddly stuff that requires lots of hands on work.
And that in spades.
The figures I remember of $90B exports and $125B imports for food stuff.
That is just plain wrong.
http://www.dfat.gov.au/facts/foodindustry.html
Nothing there contradicts my figures.
You're lying, as always.You're just looking at a subset.
I think it will happen but it won't be overnight. Projects like these takeson of a bitch wrote:
But After Ruddy installs a super fast highway that
only the government will be able to afford, we're still going to be
in the same boat.
Do you really think this is going to happen?
There is a lot of spin but it's more to do with putting pressure on TelstraIt's all just spin - to cover their piss poor ability to meet their
election promises regarding the internet.
It remains to be seen if it will even make it thru the senate.me here <gloaming_agnet@hotmail.com> wrote
son of a bitch wrote
But After Ruddy installs a super fast highway that
only the government will be able to afford, we're still going to be in the same boat.
Do you really think this is going to happen?
I think it will happen but it won't be overnight. Projects like these take years. Probably ten years until near
completion.
Yes, but it remains to be seen if that 'pressure' makes it thru the senate.It's all just spin - to cover their piss poor ability to meet their election promises regarding the internet.
There is a lot of spin but it's more to do with putting pressure on Telstra to stop obfuscating and start cooperating.
But its very unlikely that Telstra is prepared to accept what the govt is preparedThe Government and Telstra are in negotiations about price of Telstra assets.