IE9 does not run on Windows XP

[Tom]

On 18/03/2011 1:46 PM, kreed wrote:

On Mar 18, 1:26 pm, Huge Ackman<wolver...@example.com> wrote:
On 16/03/2011 6:26 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-busines...

Cheers Don...

============

Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.



very reliable, stable and well documented though
will take some time for 7 to reach that stage.

And lot of real working software (like PLC development, micro
programming) doesn't run yet on Vista or 7

Tom

 

[Rob]

On 18/03/2011 2:46 PM, kreed wrote:

On Mar 18, 1:26 pm, Huge Ackman<wolver...@example.com> wrote:
On 16/03/2011 6:26 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-busines...

Cheers Don...

============

Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.



very reliable, stable and well documented though
will take some time for 7 to reach that stage.

SP1 is out for W7

 

[kreed]

On Mar 18, 1:26 pm, Huge Ackman <wolver...@example.com> wrote:

On 16/03/2011 6:26 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-busines...

Cheers Don...

===========
Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.

very reliable, stable and well documented though
will take some time for 7 to reach that stage.

 

[David Ross]

In article <8u9sqbFgirU2@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A>
wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-businesses.aspx

Cheers Don...

============

...And thats bad because...

David

 

[Petzl]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:26:32 +1100, Huge Ackman
<wolverine@example.com> wrote:

Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.

Just "upgraded" to IE9 (home edition Win& 32 bit) and its still brokem
crap! Have to use Fire Fox as main browser
--
Petzl
Liberal Labor? Pot Kettle?
Ask your MP on their stand on a Moslem moratorium!
Vote 1, Christian Democratic Party, for one
Vote 2 Pauline Hanson for Senate
http://paulinehanson.net.au/ .
http://tinyurl.com/CDP-Candidates
Liberal Labor are like the Roman Republic where rich politicians try and induce votes by bribing plebians with elaborate promises and colloseum games.

 

[Huge Ackman]

On 18/03/2011 2:46 PM, kreed wrote:

On Mar 18, 1:26 pm, Huge Ackman<wolver...@example.com> wrote:
On 16/03/2011 6:26 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-busines...

Cheers Don...

============

Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.



very reliable, stable and well documented though
will take some time for 7 to reach that stage.

Everything good takes time to please people. Win XP is old and is
starting to be left out already. Oh sure, it will be years before it is
"win 98" old but it has already started down that path.

I know it seems unfair to update for the heck of it and if all you do is
the odd web site gawking and a bit of email and the usual crap, you dont
really need more. Hell, you can still drive a 1964 EH Holden if you want
- they were reliable and well built. It's just that all the bells and
whistles you get these days with newer cars arent in the EH as it was
built. Things exist in Win 7 that dont exist in XP. If you want or need
the new things or just want to remain viable, with your computer, for
longer, you will eventually choose to update but that doesnt mean that
Win 98SE wont work for you with a lot of web sites and email.

 

[Huge Ackman]

On 18/03/2011 3:32 PM, Rob wrote:

On 18/03/2011 2:46 PM, kreed wrote:
On Mar 18, 1:26 pm, Huge Ackman<wolver...@example.com> wrote:
On 16/03/2011 6:26 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-busines...


Cheers Don...

============

Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.



very reliable, stable and well documented though
will take some time for 7 to reach that stage.

SP1 is out for W7

Surprisingly, it made my 2 64 bit Win 7s run a hell of a lot faster when
I put it in. Cant say why as nothing was going wrong with them before,
one which I only built the end of Jan 2011 and only a slacker machine,
I3 with 4gigs ram for dull jobs. The other, a laptop bought in 2007 only
a 1.86Mhz C2D with 4gigs. The laptop has 64 bit architecture, though -
the other doesnt. Still, both a real lot faster.

 

[Huge Ackman]

On 18/03/2011 6:50 PM, Petzl wrote:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:26:32 +1100, Huge Ackman
wolverine@example.com> wrote:



Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.

Just "upgraded" to IE9 (home edition Win& 32 bit) and its still brokem
crap! Have to use Fire Fox as main browser
--
Petzl
Liberal Labor? Pot Kettle?
Ask your MP on their stand on a Moslem moratorium!
Vote 1, Christian Democratic Party, for one
Vote 2 Pauline Hanson for Senate
http://paulinehanson.net.au/ .
http://tinyurl.com/CDP-Candidates
Liberal Labor are like the Roman Republic where rich politicians try and induce votes by bribing plebians with elaborate promises and colloseum games.

IE9 works here and pretty damned fast, too. What's broken for you?

 

[Huge Ackman]

On 18/03/2011 6:01 PM, David Ross wrote:

In article<8u9sqbFgirU2@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A
wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-businesses.aspx

Cheers Don...

============

..And thats bad because...

David

Nothing wrong with old stuff. I reckon the D-type Jag was one of the
better looking machines built of its era. Hell, vintage cars can bring
in a lot of money, too!

 

[Petzl]

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:14:25 +1100, Huge Ackman
<wolverine@example.com> wrote:

On 18/03/2011 6:50 PM, Petzl wrote:
On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:26:32 +1100, Huge Ackman
wolverine@example.com> wrote:



Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.

Just "upgraded" to IE9 (home edition Win7 32 bit) and its still brokem
crap! Have to use Fire Fox as main browser

IE9 works here and pretty damned fast, too. What's broken for you?

Yeah sure not according to everyone I know
Something has changed on its cookie storage/handling which means I
can't log into many websites. Commenting/messages on places like
YouTube/Twitter/Facebook and others is pretty useless, the pagelayout
from IE7 changed and don't like it,
Fact is FireFox works where IE8 and now IE9 don't and now use three
browsers (FF,IE,Chrome) whereas before I only used "Internet
Explorer". Futher fact is Microsoft since Gates left has become buggy
junk I will be faceing up to giving Google Chrome if they can get it
working
--
Petzl
Liberal Labor? Pot Kettle?
Ask your MP on their stand on a Moslem moratorium!
Vote 1, Christian Democratic Party, for one
Vote 2 Pauline Hanson for Senate
http://paulinehanson.net.au/ .
http://tinyurl.com/CDP-Candidates
Liberal Labor are like the Roman Republic where rich politicians try and induce votes by bribing plebians with elaborate promises and colloseum games.

 

[Rob]

On 18/03/2011 11:15 PM, Huge Ackman wrote:

On 18/03/2011 6:01 PM, David Ross wrote:
In article<8u9sqbFgirU2@mid.individual.net>, Don McKenzie<5V@2.5A
wrote:

IE9 does not run on Windows XP

http://www.itnews.com.au/News/251335,ie9-a-non-event-for-most-businesses.aspx


Cheers Don...

============

..And thats bad because...

David

Nothing wrong with old stuff. I reckon the D-type Jag was one of the
better looking machines built of its era. Hell, vintage cars can bring
in a lot of money, too!

Yep had a bit of a play in one just the other day.

 

[Rob]

On 17/03/2011 11:01 AM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 17-Mar-11 10:07 AM, Rob wrote:
On 16/03/2011 2:19 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:
On 16-Mar-11 1:07 PM, Rob wrote:

Interesting when I look up web stats there are more people using IE
that Firefox.

that may depend on which set of stats you look at
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/

Browsers Grabber Hits Percent
Firefox No 232394 40.6 %
MS Internet Explorer No 193424 33.7 %
Google Chrome No 85254 14.8 %
Opera No 26632 4.6 %
Safari No 22888 3.9 %
Mozilla No 9353 1.6 %
Unknown ? 1310 0.2 %
Netscape No 575 0.1 %
Epiphany No 212 0 %

Cheers Don...

========================



interesting that it varies so much my site is not a technical site

50.8 IE
21 FF


almost verifies what Dennis #1 said.

Cheers Don...

====================

How's these stats. Off an image data base.

Windows XP 15481 (47.4 %)

Windows 7 5289 (16.2 %)

Macintosh 5177 (15.8 %)

Windows Vista 4694 (14.3 %)

Windows 1329 (4.0 %)

Unknown 511 (1.5 %)

Windows 2003 Server 70 (0.2 %)

Windows 2000 35 (0.1 %)

Windows 98 10 (0.0 %)

iPhone 3 (0.0 %)

......................................

IE8 11603 (35.5 %)

Firefox 8177 (25.0 %)

IE7 5492 (16.8 %)

Safari 3183 (9.7 %)

Chrome 2671 (8.1 %)

IE6 1208 (3.7 %)

Unknown 139 (0.4 %)

Opera 87 (0.2 %)

IE5.5 24 (0.0 %)

IE5.0 8 (0.0 %)

Flock 4 (0.0 %)

iPhone 3 (0.0 %)

 

[Don McKenzie]

On 19-Mar-11 4:58 PM, Rob wrote:

Nothing wrong with old stuff. I reckon the D-type Jag was one of the
better looking machines built of its era. Hell, vintage cars can bring
in a lot of money, too!

Yep had a bit of a play in one just the other day.

A d type in oz?
that would be rare. wasn't an e?

Or do you mean a vintage car?

I had an FJ holden for years, and drove one recently, and was horrified.

Then, my first car was a 1924 Rugby.
My first registered car was a 1938 Morris 8/40

Cheers Don...

=============


--
Don McKenzie

Dontronics Blog: http://www.dontronics.com/blog
Dontronics Site Map: http://www.dontronics.com/sitemap
E-Mail Contact Page: http://www.dontronics.com/email
Web Camera Page: http://www.dontronics.com/webcam
No More Damn Spam: http://www.dontronics.com/spam

These products will reduce in price by 5% every month:
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/minus-5-every-month.html
http://www.dontronics-shop.com/ics.html

Bare Proto PCB for PIC or AVR projects?
"I'd buy that for a Dollar!".

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-03-15, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:44:46 +1100, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

On 16-Mar-11 8:53 AM, kreed wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:26 am, Don McKenzie<5...@2.5A> wrote:

Who would use that piece of crap anyway when you have Firefiox ?

I agree kreed, but...

Users are forced to use it when micro$oft, and some other products do an upgrade, or call a browser, and they do
actually force you into it.

If it was up to me, I would kill the thing.
There should be a law punishable by death (or worse), against apps not using the default browser.

Perhaps direct an attack of the relentless Roddle-bot, or the recently discovered Godzilla Sea Monkey, against
non-compliant authors.

I assume that xp users mustn't install the new version. After all, one so called expert in that article claims 67 per
cent of corporate desktops are using xp.

Cheers Don...

Firefox still has bugs that make it unusable at times.

IE can't download dynamic content over https.

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[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-03-15, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 10:16:26 +1100, terryc
newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:

Barry OGrady wrote:

Firefox still has bugs that make it unusable at times.

Or webpages are none standard?
IME, FF bugs are fixed very quickly.

Firefox still does not work with some links, and that bug is not
even acknowledged by FF promoters.
FF is constantly being updated to fix bugs that are not even
acknowledged.
How much does Mozilla pay people to pretend to like their product?

Unlike Microsoft I have never heard on Mozilla doing anything like
that.

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[Rob]

On 19/03/2011 5:31 PM, Don McKenzie wrote:

On 19-Mar-11 4:58 PM, Rob wrote:

Nothing wrong with old stuff. I reckon the D-type Jag was one of the
better looking machines built of its era. Hell, vintage cars can bring
in a lot of money, too!

Yep had a bit of a play in one just the other day.

A d type in oz?
that would be rare. wasn't an e?

Had a play with one of them as well. I'm now waiting for the rebuild of
another E so I can have a fiddle. Yep depends on who you know.

Or do you mean a vintage car?

I had an FJ holden for years, and drove one recently, and was horrified.


Then, my first car was a 1924 Rugby.
My first registered car was a 1938 Morris 8/40

Cheers Don...

=============

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2011-03-18, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:

On Fri, 18 Mar 2011 14:26:32 +1100, Huge Ackman
wolverine@example.com> wrote:



Been known for ages that IE9 isnt for XP. They would rather you buy new
than they support old. XP is just old.

Just "upgraded" to IE9 (home edition Win& 32 bit) and its still brokem
crap! Have to use Fire Fox as main browser

can you hit this URL with it and tell me if the "download source" link
works. I spent several hours trying to report it to microsoft but they
didnt appear to have a free bug reporting service.

https://www.smtpcorp.com/iebug/iebug.php

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[Barry OGrady]

here is a list of major Firefox bugs that Mazilla has not fixed.

Add-ons Blocklist

This page lists blocklisted add-ons that should no longer be used with
Mozilla products.

* McAfee Site Advisor, versions below 3.3.1 for Firefox 4. Reason:
incompatibility breaks core Firefox features (see bug 637542)
* RelevantKnowledge, version 1.3.328.4 and below for Firefox.
Reason: high crash volume (see bug 615518)
* Java 2 Plugin v1.5_00-1.6_99. Reason: These versions of the Java
plugin are no longer supported by Oracle and cause severe stability
issues for Firefox 3.6 and later (see bug 634639)
* Bandoo, version 5.0 for Firefox 3.6a1pre and higher. Reason:
high crash volume (see bug 629634)
* Shopper Reports, version 3.1.22.0 for all applications. Reason:
high crash volume (see bug 630191)
* Browser Update, all versions. Reason: spyware/adware with no
user value masquerading as a Firefox update (see bug 629717)
* Skype extension, versions below 5.2.0.7165 for Firefox. Reason:
high volume of crashes and severe performance issues. Please update to
the latest version. For more information, please read our
announcement.
* Bing Bar for Firefox. Reason: security issue, blocked at
Microsoft's request (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Default Manager, v2.2 for Firefox. Reason: security issue,
blocked at Microsoft's request (see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Search Helper Extension, v1.0 for Firefox. Reason: security
issue, blocked at Microsoft's request (see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Internet Download Manager, v2.1-3.3 for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer.
Reason: caused startup crashes (see bug 382356).
* Free Download Manager, v1.0-1.3.1 for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer.
Reason: high crash volume (see bug 408445).
* Yahoo Application State Plugin, v1.0.0.5 and older for Firefox
3.0a1 and newer. Reason: high crash volume (see bug 419127).
* Vietnamese Language Pack, v2.0 for all applications. Reason:
corrupted files (see bug 432406).
* Apple QuickTime Plugin, v7.1.*, for all Firefox 3 versions on
Windows. Reason: remote code execution in multiple versions (see bug
430826).
* Crawler Toolbar, for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer. Reason: high crash
volume (see bug 441649).
* Daemon Tools Toolbar, versions older than 1.0.0.5, for all
applications. Reason: high crash volume (see bug 459850).
* AVG SafeSearch, versions older than 8.5, for all applications.
Reason: high crash volume and stability issues (see bug 527135).
* Enigmail, versions older than 0.97a, for Thunderbird 3.0pre and
newer. Reason: high crash volume and other stability issues (see bug
531047). Users should update Enigmail.
* YSlow, version 2.0.5, for Firefox 3.5.7 and newer. Reason: high
crash volume and other stability issues (see bug 542686). Users should
update to YSlow 2.0.6.
* Viewpoint Media Player, all versions, for Firefox 3.0 and newer.
Reason: vendor claims incompatibility with 3.0+, high crash volume and
other stability issues (see bug 539282). For more information, visit
the vendor page.
* Java Deployment Toolkit, versions 6.0.200.0 and older. Reason:
security vulnerabilities (see bug 558584). For more information, visit
the vendor page.
* Internet Download Manager, versions 6.9.8 and older, for Firefox
3.7a1pre and newer. Reason: high crash volume and other stability
issues (see bug 578443).

 

[Barry OGrady]

On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 17:31:21 +1100, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

On 19-Mar-11 4:58 PM, Rob wrote:

Nothing wrong with old stuff. I reckon the D-type Jag was one of the
better looking machines built of its era. Hell, vintage cars can bring
in a lot of money, too!

Yep had a bit of a play in one just the other day.

A d type in oz?
that would be rare. wasn't an e?

Or do you mean a vintage car?

I had an FJ holden for years, and drove one recently, and was horrified.

Then, my first car was a 1924 Rugby.
My first registered car was a 1938 Morris 8/40

Cheers Don...

=============

I had a VC Commodore with the 5 litre V8. All of 160 KW!

--
Don McKenzie

 

[Barry OGrady]

On 19 Mar 2011 08:03:22 GMT, Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

On 2011-03-15, Barry OGrady <atheist@hotmail.com.au> wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 09:44:46 +1100, Don McKenzie <5V@2.5A> wrote:

On 16-Mar-11 8:53 AM, kreed wrote:
On Mar 16, 5:26 am, Don McKenzie<5...@2.5A> wrote:

Who would use that piece of crap anyway when you have Firefiox ?

I agree kreed, but...

Users are forced to use it when micro$oft, and some other products do an upgrade, or call a browser, and they do
actually force you into it.

If it was up to me, I would kill the thing.
There should be a law punishable by death (or worse), against apps not using the default browser.

Perhaps direct an attack of the relentless Roddle-bot, or the recently discovered Godzilla Sea Monkey, against
non-compliant authors.

I assume that xp users mustn't install the new version. After all, one so called expert in that article claims 67 per
cent of corporate desktops are using xp.

Cheers Don...

Firefox still has bugs that make it unusable at times.

IE can't download dynamic content over https.

Firefox bugs


Add-ons Blocklist

This page lists blocklisted add-ons that should no longer be used with
Mozilla products.

* McAfee Site Advisor, versions below 3.3.1 for Firefox 4. Reason:
incompatibility breaks core Firefox features (see bug 637542)
* RelevantKnowledge, version 1.3.328.4 and below for Firefox.
Reason: high crash volume (see bug 615518)
* Java 2 Plugin v1.5_00-1.6_99. Reason: These versions of the Java
plugin are no longer supported by Oracle and cause severe stability
issues for Firefox 3.6 and later (see bug 634639)
* Bandoo, version 5.0 for Firefox 3.6a1pre and higher. Reason:
high crash volume (see bug 629634)
* Shopper Reports, version 3.1.22.0 for all applications. Reason:
high crash volume (see bug 630191)
* Browser Update, all versions. Reason: spyware/adware with no
user value masquerading as a Firefox update (see bug 629717)
* Skype extension, versions below 5.2.0.7165 for Firefox. Reason:
high volume of crashes and severe performance issues. Please update to
the latest version. For more information, please read our
announcement.
* Bing Bar for Firefox. Reason: security issue, blocked at
Microsoft's request (see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Default Manager, v2.2 for Firefox. Reason: security issue,
blocked at Microsoft's request (see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Search Helper Extension, v1.0 for Firefox. Reason: security
issue, blocked at Microsoft's request (see
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2430460).
* Internet Download Manager, v2.1-3.3 for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer.
Reason: caused startup crashes (see bug 382356).
* Free Download Manager, v1.0-1.3.1 for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer.
Reason: high crash volume (see bug 408445).
* Yahoo Application State Plugin, v1.0.0.5 and older for Firefox
3.0a1 and newer. Reason: high crash volume (see bug 419127).
* Vietnamese Language Pack, v2.0 for all applications. Reason:
corrupted files (see bug 432406).
* Apple QuickTime Plugin, v7.1.*, for all Firefox 3 versions on
Windows. Reason: remote code execution in multiple versions (see bug
430826).
* Crawler Toolbar, for Firefox 3.0a1 and newer. Reason: high crash
volume (see bug 441649).
* Daemon Tools Toolbar, versions older than 1.0.0.5, for all
applications. Reason: high crash volume (see bug 459850).
* AVG SafeSearch, versions older than 8.5, for all applications.
Reason: high crash volume and stability issues (see bug 527135).
* Enigmail, versions older than 0.97a, for Thunderbird 3.0pre and
newer. Reason: high crash volume and other stability issues (see bug
531047). Users should update Enigmail.
* YSlow, version 2.0.5, for Firefox 3.5.7 and newer. Reason: high
crash volume and other stability issues (see bug 542686). Users should
update to YSlow 2.0.6.
* Viewpoint Media Player, all versions, for Firefox 3.0 and newer.
Reason: vendor claims incompatibility with 3.0+, high crash volume and
other stability issues (see bug 539282). For more information, visit
the vendor page.
* Java Deployment Toolkit, versions 6.0.200.0 and older. Reason:
security vulnerabilities (see bug 558584). For more information, visit
the vendor page.
* Internet Download Manager, versions 6.9.8 and older, for Firefox
3.7a1pre and newer. Reason: high crash volume and other stability
issues (see bug 578443).

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