How to build a transmitter in the 20HZ range ?? Please Help

[Robert Baer]

Eeyore wrote:

Robert Blass wrote:


On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:21:14 -0600, donald <donald@notinmyinbox.com
sayd the following:


Robert Blass wrote:

I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.

What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?

Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.


Uterly different technology.

Basically yout hi-fis were shit and had no EMC capability.

Graham

Solem State electronics inherently have low EMC tolerance; Vacuum

Power on the other hand had a much higher EMC tolerance.

 

[Eeyore]

Robert Baer wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Robert Blass wrote:
donald sayd the following:
Robert Blass wrote:

I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.

What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?

Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.

Uterly different technology.

Basically yout hi-fis were shit and had no EMC capability.

Solid State electronics inherently have low EMC tolerance; Vacuum
Power on the other hand had a much higher EMC tolerance.

Only because the higher rectification threshold makes it more tolerant.

I've designed pro-audio mixers that we tested for EMC sensitivity in the CB
band by using a handset right next to one. Not a sqeak. It's simply good
(grounding) design that's needed.

Graham

 

[Frank Raffaeli]

On Sep 27, 7:12 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com
sayd the following:

Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
it

Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
send thumping music to the inside of my home?
I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
and rattles all the windows in my house.

I'm reacting to someone violating me and fail to see how that would
make me a stupid person.

Would you call a victim of an assault stupid for purchasing a gun and
obtaining a conceal and carry permit?

I should have the right to have a quiet setting "inside" my own home.
I am not asking for silence outdoors or anywhere else.

The people who are doing this are gangbangers and would likely
retaliate with violence if they found out I was the one who kept
calling the police.

To start, I shouldn't be the one needing to do anything at all.
Wishing to have a silent 'inside' home is not what I would call a
bizarre concept.

If this is true, then you're dealing with a psychopathic personality.
A radio transmitter won't help. Read this book:
Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us
(1993, 1999) ISBN 978-0671732615

And try to keep your finger off the trigger.

 

[Jamie]

Eeyore wrote:

Robert Blass wrote:


No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by


Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
this.

Graham

I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people

farting in public!.

I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
I must do to let loss so that I don't become
socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
your part.

http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

 

[David L. Jones]

On Sep 28, 10:03 am, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:20:21 -0400, "Tom Biasi"
tombi...@optonline.net> sayd the following:

20 Hz to 1KHz is only going to get into the speaker through wires. (barring
extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards )

I just need less than 200 feet of distance to transmit a simple sin
wave noise overlapping the stereo speakers inside a car driving by the
house.

That simply is not going to work.
You are wasting your time even talking about such an approach.
Where on earth did you get that idea from?

Can I suggest road spikes that are triggered by sound level

Dave.

 

[Jamie]

Robert Blass wrote:

I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.

I have a couple of hundred dollars to spend on this project and also
have a lot of free time these days on my hands.

As far as a electrical power source I have up to the 110 volts coming
into my home as a source and as low as a 1.5 volt battery. I also have
a power supply that mimics a standard car battery's 12 volts of power.

Can one of you get me started with the basics so that I can eventually
build such a device?

It's not for a job or college project and it is simply my need to
understand and learn this concept if possible.

I do know how to read simple, very simple, schematics.

Another Thing: I used a computer program many years ago that simulated
a very simple circuit to check for faults and errors. Does such a
program exist today in the Windows environment for simple designs
which is free or nearly free to troubleshoot the project to save as
much money as possible? I'd hate to spend $100 on parts and have it
blow up just because I made some rookie mistake if you understand what
I mean?

Read that to get some idea of what you're up against.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Very_low_frequency

http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

 

[Eeyore]

Jamie wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Robert Blass wrote:

No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by

Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
this.

I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
farting in public!.

I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
I must do to let loss so that I don't become
socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
your part.

Hardly. I go to rock gigs still.

Maybe you've never met the type who claim to 10kW stereos in their cars ?

Graham

 

[Jamie]

Eeyore wrote:

Jamie wrote:


Eeyore wrote:

Robert Blass wrote:


No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by

Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
this.

I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
farting in public!.

I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
I must do to let loss so that I don't become
socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
your part.


Hardly. I go to rock gigs still.

Maybe you've never met the type who claim to 10kW stereos in their cars ?

Graham

Not likely, because I normally associate with realistic people. I have

run into on occasion those claiming massive power rated systems in
their auto's only to find they don't know enough about the subject
matter to give an accurate report or have been miss led by those that
take advantage of the unknowing.


http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

 

[Eeyore]

Jamie wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Jamie wrote:
Eeyore wrote:
Robert Blass wrote:

No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by

Not a hope in hell. Take their plate numbers down and report them for
audible disturbance. Your local ordinances may have a clause to deal with
this.

I bet you have local ordinances set in place for people
farting in public!.

I'm almost 50, and still enjoy a little thumping in the car
now and then when it comes to music. It's just one of those things
I must do to let loss so that I don't become
socially detached from the real world which I see maybe an issue on
your part.


Hardly. I go to rock gigs still.

Maybe you've never met the type who claim to 10kW stereos in their cars ?

Not likely, because I normally associate with realistic people.

I said nothing about *associating* with them. Just hearing them pass by. The
only blessing is that they'll pay by being deaf by about 30.

I have run into on occasion those claiming massive power rated systems in
their auto's only to find they don't know enough about the subject
matter to give an accurate report or have been miss led by those that
take advantage of the unknowing.

This much is true. There are still some absurd power figures out there though.

Graham

 

[T]

In article <t5itd4lhr99jdvtseuan2etuo6s4tt34bc@xxx.org>,
blame@messenger.xcx says...

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:21:14 -0600, donald <donald@notinmyinbox.com
sayd the following:

Robert Blass wrote:
I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.

What makes you think this will work, at any power level ?


Because for a few years we had a guy who would drive up and down the
road with an amplified CB radio. This would come through load-n-clear
on any device connected to a speaker as long as it was in the on
position. When the device was off we'd never hear the CB guy talking.

I'm not talking about broadcasting for a large distance. I'd just like
to broadcast 100-200 feet toward the road is all.

That's ok, drive through a parking lot and key up on the 2m band and
you'll set off pretty much every car alarm you drive by.

I know it used to be prevalent with Ford vehicles since they used TRW
built systems that weren't the best shielded.

 

[T]

In article <h9itd4ln7bi1ergco1uqm4ei7o9tjjr9js@xxx.org>,
blame@messenger.xcx says...

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:35:40 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> sayd the
following:


"Robert Blass" <blame@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
news:i8msd491di2ol26le4inugefcihotclr8i@xxx.org...
I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.

So, is this a neighbor that has the volume to loud for you?
Mike



No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by, also
the same system for people who live 2 houses away from me.

I have nothing against loud music but this is literally shaking the
entire house, you can feel it deep into your own body. I don't think
that's fair so I'd like to see how they would feel.

If it's ok for them to interfere with me then they should be willing
to let me do the same thing.

What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

T wrote:

What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.

What he really needs is a pair of balls.


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[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

T wrote:
What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.


What he really needs is a pair of balls.

And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA


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[John Fields]

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 15:10:39 -0400, T <kd1s.nospam@cox.nospam.net>
wrote:

In article <h9itd4ln7bi1ergco1uqm4ei7o9tjjr9js@xxx.org>,
blame@messenger.xcx says...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:35:40 -0500, "amdx" <amdx@knology.net> sayd the
following:


"Robert Blass" <blame@messenger.xcx> wrote in message
news:i8msd491di2ol26le4inugefcihotclr8i@xxx.org...
I am in need of how exactly to build a transmitter @ 20hz-1KHZ at a
high enough wattage to overcome/overload a simple stereo speaker.
Yes I did mean 20 HERTZ to One Kilo-Hertz.

So, is this a neighbor that has the volume to loud for you?
Mike



No it's those loud bass thumping stereos from cars that drive by, also
the same system for people who live 2 houses away from me.

I have nothing against loud music but this is literally shaking the
entire house, you can feel it deep into your own body. I don't think
that's fair so I'd like to see how they would feel.

If it's ok for them to interfere with me then they should be willing
to let me do the same thing.



What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.

---
Energetic Metal Projectile?

Perhaps one of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG

fired from one of these:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrett_M82

JF

 

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Sep 27, 5:12 pm, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com
sayd the following:

Furthermore, this is what I think about you:
( ) We're really close, but still no cigar.
I agree with you're idea in general--maybe one day in the future...
( ) Sorry dude, but I don't think it would work
(x) This is a stupid idea, and you're a stupid person for suggesting
it

Then what do you call my dozen or so neighbors who think it's ok to
send thumping music to the inside of my home?
I'm talking about sound and bass so loud that it vibrates my own body
and rattles all the windows in my house.

I'm reacting to someone violating me and fail to see how that would
make me a stupid person.

Would you call a victim of an assault stupid for purchasing a gun and
obtaining a conceal and carry permit?

I should have the right to have a quiet setting "inside" my own home.
I am not asking for silence outdoors or anywhere else.

Maybe he's a veteran.
I'd cut slack on Fri. Sat. nights.

The people who are doing this are gangbangers and would likely
retaliate with violence if they found out I was the one who kept
calling the police.

To start, I shouldn't be the one needing to do anything at all.
Wishing to have a silent 'inside' home is not what I would call a
bizarre concept.

We have a "deaf guy" who thumps as he drives around
it's kinda funny.

For the protection of you and your neighbours
it's been known to install an exterior smoke
detector, that requires a lead into the interior
for the test control.
Loud noise has been known to activate an SD,
which you can 'test' for.
Legally defensive counter noise is an option.
Ken

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
T wrote:
What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.


What he really needs is a pair of balls.

And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA

The gun is optional. I've always preferred a big knife, like a bank
blade but a gun works, in a pinch.


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The first sign of insanity is denying that you're crazy.

 

[Eric]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Dirk Bruere at NeoPax wrote:
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
T wrote:
What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.

What he really needs is a pair of balls.
And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA


The gun is optional. I've always preferred a big knife, like a bank
blade but a gun works, in a pinch.


In this case an RPG might fit the bill better...

 

[Ken S. Tucker]

On Sep 28, 11:43 pm, "Den" <Inva...@someemail.com> wrote:

"George Jetson" <gjet...@spacely.com> wrote in message

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"Jasen Betts" <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote in message
news:gbn2p0$u8c$3@gonzo...
On 2008-09-28, Robert Blass <bl...@messenger.xcx> wrote:
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:26:53 -0700 (PDT), JeffM <jef...@email.com
sayd the following:

(x) Laws already exist that forbid your neighbor from being a jerk

I fear retaliation if I were to report the noise to the police.
Someone who is already violating a noise ordinance law won't be to shy
from violating yet another law.

so instead you propose to violate a different law in retalliation?

you'd do better to throw a brick with a note through his window.
it's cheaper and you have less chance of being caught.

Bye.
Jasen

Use a microwave oven with door removed, placed at the end of your
driveway. Check for pacemakers in the neighborhood first. Use only in
short bursts as local radio and Tv interference will be severe.

If you can't figure out how the door interlock switches work by yourself,
then you don't have the skills to pull this off.

Just leave the door on & use a jigsaw or sabre saw to cut the window out.

LOL, what does the neighbours cat smell like when
microwaved ... hot pussy?
Ken

 

[Rich Grise]

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 20:03:58 -0400, Robert Blass wrote:

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 13:20:21 -0400, "Tom Biasi"

20 Hz to 1KHz is only going to get into the speaker through wires. (barring
extreme magnetic energy to pull the cone out at 100 yards )

I just need less than 200 feet of distance to transmit a simple sin
wave noise overlapping the stereo speakers inside a car driving by the
house.

It can't be done. You have to have them arrested, or just shoot them
yourself.

Good Luck!
Rich

 

[Dirk Bruere at NeoPax]

John Fields wrote:

On Sun, 28 Sep 2008 20:51:30 +0100, Dirk Bruere at NeoPax
dirk.bruere@gmail.com> wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
T wrote:
What you really need is a focusable EMP generator.

What he really needs is a pair of balls.
And a gun, assuming he lives in the USA

---
Well, in retrospect, guns _have_ served us well and they continue to.

Early on, when we audaciously wanted freedom from British oppression and
couldn't gain it using polite discourse, we used the gun to gain our
freedom.

Then, at your request and through two world wars, we also used the gun
to help quell the histrionics which perpetually plagued Europe and which
eventually brought you all to the modicum of civility which has allowed
you to become the United States of Europe, begrudgingly a model of the
United States of America.

LOL!

--
Dirk

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