How do you recycle solar panels?

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 4/17/2019 11:00 AM, Bob F wrote:

On 4/13/2019 6:56 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

How do you recycle solar panels? Without any pollution?


You post them as free on Craigslist or freecycle, and they go away in
minutes.

Do you need the influence of US Army, US Navy and US Air Force to push
them into other countries?

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On Wednesday, 17 April 2019 13:00:55 UTC+1, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 4/17/2019 11:00 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 4/13/2019 6:56 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

How do you recycle solar panels? Without any pollution?


You post them as free on Craigslist or freecycle, and they go away in
minutes.



Do you need the influence of US Army, US Navy and US Air Force to push
them into other countries?

You don't want to get paid to accept mixed panels, some still working?

 

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 4/17/2019 8:00 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 4/17/2019 11:00 AM, Bob F wrote:
On 4/13/2019 6:56 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

How do you recycle solar panels? Without any pollution?


You post them as free on Craigslist or freecycle, and they go away in
minutes.



Do you need the influence of US Army, US Navy and US Air Force to push
them into other countries?

Maybe non-recyclable junk and rubbish would soon trigger World War III!
No kidding, Your Honor!


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[pfjw@aol.com]

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

Maybe non-recyclable junk and rubbish would soon trigger World War III!
No kidding, Your Honor!

No, at this point, there are still those who are willing to pay for this junk and rubbish. Or accept payment to receive it. Either way, the real impact of the need to recycle solar cells will not hit for another 15 years, and then ramp up to massive levels within the next 35 years.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 4/17/2019 11:55 PM, pfjw@aol.com wrote:

On Wednesday, April 17, 2019 at 10:27:12 AM UTC-4, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:


Maybe non-recyclable junk and rubbish would soon trigger World War III!
No kidding, Your Honor!



No, at this point, there are still those who are willing to pay for this junk and rubbish. Or accept payment to receive it. Either way, the real impact of the need to recycle solar cells will not hit for another 15 years, and then ramp up to massive levels within the next 35 years.

Just like plastic 40 years ago? Did they predict global plastic and
micro-plastic pollution? Did they decide that it could be fixed?

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[Mr. Man-wai Chang]

On 4/15/2019 4:08 AM, peter wieck wrote:

You don't. Solar panels pollute in their manufacture, and they pollute in their disposal. As a life-cycle equation, it has been only over the last couple of years that the energy out has surpassed the energy in. It is government subsidies that make solar power cost-effective, and the fact that the really large solar farm have not yet approached the end of their useful lives.
.... more ...
Fossil Fuel plants create carbon dioxide in large amounts.

Wind Farms require acreage, which is in limited supply, but otherwise are comparatively cheap, effective and very long-lasting. Life-cycle cost-per-watt is far and away the cheapest of the lot.

Pick your poison. In terms of generating large amounts of unusable waste that cannot be recycled using present technology, Solar is the winner by a massive margin. It just hasn't gotten there yet.

Thank you, Your Honor!

Energy must also be reserved to repair and build the power-generation
facilities, be it solar panels or wind farms. All these facilities need
factories to produce, and factories themselves need energy.

I am wondering how all those big solar-panel farms process dead panels
without polluting their underground water ...

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[pfjw@aol.com]

You worry far too much.

1,000,000 years from now, either the problems will be solved, or they will not. But it will make no difference to any of us. Species come and go with relentless regularity - and humans are only one of many tens of thousands of species. Eventually, humans will go. Full stop.

Peter Wieck
Melrose Park, PA

 

[Filip454]

W dniu 2019-04-17 o 05:00, Bob F pisze:

On 4/13/2019 6:56 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

How do you recycle solar panels? Without any pollution?


You post them as free on Craigslist or freecycle, and they go away in
minutes.

Kek'd hard.

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[Michael Terrell]

On Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 1:40:41 PM UTC-4, pf...@aol.com wrote:

On Monday, April 15, 2019 at 4:55:21 PM UTC-4, Michael Terrell wrote:


Have any of you lived really close to a nuclear power plant? There was a 20MW facility across the street from my barracks at Ft. Greely, Alaska. It was supposed to be either the first, or one of the first that was tied into a power grid.

It had no cooling towers. Instead, they pumped the used cooling water back into the ground, less than 500 feet from the wells that supplied our drinking water.

People who lived and worked there are reporting Thyroid cancer. It was shut down when I arrived. They had gone back to using diesil powered generators, because the experimental facility was so unreliable. The control room was filled with concrete, to seal it off after it was decommissioned.

We are in the 10-mile radius of Berwick Nuclear at our summer house - when the wind is blowing in the right direction we see the plume from the cooling towers. And when they test the sirens, we do sit up and take notice.

We are about 35 miles from Limerick at home.

Please explain to all of us how that compares with being one city block from a early prototype reactor that you could walk to within 100 feet? Are the people in those areas experience high numbers of cancers, due to contaminated drinking water? Are you close enough to be affected by radioactive leaks? Would you want to live and work in buildings that were heated with radioactive steam, caused by leaking pipes in the reactor?

Here is a PDF about the history of the SM-1A reactor at Greely. It was a prototype that was assembled at that base because the local population off base was ~400 people. On top of this, the area was used to test chemical and biological weapons. Observe the dates in that report. I was there in '73 & '74.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwic1a298tvhAhUBT98KHfI5BVcQFjADegQIARAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.radioactivist.org%2FFTGreely.pdf&usg=AOvVaw3-I4pO1wd_UR042oPubDW2

I ended up there after testing out of a three year EE and Broadcast Engineering school. That was much further than 200 miles from my home, and at one time it was part of Russia.

Of course, you lefties look down on those of us who willingly serve or who have served in our Military. Serving in Alaska was considered overseas duty, BTW.