Install two coils increases gas mileage.

[Tibur Waltson]

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[Stephen Bigelow]

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

Is it at factory correct specs now?

 

[Robert Hancock]

Unless the ignition system is not powerful enough to ignite the fuel
properly and is misfiring (in which case there's probably something broken),
this is not going to help anything.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[Tony Hwang]

Hi,
If you parallel the coil, the output will halfen.
Your idea is flawed. don't do it. It may cause a irreversible
damage to ign. circuit.
Tony

Tibur Waltson wrote:

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[John Ings]

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:10:42 GMT, "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com>
wrote:

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be.

If you light the fuse on a stick of dynamite with a blowtorch instead
of a match, will you get a bigger explosion?

Unless your engine is misfiring now, no amount of extra strong spark
buys you anything.

 

[Boris Mohar]

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 06:48:01 GMT, Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

Hi,
If you parallel the coil, the output will halfen.
Your idea is flawed. don't do it. It may cause a irreversible
damage to ign. circuit.
Tony

That is not correct. If both coils are identical the output will be same
voltage with twice the available current. This is assuming that the primary
driving circuitry can handle the job which I doubt. The idea of paralleling
the coils is not a good one. Tibur should explain how did he determine that
the coil "isn't as strong as I want it to be"





Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
Aurora, Ontario

 

[TCS]

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 04:10:42 GMT, Tibur Waltson <Toush@hi.com> wrote:

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

If your coil is defective, replace it. Firing the fuel charge a second
time won't make one whit of difference.

 

[Thinker]

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...

The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

How have you determined that the spark is not enough to do the job?

Honda is much better equipped and much more knowledgeable about this
than you are so I would consult with them before you go off on a
half-baked idea of your own.

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[Don Bruder]

In article <NhfOb.469$1f.483870@monger.newsread.com>,
"Thinker" <freedom@usa.com> wrote:

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...
The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?


How have you determined that the spark is not enough to do the job?

Honda is much better equipped and much more knowledgeable about this
than you are so I would consult with them before you go off on a
half-baked idea of your own.

"Half-baked"...

A damn good description of every post I've seen from this "Tibur" guy so
far.

First it was trying to use a welder to jump-start a car. BRILLIANT...
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Not...

Now double coils... What's next Tibur? A car that runs on oatmeal?

--
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Hate SPAM? See <http://www.spamassassin.org> for some seriously great info.
I will choose a path that's clear: I will choose Free Will! - N. Peart
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[Eric R Snow]

On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 19:20:51 GMT, Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:

In article <NhfOb.469$1f.483870@monger.newsread.com>,
"Thinker" <freedom@usa.com> wrote:

"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...
The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?


How have you determined that the spark is not enough to do the job?

Honda is much better equipped and much more knowledgeable about this
than you are so I would consult with them before you go off on a
half-baked idea of your own.

"Half-baked"...

A damn good description of every post I've seen from this "Tibur" guy so
far.

First it was trying to use a welder to jump-start a car. BRILLIANT...
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Not...

Now double coils... What's next Tibur? A car that runs on oatmeal?
Mebbe that welder jump start trick is the reason the coil is weak now.

Or, could be that after seeing the sparks from the extra coil.
ERS

 

[Kevin]

That's not necessarily true. If you have ever been in a small plane and
switched from one mag to another to both you will notice an instant RPM
change.

KS

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:q84Ob.138156$X%5.134518@pd7tw2no...

Unless the ignition system is not powerful enough to ignite the fuel
properly and is misfiring (in which case there's probably something
broken),
this is not going to help anything.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...
The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[Neil Nelson]

In article <nWfOb.9211$XF6.192614@typhoon.sonic.net>,
Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote:

"Half-baked"...

Agreed

A damn good description of every post I've seen from this "Tibur" guy so
far.

Indeed.

First it was trying to use a welder to jump-start a car. BRILLIANT...
ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT! Not...

Dudes got nine lives or something...

Now double coils... What's next Tibur? A car that runs on oatmeal?

Actually, I believe that has been done already.
Sold under the brand name; Horse & Buggy. 8^)

 

[Bob]

That's true... keep in mind though that planes have two spark plugs per
cylinder, each with it's own separate ignition system. I don't think Tibur
was planning to pull his heads and have them fitted for two plugs per
cylinder. Using two coils to fire one plug is not likely to help much.
Bob
"Kevin" <kevins@dontspamme.net> wrote in message
news:MP-dnXVxLqMbMpTdXTWc-g@speakeasy.net...

That's not necessarily true. If you have ever been in a small plane and
switched from one mag to another to both you will notice an instant RPM
change.

KS

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:q84Ob.138156$X%5.134518@pd7tw2no...
Unless the ignition system is not powerful enough to ignite the fuel
properly and is misfiring (in which case there's probably something
broken),
this is not going to help anything.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...
The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89

 

[Swells8044]

yes but a plane has 2 plugs per cylinder

 

[Tibur Waltson]

"Neil Nelson" <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> wrote: <snip
"Half-baked"...

Agreed.

Now double coils... What's next Tibur? A car that runs on oatmeal?

Actually, .. Horse & Buggy. 8^)

I'll keep it down...

Isn't it exciting to see me fry something. I fried an $800 PC, $600
motor, $500 laptop, $300 DVD player. List goes on. You might think,
"This guy is making a fool of himself," but no, actually, I gain experience. I
fix half the stuff I break and succeed.

Learn form your mistake = experience.
Learn from others mistakes = wisdom.

"To know the road ahead as those coming back."

`Being bored is harmful in several ways, explained Caruba, who
founded his institute 17 years ago to educate the public on the
dangers of boredom.

It's a major cause of depression - which can lead to suicide.

Boredom, which hits people of all ages, "shuts the mind down,
limiting your ability to recognize positive ways of coping," noted
Caruba.

Caruba warns that depression also can weaken the body's immune
system, making people susceptible to serious illness.

Fortunately, there are simple steps you can take to combat
boredom and its deadly consequences.

First, reach out to other people to develop and strengthen
relationships. Connect with others by smiling and hugging. Maintain
goals - always have things you want to learn or do and projects to
work on.

And remember, no matter how busy you are, regularly make time
for friends and family. Isolation leads to boredom. Stay in touch
with others.'

Taken from http://tinyurl.com/2vr3p
Tibur

 

[Tibur Waltson]

"Boris Mohar" <borism@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

If you parallel the coil, the output will halfen.

That is not correct. Tibur should explain how did he determine that
the coil "isn't as strong as I want it to be."

Here, take a look at the contraption circuits:

http://tinyurl.com/2r8lu -move mouse over pic-

The coil isn't as strong as I want it to be because the sparks are very
faint compared to other cars. It looks blue-orange and you could see
right thru them. It's amazing that it burns fuel and not missing, actually it
was missing couple days earlier until I replace with new plugs.

Normally it shouldn't miss because I only had the plugs (the ones taken
out) 7-8-thousand miles. The new coil contraption was meant as a
diagnostic jig... or perhaps, increase gas mileage.

Tibur
89 Accord-lxi 270K mi.

 

[Boris Mohar]

On Sun, 18 Jan 2004 10:16:30 GMT, "Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote:

"Boris Mohar" <borism@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
Tony Hwang <dragon40@shaw.ca> wrote:

If you parallel the coil, the output will halfen.

That is not correct. Tibur should explain how did he determine that
the coil "isn't as strong as I want it to be."

Here, take a look at the contraption circuits:

http://tinyurl.com/2r8lu -move mouse over pic-

That would work since you included the ignition module, assuming that the
pickup can drive two ignition modules. For a stock car I see no point.

The coil isn't as strong as I want it to be because the sparks are very
faint compared to other cars. It looks blue-orange and you could see
right thru them. It's amazing that it burns fuel and not missing, actually it
was missing couple days earlier until I replace with new plugs.

Blue orange? That is a hot spark. How long is it? It could be that the
ignition wire insulation or the distributor is breaking down. Change those
first.

Here is a hot spark that I made once.

http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/Misc/PLASMA.JPG





Regards,

Boris Mohar

Got Knock? - see:
Viatrack Printed Circuit Designs http://www3.sympatico.ca/borism/
Aurora, Ontario

 

[Don Bruder]

In article <nonelson-DB143D.17161417012004@newssvr26.news.prodigy.com>,
Neil Nelson <nonelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

Now double coils... What's next Tibur? A car that runs on oatmeal?

Actually, I believe that has been done already.
Sold under the brand name; Horse & Buggy. 8^)

And despite the fact that the "exhaust" can stick to your shoes, quite a
nice ride

--
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[Neil Nelson]

In article
<1de5e31bf5d6937b6e66a632478179bc@news.bubbanews.com>,
"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote:

I'll keep it down...

Isn't it exciting to see me fry something.

Dunno... Which episode(s) of Jackass were you on?

I fried an $800 PC, $600
motor, $500 laptop, $300 DVD player. List goes on. You might think,
"This guy is making a fool of himself," but no, actually, I gain experience. I
fix half the stuff I break and succeed.

Looks to me like you're out $1100.00

[snip]

 

[Kevin]

good point, but if second coil was delayed a few milliseconds it might be
interesting.

ks
"Bob" <bob@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:100jldrrm4is81@corp.supernews.com...

That's true... keep in mind though that planes have two spark plugs per
cylinder, each with it's own separate ignition system. I don't think Tibur
was planning to pull his heads and have them fitted for two plugs per
cylinder. Using two coils to fire one plug is not likely to help much.
Bob
"Kevin" <kevins@dontspamme.net> wrote in message
news:MP-dnXVxLqMbMpTdXTWc-g@speakeasy.net...
That's not necessarily true. If you have ever been in a small plane and
switched from one mag to another to both you will notice an instant RPM
change.

KS

"Robert Hancock" <hancockr@nospamshaw.ca> wrote in message
news:q84Ob.138156$X%5.134518@pd7tw2no...
Unless the ignition system is not powerful enough to ignite the fuel
properly and is misfiring (in which case there's probably something
broken),
this is not going to help anything.

--
Robert Hancock Saskatoon, SK, Canada
To email, remove "nospam" from hancockr@nospamshaw.ca
Home Page: http://www.roberthancock.com/


"Tibur Waltson" <Toush@hi.com> wrote in message
news:c6a813f8d180a4f7bd5d356c6aba6d75@news.bubbanews.com...
The sparks in my car isn't as strong as I want it to be. I have an
ignition coil and an ignition module that I will hook up to the car.
The coils will install in parallel.

The grounding of the other coil will trigger the second ignition
module. This will give it two coils. I thought maybe two coils
are stronger than one and should increase gas mileage. Will this
work?

Tibur
--Honda Accord 89