Internet Speed Tests...

On 2/1/2022 2:58, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:06:35 PM UTC-5, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
mandag den 31. januar 2022 kl. 23.51.27 UTC+1 skrev Dimiter Popoff:
On 2/1/2022 0:28, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 31/01/22 20:22, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
Websites are slowed down in an annoying way almost 100% by ad services,
some google facebook you name it ad server gets overloaded and you
have to wait for it, websites are typically written with the ads
having priority over the info you are after, unsurprisingly.

Ad servers are slow partly because they take time to /auction/
your eyeballs to the highest bidder. Yes, they pass info to many
of their customers, so their customers can decide how valuable
(or not) you are to them.

NoScript and AdBlock are necessary when browsing the web.
Carl Sagan foresaw the necessity for them in his novel Contact,
albeit with TV advertising rather than the web.
Probably all of your suspicions of what they do are correct and
likely we can\'t suspect enough :). Things become messier by the
day, lately the ISP-s (or some entity behind them) join in; for
example, since may be a month if I start facebook-browsing (I am
not a very active facebooker but some days I spend 5-10 minutes,
mainly looking at posts to local village groups and the poster\'s
profiles) after only 2-3 minutes of active browsing certain parts
become non-responsive (not the main page, just what it references,
photos, posts, menus etc.). And this is not facebook\'s fault, if
I log in via TOR things work just fine, so it is either the local
ISP or something between them and facebook, who knows. My guess is
the local ISP get too much facebook traffic (all those kids with
their phones) and limit it but it is as good as anybody\'s guess.
browsing facebook is a drop in the ocean compared to watching a movie

Anyway, I don\'t even try to guess who is doing what on the web.
I don\'t switch scripts off or use adblockers, I guess I don\'t
waste that much time browsing. Mostly the BBC website, football
scores etc., I don\'t know how much of these will work if I
block the ads, so far it is tolerable for me.
everything still works, just a million times better

install something like adblock+ and you\'ll never go back

I wonder, do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that I am using dial up?

Ouch, I must have missed this fact. I assumed you have some
sort of broadband. At dial up speeds I imagine a lot can go
wrong, sites are widely optimized/tested at much higher speeds
than that. Browser can time out on certain pages, drop connections
etc. I have seen that when my phone internet access gets down
to 64 kbps because I have my limits exhausted, things barely
work really.
 
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 10:21:20 PM UTC-5, Dimiter Popoff wrote:
On 2/1/2022 2:58, Rick C wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:06:35 PM UTC-5, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
mandag den 31. januar 2022 kl. 23.51.27 UTC+1 skrev Dimiter Popoff:
On 2/1/2022 0:28, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 31/01/22 20:22, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
Websites are slowed down in an annoying way almost 100% by ad services,
some google facebook you name it ad server gets overloaded and you
have to wait for it, websites are typically written with the ads
having priority over the info you are after, unsurprisingly.

Ad servers are slow partly because they take time to /auction/
your eyeballs to the highest bidder. Yes, they pass info to many
of their customers, so their customers can decide how valuable
(or not) you are to them.

NoScript and AdBlock are necessary when browsing the web.
Carl Sagan foresaw the necessity for them in his novel Contact,
albeit with TV advertising rather than the web.
Probably all of your suspicions of what they do are correct and
likely we can\'t suspect enough :). Things become messier by the
day, lately the ISP-s (or some entity behind them) join in; for
example, since may be a month if I start facebook-browsing (I am
not a very active facebooker but some days I spend 5-10 minutes,
mainly looking at posts to local village groups and the poster\'s
profiles) after only 2-3 minutes of active browsing certain parts
become non-responsive (not the main page, just what it references,
photos, posts, menus etc.). And this is not facebook\'s fault, if
I log in via TOR things work just fine, so it is either the local
ISP or something between them and facebook, who knows. My guess is
the local ISP get too much facebook traffic (all those kids with
their phones) and limit it but it is as good as anybody\'s guess.
browsing facebook is a drop in the ocean compared to watching a movie

Anyway, I don\'t even try to guess who is doing what on the web.
I don\'t switch scripts off or use adblockers, I guess I don\'t
waste that much time browsing. Mostly the BBC website, football
scores etc., I don\'t know how much of these will work if I
block the ads, so far it is tolerable for me.
everything still works, just a million times better

install something like adblock+ and you\'ll never go back

I wonder, do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that I am using dial up?

Ouch, I must have missed this fact. I assumed you have some
sort of broadband. At dial up speeds I imagine a lot can go
wrong, sites are widely optimized/tested at much higher speeds
than that. Browser can time out on certain pages, drop connections
etc. I have seen that when my phone internet access gets down
to 64 kbps because I have my limits exhausted, things barely
work really.

Sorry, I should have used a smiley. ;)

--

Rick C.

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Rick C <gnuarm.deletethisbit@gmail.com> wrote:
On Monday, January 31, 2022 at 6:06:35 PM UTC-5, lang...@fonz.dk wrote:
mandag den 31. januar 2022 kl. 23.51.27 UTC+1 skrev Dimiter Popoff:
On 2/1/2022 0:28, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 31/01/22 20:22, Dimiter_Popoff wrote:
Websites are slowed down in an annoying way almost 100% by ad services,
some google facebook you name it ad server gets overloaded and you
have to wait for it, websites are typically written with the ads
having priority over the info you are after, unsurprisingly.

Ad servers are slow partly because they take time to /auction/
your eyeballs to the highest bidder. Yes, they pass info to many
of their customers, so their customers can decide how valuable
(or not) you are to them.

NoScript and AdBlock are necessary when browsing the web.
Carl Sagan foresaw the necessity for them in his novel Contact,
albeit with TV advertising rather than the web.
Probably all of your suspicions of what they do are correct and
likely we can\'t suspect enough :). Things become messier by the
day, lately the ISP-s (or some entity behind them) join in; for
example, since may be a month if I start facebook-browsing (I am
not a very active facebooker but some days I spend 5-10 minutes,
mainly looking at posts to local village groups and the poster\'s
profiles) after only 2-3 minutes of active browsing certain parts
become non-responsive (not the main page, just what it references,
photos, posts, menus etc.). And this is not facebook\'s fault, if
I log in via TOR things work just fine, so it is either the local
ISP or something between them and facebook, who knows. My guess is
the local ISP get too much facebook traffic (all those kids with
their phones) and limit it but it is as good as anybody\'s guess.
browsing facebook is a drop in the ocean compared to watching a movie

Anyway, I don\'t even try to guess who is doing what on the web.
I don\'t switch scripts off or use adblockers, I guess I don\'t
waste that much time browsing. Mostly the BBC website, football
scores etc., I don\'t know how much of these will work if I
block the ads, so far it is tolerable for me.
everything still works, just a million times better

install something like adblock+ and you\'ll never go back

I wonder, do you think this could have anything to do with the fact that I am using dial up?

You need $10 to make a pihole DNS appliance to block ads. It\'s night and
day, even if you have essentially unlimited internet access speed and
minimal latency.

Even the $5 raspberry pi zero wireless module and a few GB microSD card
will work fine.

As far as how accurate are speeds tests, well they\'re accurate for
measuring the speeds of a speeds testing site, and little more than that.
The effective difference in a 10Mb gig or even 10Gb internet connection is
nothing when looking at the typical add infested website. The higher
speeds help if you are really transferring large amounts of data at a
steady pace. This is not what happens when you go to say cnn.com and about
90% of what tries to render in your browser is garbage ads or trackers
over hundreds of small, slow requests.
 

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