How great is lockdown?...

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:

On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

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[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 10:26 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away
my Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn\'t show. The courier claimed \"receiver
unavailable\" which I think is code for \"didn\'t want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark.\"

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn\'t happen, I\'m
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

**This guy is quite a good way to start:

https://www.headspace.com/meditation/meditation-for-beginners

MUCH cheaper and far less mystical than TM*. First few lessons are
free, but then you pay. Costs are, IMO, reasonable, but you may find
good results with your local Buddhist temple:

https://www.nantien.org.au/en/retreats

Personally, I prefer my meditation without the religious claptrap. That
said, the people at the Nantien temple are very nice, if not deluded
(like all religious people).

* Transcendental Meditation. HUGE rip-off.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 10:26 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away
my Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn\'t show. The courier claimed \"receiver
unavailable\" which I think is code for \"didn\'t want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark.\"

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn\'t happen, I\'m
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

**This guy is quite a good way to start:

https://www.headspace.com/meditation/meditation-for-beginners

MUCH cheaper and far less mystical than TM*. First few lessons are
free, but then you pay. Costs are, IMO, reasonable, but you may find
good results with your local Buddhist temple:

https://www.nantien.org.au/en/retreats

Personally, I prefer my meditation without the religious claptrap. That
said, the people at the Nantien temple are very nice, if not deluded
(like all religious people).

* Transcendental Meditation. HUGE rip-off.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 9/07/2021 10:26 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:

On 09-Jul-21 1:18 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 12:45 pm, Sylvia Else wrote:
On 09-Jul-21 12:34 pm, Trevor Wilson wrote:
On 9/07/2021 11:31 am, Sylvia Else wrote:

**I don\'t drink much anymore.

I use it mainly as a sleep aid, since the bleedin\' hearts took away
my Xanax to protect my health.

Sylvia.

**Try meditation instead. Healthier and cheaper.

Might have to - said booze didn\'t show. The courier claimed \"receiver
unavailable\" which I think is code for \"didn\'t want to get out of his
truck in the rain and dark.\"

Since I paid almost $10 for a next day delivery which didn\'t happen, I\'m
quite miffed. The email demanding a refund has already been sent.

Sylvia.

**This guy is quite a good way to start:

https://www.headspace.com/meditation/meditation-for-beginners

MUCH cheaper and far less mystical than TM*. First few lessons are
free, but then you pay. Costs are, IMO, reasonable, but you may find
good results with your local Buddhist temple:

https://www.nantien.org.au/en/retreats

Personally, I prefer my meditation without the religious claptrap. That
said, the people at the Nantien temple are very nice, if not deluded
(like all religious people).

* Transcendental Meditation. HUGE rip-off.

 

[R Souls]

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

..... Phil

 

[R Souls]

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

..... Phil

 

[R Souls]

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

..... Phil

 

[R Souls]

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

..... Phil

 

[R Souls]

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
<pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

..... Phil

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

**\"Warm up\"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant on.
Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 12/07/2021 4:16 am, R Souls wrote:

On Mon, 5 Jul 2021 20:33:32 -0700 (PDT), Phil Allison
pallison49@gmail.com> wrote:

Trevor Wilson wrote:
================

I\'ve been cleaning out the store-room (aka: The garage). Look at what I
found:

https://imgur.com/dfEQnOh

My very first power transistor (if you don\'t count the AC128 that came
with my Philips Electronic Engineer kit). The mighty 2N301.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

** Remember them well, every 60s pushbutton car radio had one - operating in class A with a choke load and a 16 ohm speaker.
Usually mounted on a black anodised Al heatsink with no insulators.

One I worked on had special 12V supply valves in the RF stages.

I had one of those. It was a Motorola.and it worked a treat. Can\'t
remember where I found it but I fitted it into my Austin Maxi in the
1980s. It was made for a positive earth system so I had to insullate
the whole thing form the car chassis. My mates couldn\'t understand why
it took half a minute to warm up.

I got 35 quid for it on ebay a few years back. A bloke wanted it for
his 1959 Hillman Minx he\'d restored..

**\"Warm up\"? Must have been a valve model. ALL SS ones are instant on.
Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

 

[Computer Nerd Kev]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

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[Computer Nerd Kev]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote:

Except for the latest ones that are fitted with 15 microprocessors.

You think I\'m joking? I flattened the battery in my 2018 Subaru and, due
to a fuck-up with jump starting the thing, I managed to shut down all
the safety systems. I took it to my mechanic, who placed his OBD-II
machine on the car. It reported the prescence of 27 microprocessors. BY
my reckoning my Suby has about a billion times more computing power than
a space shuttle.

They now often have multiple processors in the same chip, probably
adding up to more than that system reports. Eg. the BCM2835 SoC
used for the original Raspberry Pi includes the CPU, but also a
secondary \"videocore\" processor (VPU), as well as \"quad\" processors
(QPUs) which are used for 3D acceleration processing.

On the models that include a chip for Bluetooth/WiFi, that chip
has one ARM-based processor for Bluetooth and another for WiFi.
The CPU is actually booted by the VPU, then the CPU boots up the
BT/WiFi processors.

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[Rheilly Phoull]

On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !! Also did you check the response from a user ??

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !! Also did you check the response from a user ??

 

[Rheilly Phoull]

On 15/07/2021 7:45 am, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:

Xeno <xenolith@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
On 14/7/21 3:58 pm, keithr0 wrote:

I hear that the Army is less than pleased with their Mercedes 4WDs. The
old Land Rovers could be fixed in the field with a set of spanners and a
hammer, the Mercs have to be towed back to base, and are bastards to fix
with all the electronics.

Yeah, I wondered how that would turn out in the end. It\'s not like the
Australian Army had much choice in the matter. The old Defenders dated
from the early Defender days with the youngest being more than a decade
old. The Benz has more capabilities but, as you say, the electronic will
be problematical, especially so when they age.

I heard that the G Wagons that the \"department of name changes\"
(DELWP, do firefighting in the Vic forrest areas) bought cut out
when their computer detects smoke. Which could be, umm,
inconvenient.

Among other problems:
https://www.weeklytimesnow.com.au/news/national/victorian-delwp-attacked-by-awu-over-mercedesbenz-g-wagons/news-story/e687df05bcdabb6f5df57fc04db7a174?nk=a94d6ad6f572cd443471d16fc4383a0f-1626306024

That was 4 years ago !! Also did you check the response from a user ??

 

[Sylvia Else]

I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.

 

[Sylvia Else]

I note that NSW Health is now recommending that people get their second
jab sooner in the light of the current outbreak. I\'ve managed to book it
for today.

Sylvia.