How to Stop Overthinking: 8 Tips From a Therapist...

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:15:56 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:09:03 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:57 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 1:45:17 PM UTC-5, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"
What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?

Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.
20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

This woman, the Ms. 80/20 rule, is changing peoples\' lives:
http://healthymindtoolkit.com/

I have a friend from high school who\'s an OCD/anxiety-disorder
therapist, business has been very good lately I think she just bought a
second home.

Yes. Change the lives of frightened, anxious, neurotic people by
relieving them of excess income.

Tends to be covered in large part by health insurance even in the US.
People with severe OCD might wash their hands 30 or 50 times a day even
prior to the pandemic, till they\'re raw and bloody. A crippling
neuro-psychiatric disorder that they never asked for, that many would
pay any price to cure, due to some error in brain biochemistry that
responds poorly to medication but thankfully does seem to respond well
to directed behavior-modification therapy.

Humans aren\'t Pavlov\'s dogs but some of the same principles apply, if
you can train it to salivate when the bell rings you can also train it
to not-salivate when the bell rings, through exercises to weaken those
associations.

Our great-granparents, if they had been told about the world of their
descendents, would have marveled at how happy we must all be.


One of my great-grandfathers was lost at sea for a few days on a fishing
trip until he was picked up by a Portuguese trawler. He was later one of
the last captains of the pre-dreadnought Indiana-class battleship
Massachusetts.

I like swimming but hate heights which, y\'know. clearly proves
Lamarckian inheritance is real

I was totally fearless about heights until I hit about the age of 40,
and started getting intense vertigo near an edge, or even on a ladder.
That gradually faded away and is now almost gone. Fortunately,
somehow, it never affected my skiing.

Lack of snow does affect my skiing.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:45:09 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 3:40 PM, amdx wrote:
On 12/13/2020 2:15 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 12/13/2020 2:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:09:03 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:57 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 1:45:17 PM UTC-5,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time
and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a
given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only
yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"
What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?

Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a
plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues
like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline
personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is,
underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.
20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

This woman, the Ms. 80/20 rule, is changing peoples\' lives:
http://healthymindtoolkit.com/

I have a friend from high school who\'s an OCD/anxiety-disorder
therapist, business has been very good lately I think she just bought a
second home.

Yes. Change the lives of frightened, anxious, neurotic people by
relieving them of excess income.

Tends to be covered in large part by health insurance even in the US.
People with severe OCD might wash their hands 30 or 50 times a day
even prior to the pandemic, till they\'re raw and bloody. A crippling
neuro-psychiatric disorder that they never asked for, that many would
pay any price to cure, due to some error in brain biochemistry that
responds poorly to medication but thankfully does seem to respond well
to directed behavior-modification therapy.

Humans aren\'t Pavlov\'s dogs but some of the same principles apply, if
you can train it to salivate when the bell rings you can also train it
to not-salivate when the bell rings, through exercises to weaken those
associations.

I every morning I start my coffee brewing and then get on the computer,
as soon as I hear the burbling of the coffeepot finishing I get up and
get my coffee.

I did my normal routine the other morning, I heard the burble of the
coffee pot, got up walked to the kitchen then realized I\'d already had
my two cups

and my wife made had a made pot, which is unusual.

                             Mikek




Sounds like you have a caffeine addiction to me. why anyone queues up at
a drive-thru Dunkin\' Donuts line 15 cars deep at some god-forsaken hour
of the morning is also puzzling behavior to people who don\'t have it.

There is a theory that europeans didn\'t actually do much until tea,
sugar, coffee, and chocolate were imported in volume.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:26:56 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.


True fats, but another true fact is that a lot of clients don\'t
understand what therapy is supposed to be about.

It\'s mostly about paying someone to listen to their whining, when
their friends and family don\'t want to hear it any more.

There are \"therapists\" who cater to that market. Better ones will cut a
client short and remind them that sessions are about the client, not
about what other people are up to, which mostly can\'t be controlled.

My best friend, now gone, was the chief of psyciatric residents at Mt
Sinai. I expressed skepticism about the value of talk therapy. She
mostly agreed, but noted that once in a while it really works.

But telling Americans things they don\'t want to hear about themselves is
rarely popular so there\'s an art to framing it in the right way, in
large part this is what they go to therapist-school for.

Why do you always trash Americans? That calls for therapy, for sure.

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:29:01 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.


True fats, but another true fact is that a lot of clients don\'t
understand what therapy is supposed to be about.

It\'s mostly about paying someone to listen to their whining, when
their friends and family don\'t want to hear it any more.

Productive therapy is
goal-oriented

The goal being long-term revenue.



They spot clients like John Larkin a mile away, on the rare occasions
they show up in an office. \"Are you even a real doctor...\"

Wrong. I don\'t need a therapist.

 

[legg]

Don\'t see a lot of evidence of over-thinking going on
out there . . . .

RL

 

[Sjouke Burry]

On 13.12.20 22:27, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:29:01 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.


True fats, but another true fact is that a lot of clients don\'t
understand what therapy is supposed to be about.

It\'s mostly about paying someone to listen to their whining, when
their friends and family don\'t want to hear it any more.

Productive therapy is
goal-oriented

The goal being long-term revenue.



They spot clients like John Larkin a mile away, on the rare occasions
they show up in an office. \"Are you even a real doctor...\"

Wrong. I don\'t need a therapist.

Tut Tut... You THINK you do not need one.......

 

[John Larkin]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 23:31:51 +0100, Sjouke Burry
<burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> wrote:

On 13.12.20 22:27, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:29:01 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.


True fats, but another true fact is that a lot of clients don\'t
understand what therapy is supposed to be about.

It\'s mostly about paying someone to listen to their whining, when
their friends and family don\'t want to hear it any more.

Productive therapy is
goal-oriented

The goal being long-term revenue.



They spot clients like John Larkin a mile away, on the rare occasions
they show up in an office. \"Are you even a real doctor...\"

Wrong. I don\'t need a therapist.

Tut Tut... You THINK you do not need one.......

Actually, I\'m autistic, bipolar, and schitzotypic. It all works fine.
I was in a gloomy mood one visit, and my MD was basically required to
send me directly to an on-call psychiatrist, per suicide liability
rules.

We had a great talk for a half hour or so, a really smart and cool
guy. We agreed that I wouldn\'t benefit from any sort of talk
treatment. We discussed meds but agreed that the potentially dulling
side effects could be worse than a little volatility. He understood
about engineering, about inventing things.

I\'d actually like to visit him again, or buy him a beer. Really
interesting guy.

My best friend, the psychiatrist, said that I\'m crazy \"but you handle
it so well.\"

Design benefits from a bit of crazy, staggering around in the lunatic
fringes of the solution space. That\'s why a lot of great artists were
schitzoid too. It is better to be crazy at a low duty cycle.

I\'ve seen a few youtube clips from A Beautiful Mind, about
mathematician John Nash. Gotta see the movie.

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:01:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
<bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

>We\'re living in the era of pseudo-mathematicization which somehow garners instant respect, awe and admiration for ideas, people, places and things, and apparently conjectures. In the 15th-18th centuries it was Latinization that did the trick. Just give something a Latin name and voila, you have the imprimatur of the gods of antiquity.

It was also considered to make one appear more erudite to write in
Greek! I recall Carl Jung\'s Synchronicity had several whole paragraphs
in Greek - with no translation in the notes!

 

[Cursitor Doom]

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:03 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

Bit like shamen, then. Perhaps one in five can so the business but the
majority are either out and out frauds or self-delusional.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 8:26:29 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:26:56 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip>

There are \"therapists\" who cater to that market. Better ones will cut a
client short and remind them that sessions are about the client, not
about what other people are up to, which mostly can\'t be controlled.

My best friend, now gone, was the chief of psyciatric residents at Mt
Sinai. I expressed skepticism about the value of talk therapy. She
mostly agreed, but noted that once in a while it really works.

\" Cognitive behavioral therapy\" does seem to work for some problems. and some pateints.

But telling Americans things they don\'t want to hear about themselves is
rarely popular so there\'s an art to framing it in the right way, in
large part this is what they go to therapist-school for.

Why do you always trash Americans? That calls for therapy, for sure.

He\'s an American, living in America. He can say what Americans do with some confidence. He\'s sensible enough to avoid making comments about the rest of the world.

This isn\'t \"trashing Americans\". It\'s just limiting the observation to the population he knows. Your enthusiasm for finding anti-American content in everything you read probably does call for therapy, and I\'m administering a bit of carefully targeted scepticism. As a therapy it is clearly ineffective, but cognitive behavioral therapy does depend on getting the patient to think, and John Larkin doesn\'t seem to like doing that.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[gray_wolf]

On 13/12/2020 3:19 pm, John Larkin wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:45:09 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 3:40 PM, amdx wrote:
On 12/13/2020 2:15 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 12/13/2020 2:32 PM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:09:03 -0500, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:57 PM, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 1:45:17 PM UTC-5,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time
and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a
given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only
yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"
What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?

Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a
plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues
like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline
personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is,
underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.
20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

This woman, the Ms. 80/20 rule, is changing peoples\' lives:
http://healthymindtoolkit.com/

I have a friend from high school who\'s an OCD/anxiety-disorder
therapist, business has been very good lately I think she just bought a
second home.

Yes. Change the lives of frightened, anxious, neurotic people by
relieving them of excess income.

Tends to be covered in large part by health insurance even in the US.
People with severe OCD might wash their hands 30 or 50 times a day
even prior to the pandemic, till they\'re raw and bloody. A crippling
neuro-psychiatric disorder that they never asked for, that many would
pay any price to cure, due to some error in brain biochemistry that
responds poorly to medication but thankfully does seem to respond well
to directed behavior-modification therapy.

Humans aren\'t Pavlov\'s dogs but some of the same principles apply, if
you can train it to salivate when the bell rings you can also train it
to not-salivate when the bell rings, through exercises to weaken those
associations.

I every morning I start my coffee brewing and then get on the computer,
as soon as I hear the burbling of the coffeepot finishing I get up and
get my coffee.

I did my normal routine the other morning, I heard the burble of the
coffee pot, got up walked to the kitchen then realized I\'d already had
my two cups

and my wife made had a made pot, which is unusual.

                             Mikek




Sounds like you have a caffeine addiction to me. why anyone queues up at
a drive-thru Dunkin\' Donuts line 15 cars deep at some god-forsaken hour
of the morning is also puzzling behavior to people who don\'t have it.

There is a theory that europeans didn\'t actually do much until tea,
sugar, coffee, and chocolate were imported in volume.

I\'ll buy that! The big three for me too.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 12:05:14 PM UTC+11, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 11:01:59 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

We\'re living in the era of pseudo-mathematicization which somehow garners instant respect, awe and admiration for ideas, people, places and things, and apparently conjectures. In the 15th-18th centuries it was Latinization that did the trick. Just give something a Latin name and voila, you have the imprimatur of the gods of antiquity.

It was also considered to make one appear more erudite to write in
Greek! I recall Carl Jung\'s Synchronicity had several whole paragraphs
in Greek - with no translation in the notes!

Classical education did involve learning Greek and Latin, so educated people could be expected to read both.

Learning mathematics does seem to be more useful, and if you can express what you want to say in mathematical terms it can be easier for other people to test.

Pseudo-mathematical formulations are less useful, but Fred Bloggs seems to have lost the capacity to distinguish between real and imitation mathematics, and seems to have decided that anything he can\'t follow is fraudulent - as opposed to demanding.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:06:32 +0000, Cursitor Doom <cd@noreply.com>
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:03 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

Bit like shamen, then. Perhaps one in five can so the business but the
majority are either out and out frauds or self-delusional.

The first person most people lie to is themselves.

Then, their circle of peers.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

The best designs are necessarily accidental.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Tuesday, December 15, 2020 at 3:14:58 AM UTC+11, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 01:06:32 +0000, Cursitor Doom <c...@noreply.com
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:03 -0800, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

Bit like shamen, then. Perhaps one in five can so the business but the
majority are either out and out frauds or self-delusional.

The first person most people lie to is themselves.

John Larkin does make a habit of it. Some people can be trained out of it, but egomaniacs need their flattery, and most of them have to rely on themselves to deliver their maintenance dose.

> Then, their circle of peers.

If you need flattery, you tend to hang around with people who will supply it, and that usually means flattering them enough to keep them willing to flatter you.

Cursitor Doom seems to rely on sources that will feed his need for right-wing conspiracy theories, and he flatters them by taking them seriously.

They aren\'t typical.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[bitrex]

On 12/13/2020 8:51 PM, Bill Sloman wrote:

On Monday, December 14, 2020 at 8:26:29 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 15:26:56 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 2:34 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 14:05:05 -0500, bitrex <us...@example.net> wrote:

On 12/13/2020 1:45 PM, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:

snip

There are \"therapists\" who cater to that market. Better ones will cut a
client short and remind them that sessions are about the client, not
about what other people are up to, which mostly can\'t be controlled.

My best friend, now gone, was the chief of psyciatric residents at Mt
Sinai. I expressed skepticism about the value of talk therapy. She
mostly agreed, but noted that once in a while it really works.

\" Cognitive behavioral therapy\" does seem to work for some problems. and some pateints.

But telling Americans things they don\'t want to hear about themselves is
rarely popular so there\'s an art to framing it in the right way, in
large part this is what they go to therapist-school for.

Why do you always trash Americans? That calls for therapy, for sure.

He\'s an American, living in America. He can say what Americans do with some confidence. He\'s sensible enough to avoid making comments about the rest of the world.

This isn\'t \"trashing Americans\". It\'s just limiting the observation to the population he knows. Your enthusiasm for finding anti-American content in everything you read probably does call for therapy, and I\'m administering a bit of carefully targeted scepticism. As a therapy it is clearly ineffective, but cognitive behavioral therapy does depend on getting the patient to think, and John Larkin doesn\'t seem to like doing that.

Mr. Larkin seems to have learned a couple skills in life, electronics
design and gas-lighting. In his defense that\'s one skill more than the
average white American of retirement age tends to have, but as the
saying goes \"don\'t quit your day job.\"

 

[bitrex]

On 12/13/2020 8:06 PM, Cursitor Doom wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 10:45:03 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 09:30:30 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fredbloggs.fred@gmail.com> wrote:

\"Practice the 80/20 rule - The first twenty percent of our time and effort often produce eighty percent of the benefit from a given outcome; the remaining eighty percent of our effort only yields an additional twenty percent of the benefit.\"

What does he mean by Practice? Maybe only work the 20% that\'s
productive? Everyone work an 8-hour week?


Now how could they possibly know that! Sounds suspiciously like a plagiarism of Pareto\'s famous observation but without the genius.

\"Overthinking is also often associated with mental health issues like depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress and borderline personality disorder.\"

The real problem is overthinking underthinkers, that is, underthinkers who overthink, such as they are capable.

20% of therapists do some net good, and 80% are delusional hacks who
do more harm than good, and charge a lot for that.

Bit like shamen, then. Perhaps one in five can so the business but the
majority are either out and out frauds or self-delusional.

If you\'re opposed to gay marriage, you can just say \"No\" when a gay
person asks you to marry them.

Please stay tuned for many more time-saving left-libertarian life hacks.
That\'ll be $135.