I give in

Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 8:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 5:48 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is the
green
inclined existing government that is running the existing
renewable dependent power grid now.

SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.


** No they don't.

They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants - the
kind
that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
efficiencies of
60%
are possible with 500MW turbines.

It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
expected to
run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours per
year,
just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it
uses
more
fuel, because you come out ahead economically.

While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can buy a
new
one
with
the money saved?

WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?

Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so people
tend
to lump anything electric into one group which is a better idea
anyway
Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used

**Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another thinly
disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global
warming
and
that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal with
it.
You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just
political,
rather than technical.

I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims
that
the
Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of course
and as
usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state LIBERAL
government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you
refuse to
accept.

Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.

**You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the
thread, by
launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was the
Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets that
caused the problem faced by SA today.

If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU
should
not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The
Greens
have consistently fought various state governments to prevent the
sale
of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private companies
are
profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom line is
either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH, are
always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital infrastructure to
private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It
ain't
our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have been
sold in the first place.

Which brings us back to the only major political party that fought
against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you
hate
with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that actually
stand for the people. IE: You and me.

Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.

Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.

Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem
that SA
has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power supply
which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control. THAT is
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government that
privatised parts of the network.

it should be under the control of the government and if it is not
working, regardless of who caused it the government in power could and
should fix it.

**And just how will the government do that? Take as much space as you
require to explain the legal implications of the government breaching a
contract with the private operator. How much will such a thing cost the
taxpayer?

They should just sit back and do nothing and know they will never be
blamed by Trevor because they did not do it

**Ok, dickbrain, once more:

* How will the government take back control of the gas-fired power plant?
* What are the legal and financial ramifications of violating the
contract that the Lieberal government established with the owner of the
plant?
* How much will the SA taxpayer have to stump up?

Answer the fucking questions, you boob.

Why should I answer questions deliberately designed to give more ammo to
your crusade and add reams of your crap in rebuttal.
Or should we just leave it, sit back,do nothing and like you just say
the libs caused it.

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?



As far as I am concerned the ruling government has the
responsibility to
be seen fixing it, not just sit back and blame everyone else and do
nothing.

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?


They may yet do something and we can all start on the next worse

There are companies that were going broke, moved to Victoria because of
costs and are now in a worse state because of power costs.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.





Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

Clear?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?
 
On 14/02/2017 11:51 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 8:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 5:48 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is the
green
inclined existing government that is running the existing
renewable dependent power grid now.

SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.


** No they don't.

They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants - the
kind
that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
efficiencies of
60%
are possible with 500MW turbines.

It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
expected to
run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours per
year,
just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it
uses
more
fuel, because you come out ahead economically.

While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can buy a
new
one
with
the money saved?

WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?

Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so
people
tend
to lump anything electric into one group which is a better idea
anyway
Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used

**Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another thinly
disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global
warming
and
that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal with
it.
You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just
political,
rather than technical.

I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims
that
the
Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of course
and as
usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state
LIBERAL
government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you
refuse to
accept.

Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.

**You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the
thread, by
launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was the
Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets that
caused the problem faced by SA today.

If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU
should
not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The
Greens
have consistently fought various state governments to prevent the
sale
of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private companies
are
profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom line is
either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH, are
always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital infrastructure to
private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It
ain't
our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have
been
sold in the first place.

Which brings us back to the only major political party that fought
against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you
hate
with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that actually
stand for the people. IE: You and me.

Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.

Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.

Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem
that SA
has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power
supply
which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control.
THAT is
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government that
privatised parts of the network.

it should be under the control of the government and if it is not
working, regardless of who caused it the government in power could
and
should fix it.

**And just how will the government do that? Take as much space as you
require to explain the legal implications of the government breaching a
contract with the private operator. How much will such a thing cost the
taxpayer?

They should just sit back and do nothing and know they will never be
blamed by Trevor because they did not do it

**Ok, dickbrain, once more:

* How will the government take back control of the gas-fired power plant?
* What are the legal and financial ramifications of violating the
contract that the Lieberal government established with the owner of the
plant?
* How much will the SA taxpayer have to stump up?

Answer the fucking questions, you boob.

Why should I answer questions deliberately designed to give more ammo to
your crusade and add reams of your crap in rebuttal.

**Because, you clown, you just demanded that the government breach it's
contract with the private operator. Presumably, you know what the
ramifications of that violation will involve. If you don't, then you
need to find out, before your shoot your stupid, fucking mouth off.

Or should we just leave it, sit back,do nothing and like you just say
the libs caused it.

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?


As far as I am concerned the ruling government has the
responsibility to
be seen fixing it, not just sit back and blame everyone else and do
nothing.

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

They may yet do something and we can all start on the next worse

There are companies that were going broke, moved to Victoria
because of
costs and are now in a worse state because of power costs.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

Clear?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation of electricity assets across the nation?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 14/02/2017 11:51 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 8:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 5:48 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is
the
green
inclined existing government that is running the existing
renewable dependent power grid now.

SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.


** No they don't.

They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants - the
kind
that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
efficiencies of
60%
are possible with 500MW turbines.

It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
expected to
run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours per
year,
just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it
uses
more
fuel, because you come out ahead economically.

While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can buy a
new
one
with
the money saved?

WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?

Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so
people
tend
to lump anything electric into one group which is a better idea
anyway
Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used

**Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another thinly
disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global
warming
and
that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal
with
it.
You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just
political,
rather than technical.

I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims
that
the
Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of
course
and as
usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state
LIBERAL
government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you
refuse to
accept.

Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.

**You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the
thread, by
launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was the
Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets
that
caused the problem faced by SA today.

If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU
should
not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The
Greens
have consistently fought various state governments to prevent the
sale
of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private companies
are
profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom
line is
either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH, are
always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital
infrastructure to
private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It
ain't
our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have
been
sold in the first place.

Which brings us back to the only major political party that fought
against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you
hate
with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that
actually
stand for the people. IE: You and me.

Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.

Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.

Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem
that SA
has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power
supply
which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control.
THAT is
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government that
privatised parts of the network.

it should be under the control of the government and if it is not
working, regardless of who caused it the government in power could
and
should fix it.

**And just how will the government do that? Take as much space as you
require to explain the legal implications of the government
breaching a
contract with the private operator. How much will such a thing cost
the
taxpayer?

They should just sit back and do nothing and know they will never be
blamed by Trevor because they did not do it

**Ok, dickbrain, once more:

* How will the government take back control of the gas-fired power
plant?
* What are the legal and financial ramifications of violating the
contract that the Lieberal government established with the owner of the
plant?
* How much will the SA taxpayer have to stump up?

Answer the fucking questions, you boob.

Why should I answer questions deliberately designed to give more ammo to
your crusade and add reams of your crap in rebuttal.

**Because, you clown, you just demanded that the government breach it's
contract with the private operator. Presumably, you know what the
ramifications of that violation will involve. If you don't, then you
need to find out, before your shoot your stupid, fucking mouth off.







Or should we just leave it, sit back,do nothing and like you just say
the libs caused it.

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

I have never said the liberals did not sell off the assets, you are the
one trying to get me to say it to give you room on the soapbox for more
ranting and name calling
As far as I am concerned the ruling government has the
responsibility to
be seen fixing it, not just sit back and blame everyone else and do
nothing.

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?



They may yet do something and we can all start on the next worse

There are companies that were going broke, moved to Victoria
because of
costs and are now in a worse state because of power costs.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.






Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling

Clear?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation of electricity assets across the nation?

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling
 
On 14/02/2017 8:30 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 14/02/2017 11:51 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 8:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 5:48 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is
the
green
inclined existing government that is running the
existing
renewable dependent power grid now.

SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.


** No they don't.

They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants - the
kind
that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
efficiencies of
60%
are possible with 500MW turbines.

It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
expected to
run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours
per
year,
just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it
uses
more
fuel, because you come out ahead economically.

While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can
buy a
new
one
with
the money saved?

WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?

Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so
people
tend
to lump anything electric into one group which is a better
idea
anyway
Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used

**Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another thinly
disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global
warming
and
that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal
with
it.
You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just
political,
rather than technical.

I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims
that
the
Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of
course
and as
usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state
LIBERAL
government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you
refuse to
accept.

Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.

**You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the
thread, by
launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was the
Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets
that
caused the problem faced by SA today.

If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU
should
not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The
Greens
have consistently fought various state governments to prevent the
sale
of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private
companies
are
profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom
line is
either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH,
are
always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital
infrastructure to
private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It
ain't
our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have
been
sold in the first place.

Which brings us back to the only major political party that
fought
against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you
hate
with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that
actually
stand for the people. IE: You and me.

Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.

Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.

Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem
that SA
has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power
supply
which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control.
THAT is
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government that
privatised parts of the network.

it should be under the control of the government and if it is not
working, regardless of who caused it the government in power could
and
should fix it.

**And just how will the government do that? Take as much space as you
require to explain the legal implications of the government
breaching a
contract with the private operator. How much will such a thing cost
the
taxpayer?

They should just sit back and do nothing and know they will never be
blamed by Trevor because they did not do it

**Ok, dickbrain, once more:

* How will the government take back control of the gas-fired power
plant?
* What are the legal and financial ramifications of violating the
contract that the Lieberal government established with the owner of the
plant?
* How much will the SA taxpayer have to stump up?

Answer the fucking questions, you boob.

Why should I answer questions deliberately designed to give more ammo to
your crusade and add reams of your crap in rebuttal.

**Because, you clown, you just demanded that the government breach it's
contract with the private operator. Presumably, you know what the
ramifications of that violation will involve. If you don't, then you
need to find out, before your shoot your stupid, fucking mouth off.

**Answer the questions.

Or should we just leave it, sit back,do nothing and like you just
say
the libs caused it.

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell
off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

I have never said the liberals did not sell off the assets, you are the
one trying to get me to say it to give you room on the soapbox for more
ranting and name calling

**You have NEVER acknowledged that the Lieberals started the problems in
SA. Instead, you blame the Greens! Fuck me, when will you stop lying?
The Greens fought against the sale of electricity assets. A fact you
NEVER acknowledge. Instead, you just keep on blaming the Greens for
something they didn't do and, in fact, they tried to stop it!

WTF is wrong with you?

As far as I am concerned the ruling government has the
responsibility to
be seen fixing it, not just sit back and blame everyone else and do
nothing.

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?


They may yet do something and we can all start on the next worse

There are companies that were going broke, moved to Victoria
because of
costs and are now in a worse state because of power costs.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling

**You BLAMED the Greens for the problems that they not only never
created, but tried to stop! Fuck me, when will you stop lying?

Clear?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation of electricity assets across the nation?

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling

**You have consistently riled against the Greens. It was the Greens that
tried to stop the mess that SA (and most other states) now find
themselves in. Consumers are held hostage by power companies. The Greens
tried to stop electricity assets from being sold.

When will you admit that the Greens are the good guys here?


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au
 
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 14/02/2017 8:30 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 14/02/2017 11:51 AM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 8:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 5:48 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 13/02/2017 1:52 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 5:24 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 12/02/2017 4:14 PM, F Murtz wrote:
~misfit~ wrote:
Once upon a time on usenet Sylvia Else wrote:
On 11/02/2017 2:47 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
Sylvia Else wrote:

On 11/02/2017 1:36 PM, F Murtz wrote:
It was not the greens that sold the power off but it is
the
green
inclined existing government that is running the
existing
renewable dependent power grid now.

SA needs to install some diesel generator plant.


** No they don't.

They may need to build a couple of natural gas plants -
the
kind
that use turbines and not simply boil water. Thermal
efficiencies of
60%
are possible with 500MW turbines.

It's entirely a matter of the period during which they're
expected to
run. You don't build expensive plant that runs only hours
per
year,
just to save on fuel. You build cheap plant, even though it
uses
more
fuel, because you come out ahead economically.

While the planet slowly dies... Oh well perhaps they can
buy a
new
one
with
the money saved?

WTF is this shite doing in aus.electronics anyway?

Mainly because there is no purely electrical news group so
people
tend
to lump anything electric into one group which is a better
idea
anyway
Electricity is electricity no matter how it is used

**Bullshit. Like most of your posts, it was just another
thinly
disguised attacks on those who accept the reality of global
warming
and
that humans must address the release of CO2 in order to deal
with
it.
You are just another idiot denier and your posts are just
political,
rather than technical.

I cite as proof, your constant and completely erroneous claims
that
the
Greens caused the problems in South Australia. You are, of
course
and as
usual, wrong. The electricity assets sold off by the state
LIBERAL
government caused the problems faced by SA today. A fact you
refuse to
accept.

Here you go off on a tangent with non electrical crap again.

**You're not fooling anyone, you dumb shit. YOU started the
thread, by
launching an attack on the Greens, when everyone knows it was
the
Lieberal state government, by selling the SA electrical assets
that
caused the problem faced by SA today.

If YOU don't want off-topic thread in aus.electronics, then YOU
should
not start such threads. Moreover, get your facts straight. The
Greens
have consistently fought various state governments to prevent
the
sale
of vital electrical assets to private companies. Private
companies
are
profit-focused. They're not particularly interested in how much
inconvenience is caused to consumers, provided their bottom
line is
either enhanced or not negatively affected. Governments, OTOH,
are
always consumer (voter) focused. By selling vital
infrastructure to
private concerns, Lieberal and Labor governments can claim: "It
ain't
our fault." It is, of course, since the stuff should never have
been
sold in the first place.

Which brings us back to the only major political party that
fought
against the sale of electrical assets - The Greens. The guys you
hate
with such venom and irrationality, are the very party that
actually
stand for the people. IE: You and me.

Fuck me, you are dumber than dog-shit.

Keep arguing with me, if if you like. I'll bury you with facts.

Facts that wander off into past problems instead of the problem
that SA
has the most expensive and at the moment most unreliable power
supply
which is under the governments control

**Again: The power generation is partly under private control.
THAT is
the problem and it was set-up by the state Lieberal government
that
privatised parts of the network.

it should be under the control of the government and if it is not
working, regardless of who caused it the government in power could
and
should fix it.

**And just how will the government do that? Take as much space as
you
require to explain the legal implications of the government
breaching a
contract with the private operator. How much will such a thing cost
the
taxpayer?

They should just sit back and do nothing and know they will never be
blamed by Trevor because they did not do it

**Ok, dickbrain, once more:

* How will the government take back control of the gas-fired power
plant?
* What are the legal and financial ramifications of violating the
contract that the Lieberal government established with the owner of
the
plant?
* How much will the SA taxpayer have to stump up?

Answer the fucking questions, you boob.

Why should I answer questions deliberately designed to give more
ammo to
your crusade and add reams of your crap in rebuttal.

**Because, you clown, you just demanded that the government breach it's
contract with the private operator. Presumably, you know what the
ramifications of that violation will involve. If you don't, then you
need to find out, before your shoot your stupid, fucking mouth off.

**Answer the questions.








Or should we just leave it, sit back,do nothing and like you just
say
the libs caused it.

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell
off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

**_I_ don't "say" the Lieberals sold off the assets. They DID sell off
the assets. Fuck me. You will never admit it, will you?

I have never said the liberals did not sell off the assets, you are the
one trying to get me to say it to give you room on the soapbox for more
ranting and name calling

**You have NEVER acknowledged that the Lieberals started the problems in
SA. Instead, you blame the Greens! Fuck me, when will you stop lying?
The Greens fought against the sale of electricity assets. A fact you
NEVER acknowledge. Instead, you just keep on blaming the Greens for
something they didn't do and, in fact, they tried to stop it!

WTF is wrong with you?





As far as I am concerned the ruling government has the
responsibility to
be seen fixing it, not just sit back and blame everyone else and do
nothing.

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?

**Why do you think they are doing nothing?





They may yet do something and we can all start on the next worse

There are companies that were going broke, moved to Victoria
because of
costs and are now in a worse state because of power costs.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.

**Name those companies.







Again: The Greens tried to stop the privatisation.

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling

**You BLAMED the Greens for the problems that they not only never
created, but tried to stop! Fuck me, when will you stop lying?



Clear?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation
of electricity assets across the nation?

**Clear? Do you acknowledge that the Greens tried to stop
privatisation of electricity assets across the nation?

I have Never said they did not, you are the one trying to get me to say
it to give you more room on the soapbox for ranting and name calling

**You have consistently riled against the Greens. It was the Greens that
tried to stop the mess that SA (and most other states) now find
themselves in. Consumers are held hostage by power companies. The Greens
tried to stop electricity assets from being sold.

When will you admit that the Greens are the good guys here? :)
 

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