In the Mkt for a HP Bench DMM

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Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item #
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller distributors
also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com
 
"Chuck Harris" <cf-NO-SPAM-harris@erols.com> wrote in message
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Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

One burning question is, what do I do if Tucker insists that I pay
taxes
on the shipping? Do I pay it and file a complaint with ebay? Or
not
pay it, and hold up the tranaction? Ooh, today is Friday the
Thirteenth. Ominous. I hope it's not going to be that bad...


First off, I don't think they will. If you don't get satisfaction
with a
simple email, call them. They are good folk. I don't like the
quality of
their repair work, but they go out of their way to please.

In the event that they are having a bad day, and they insist on taxing
the
shipping, pay it. We are only talking about $0.30. They have done a
hell
of a lot for your $95. You are getting a tested instrument, a
foamed-in-place
box, and a copy of the operators manual. Look at what the others are
giving
you for 50% to 150% more.
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More like a buck and a quarter. But I think that charging a tax on
non-taxable services is illegal. I didn't know that they had tested it,
or didn't get that from what the auction said, but that's reassuring.
However your comment below that "It worked just the way I hoped it
would" isn't very reassuring to me because I've had to jump thru so many
hoops so far and I'm still not done with the transaction. Just think
about this: I'm dealing with less than a hundred, but just imagine what
kind of knot the guy has in his stomach who is buying a $4000 or more
instrument from them! He must feel like a pretzel!

Tucker is a very respected, well known entity; that is why I made a
point of
aiming you at that auction. It worked just the way I hoped it would.

Smile, be happy.

-Chuck
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"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
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Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item #
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller
distributors
also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com
Click to expand...
Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other similar
electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no date
for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up with
the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.
 
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:

More like a buck and a quarter. But I think that charging a tax on
non-taxable services is illegal. I didn't know that they had tested it,
or didn't get that from what the auction said, but that's reassuring.
However your comment below that "It worked just the way I hoped it
would" isn't very reassuring to me because I've had to jump thru so many
hoops so far and I'm still not done with the transaction. Just think
about this: I'm dealing with less than a hundred, but just imagine what
kind of knot the guy has in his stomach who is buying a $4000 or more
instrument from them! He must feel like a pretzel!
Click to expand...
Nah! Tucker has been around for 40 years. They aren't going to try
and blow their reputation over a $100 sale. The hoops you have been
subjected to are minor clerical errors. $1.25 surely isn't going to
sour this deal for you. You could have paid $250 for the same DMM
and taken the same risk...

I'll repeat myself:

Tucker is a very respected, well known entity; that is why I made a

point of

aiming you at that auction. It worked just the way I hoped it would.

Smile, be happy.

-Chuck
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
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Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item #
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller
distributors
also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com

Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other similar
electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no date
for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up with
the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.
Click to expand...
I also ordered a couple sets of the Kelvin clips from Hosfelt some time ago.
THey were out of stock at the time I ordered them, but I really wanted thm,
so I let them stay on backorder. They finally arrived some months later.
They are not high quality clips.. held together by a small rubber band
that provides the "spring" tension. But they do work, and for the price,
they are good enough, since I don't use them in a production environment.

--
Dave M
MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just subsitute the appropriate characters in
the address)

Never take a laxative and a sleeping pill at the same time!!
 
"DaveM" <masondg4499@comcast99.net> wrote in message
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"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com
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"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
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Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item
#
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller
distributors
also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com

Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other
similar
electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no
date
for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up
with
the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.



I also ordered a couple sets of the Kelvin clips from Hosfelt some
time ago.
THey were out of stock at the time I ordered them, but I really wanted
thm,
so I let them stay on backorder. They finally arrived some months
later.
They are not high quality clips.. held together by a small rubber
band
that provides the "spring" tension. But they do work, and for the
price,
they are good enough, since I don't use them in a production
environment.
Click to expand...

Sounds like I'm fortunate to have cancelled my order. I can make a set
that's just as good.

BTW, it's against the law to hold someone's order for more than 8
weeks(?) without informing the buyer that he has the option of
cancelling or getting a refund. Or else allowing the seller to hold the
money until the items arrive.

--
Dave M
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DaveM wrote:
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover"" <NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
in message news:118c2b6ip03r06a@corp.supernews.com...

"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
news:1189i7orccci2ab@corp.supernews.com...

Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item #
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller

distributors

also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com

Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other similar
electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no date
for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up with
the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.




I also ordered a couple sets of the Kelvin clips from Hosfelt some time ago.
THey were out of stock at the time I ordered them, but I really wanted thm,
so I let them stay on backorder. They finally arrived some months later.
They are not high quality clips.. held together by a small rubber band
that provides the "spring" tension. But they do work, and for the price,
they are good enough, since I don't use them in a production environment.

Seems to me that anyone could kludge some up by using (plastic)
Click to expand...
clothespins, copper (sticky on one side) tape, and wire.
Quality would be at least as good.
Tinning the copper tape would make it less suceptable to oxidation
and easier to keep clean.
Or get "fancy" and use thin galvanized sheet metal cut into narrow
strips; bend to fit around each jaw, solder on the leads and then epozy
the strips to the jaws.
 
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DaveM wrote:
"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover""
NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote
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"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
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Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item
#
52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller

distributors

also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com

Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other
similar
electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no
date
for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up
with
the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.




I also ordered a couple sets of the Kelvin clips from Hosfelt some
time ago.
THey were out of stock at the time I ordered them, but I really
wanted thm,
so I let them stay on backorder. They finally arrived some months
later.
They are not high quality clips.. held together by a small rubber
band
that provides the "spring" tension. But they do work, and for the
price,
they are good enough, since I don't use them in a production
environment.

Seems to me that anyone could kludge some up by using (plastic)
clothespins, copper (sticky on one side) tape, and wire.
Quality would be at least as good.
Tinning the copper tape would make it less suceptable to oxidation
and easier to keep clean.
Or get "fancy" and use thin galvanized sheet metal cut into narrow
strips; bend to fit around each jaw, solder on the leads and then
epozy
the strips to the jaws.
Click to expand...
The galvanic action between different metals makes the readings
inaccurate. Therefore using solder, steel, or zinc coated steel, is
absolutely out of the question.
 
Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover" wrote:
"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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DaveM wrote:

"Watson A.Name - "Watt Sun, the Dark Remover""

NOSPAM@dslextreme.com> wrote

in message news:118c2b6ip03r06a@corp.supernews.com...


"David DiGiacomo" <david@slack.com> wrote in message
news:1189i7orccci2ab@corp.supernews.com...


Hosfelt Electronics sells Mueller Kelvin clips for $7.50 each, item

#

52-75K. I guess they must be available from other Mueller

distributors


also. They have copper contacts.

--
David DiGiacomo, San Francisco, CA david@slack.com

Thanks. Last year I ordered some from either them or some other

similar

electronics distrib, and they said they were out of stock with no

date

for an ETA. So I cancelled. I think that the smaller dealers like
Hosfelt are ordering small quantities from another distrib and can't
possibly keep enough in stock, and neither can the distrib they're
ordering from. In other words, the supply can't possibly keep up

with

the demand. But it's not like we can't live without them.




I also ordered a couple sets of the Kelvin clips from Hosfelt some

time ago.

THey were out of stock at the time I ordered them, but I really

wanted thm,

so I let them stay on backorder. They finally arrived some months

later.

They are not high quality clips.. held together by a small rubber

band

that provides the "spring" tension. But they do work, and for the

price,

they are good enough, since I don't use them in a production

environment.

Seems to me that anyone could kludge some up by using (plastic)
clothespins, copper (sticky on one side) tape, and wire.
Quality would be at least as good.
Tinning the copper tape would make it less suceptable to oxidation
and easier to keep clean.
Or get "fancy" and use thin galvanized sheet metal cut into narrow
strips; bend to fit around each jaw, solder on the leads and then

epozy

the strips to the jaws.


The galvanic action between different metals makes the readings
inaccurate. Therefore using solder, steel, or zinc coated steel, is
absolutely out of the question.


So on one side, one is going from (say) copper to galvanized; the
Click to expand...
other side is the opposite; tends to cancel out.
The original "cheapie" is just as bad on the contacts; i just made
suggestions for a more robust QND set (no rubber bands).
Now if there is a source for gold plated shim stock or equivalent,
then at least the contacts would be better.
BUT.
*Somewhere* in the full circuit, the metal used WILL change from gold
to something else (maybe copper???).
Therefore the most expensive Kelvin clips have the !same! galvanic
and thermoelectric problems.
 
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