how do i test that an electrical appliance won't electrocute

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how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.
 
On Sep 17, 3:18 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"
<jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.
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Hi James ,
I am fraser , i have been reading your comment
and i think what you are saying is right .
i also think what you are saying is very interesting , email me if
you find a way to find out if you won't get electricuted.
sorry about my spelling , i am not very good at spelling , please
excuse that .

please reply back to me at my email address
frasermckinlay23@hotmail.co.uk
Yours sincerly
FRASER McKINLAY
 
On Sep 17, 10:59 am, fraser <frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On Sep 17, 3:18 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"

jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.

Hi James ,
I am fraser , i have been reading your comment
and i think what you are saying is right .
i also think what you are saying is very interesting , email me if
you find a way to find out if you won't get electricuted.
sorry about my spelling , i am not very good at spelling , please
excuse that .

please reply back to me at my email address
frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk
Yours sincerly
FRASER McKINLAY
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Use an ohm meter put one wire from the ohm meter on one side of the
plug and there other wire from the ohm meter to the metal on the oven
you should get no reading if its ok and then do the same thing with
the other side of the plug.
 
"jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk" wrote:

how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.
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Well .... if the metal case is solidly grounded you're not going to get
electrocuted by it.

Graham
 
On Sep 17, 10:37 am, trickyrick <ri...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:59 am, fraser <frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Sep 17, 3:18 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"

jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.

Hi James ,
I am fraser , i have been reading your comment
and i think what you are saying is right .
i also think what you are saying is very interesting , email me if
you find a way to find out if you won't get electricuted.
sorry about my spelling , i am not very good at spelling , please
excuse that .

please reply back to me at my email address
frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk
Yours sincerly
FRASER McKINLAY

Use an ohm meter put one wire from the ohm meter on one side of the
plug and there other wire from the ohm meter to the metal on the oven
you should get no reading if its ok and then do the same thing with
the other side of the plug.
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Then, check that you do have a connection from the metal case of the
device to the ground pin on the plug, and when it's plugged in, from
the metal case to an earth ground like a water pipe. The resistance
should be < 0.5 ohm. If it's higher than that, it will keep you from
getting little shocks, but the equipment might be dangerous if it gets
an internal short.

If it doesn't have a three-wire plug, you should probably only use it
with a GFCI outlet.

--
John
 
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:18:53 -0700, jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.
Click to expand...
If you bought it at a legitmate store, and it has a grounding plug, then
it's very likely safe just the way it is.

If you're truly paranoid, put it on the countertop next to the sink,
plug it in, turn it on using only the plastic part of the knob, and
put your meter on AC volts and measure from the sink to any exposed
metal part of the oven.

If you get volts, then just plug it into a GFI outlet.

Good Luck!
Rich
 
Rich Grise wrote:
On Mon, 17 Sep 2007 07:18:53 -0700, jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.

If you bought it at a legitmate store, and it has a grounding plug, then
it's very likely safe just the way it is.

If you're truly paranoid, put it on the countertop next to the sink,
plug it in, turn it on using only the plastic part of the knob, and
put your meter on AC volts and measure from the sink to any exposed
metal part of the oven.

If you get volts, then just plug it into a GFI outlet.

Good Luck!
Rich


All of you posters missed the "yahoo.co.uk" part of the Address !
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They use a slightly different Grounding System ! than North America !
and its 220 to boot. Is this a "Domestic electric oven" that the poster
is trying to adapt ?

Yukio YANO
 
On Sep 17, 4:37 pm, trickyrick <ri...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
On Sep 17, 10:59 am, fraser <frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:





On Sep 17, 3:18 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"

jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.

Hi James ,
I am fraser , i have been reading your comment
and i think what you are saying is right .
i also think what you are saying is very interesting , email me if
you find a way to find out if you won't get electricuted.
sorry about my spelling , i am not very good at spelling , please
excuse that .

please reply back to me at my email address
frasermckinla...@hotmail.co.uk
Yours sincerly
FRASER McKINLAY

Use an ohm meter put one wire from the ohm meter on one side of the
plug and there other wire from the ohm meter to the metal on the oven
you should get no reading if its ok and then do the same thing with
the other side of the plug.- Hide quoted text -
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It's a 3 prong plug.. i don't know what it means but i think the top
prong is ground.

anyhow... i have the 2 wires from my multimeter. red and black. I put
the red to the appliance and the black to a prong. Then to the other
prong. Then the wires the other way.. black on appliance, red on a
prong.

i actually have a picture that illustrates that on th back of my
multimeter i got from maplin. as one of the things i can do with it!

I get 0 on the multimeter, but i got 0 before. So i guess it passes
the test. assuming i did the test right. But since an OK shows
nothing, it's not that convincing 'cos it could be that i haven't
tested it right.
 
"jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk" wrote:

It's a 3 prong plug.. i don't know what it means but i think the top
prong is ground.

anyhow... i have the 2 wires from my multimeter. red and black. I put
the red to the appliance and the black to a prong. Then to the other
prong. Then the wires the other way.. black on appliance, red on a
prong.

i actually have a picture that illustrates that on th back of my
multimeter i got from maplin. as one of the things i can do with it!
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Ah, you're from the UK.

Unless you bought this microwave oven second hand and are suspicious that it's
been fiddled with you can be confident that it's safe.

Unlike in the USA, the earth in UK wiring is very reliable and *always* present
and equipment like microwaves is *always* properly earthed.

Graham
 
On Sep 17, 3:18 pm, "jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk"
<jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
how do i test that that an electrical appliance won't electrocute me?

I have a cheap electric oven cooker. metal on the outside. i'd rather
be sure it's safe before turning it on and touching it.. Or finding
out a bad way. It's not the heat that bothers me. It's the possibility
of getting electrocuted.

if it helps, i'll mention that i have a multimeter.
Click to expand...
Stick your finger in it. If you die, then it will electrocute you.
 
On Tue, 18 Sep 2007 07:09:23 +0100, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

"jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk" wrote:

It's a 3 prong plug.. i don't know what it means but i think the
top
prong is ground.

anyhow... i have the 2 wires from my multimeter. red and black. I
put
the red to the appliance and the black to a prong. Then to the
other
prong. Then the wires the other way.. black on appliance, red on a
prong.

i actually have a picture that illustrates that on th back of my
multimeter i got from maplin. as one of the things i can do with
it!

Ah, you're from the UK.

Unless you bought this microwave oven second hand and are suspicious
that it's
been fiddled with you can be confident that it's safe.

Unlike in the USA, the earth in UK wiring is very reliable and
*always* present
and equipment like microwaves is *always* properly earthed.

Graham
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It will also depend on whether the OP is using the appliance on an
extension cord. If he is using an extension cord then the continuity
and correct termination of all three wires in it must be verified.
 
On 18 Sep, 07:09, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"jameshanle...@yahoo.co.uk" wrote:
It's a 3 prong plug.. i don't know what it means but i think the top
prong is ground.

anyhow... i have the 2 wires from my multimeter. red and black. I put
the red to the appliance and the black to a prong. Then to the other
prong. Then the wires the other way.. black on appliance, red on a
prong.

i actually have a picture that illustrates that on th back of my
multimeter i got from maplin. as one of the things i can do with it!

Ah, you're from the UK.

Unless you bought this microwave oven second hand and are suspicious that it's
been fiddled with you can be confident that it's safe.

Unlike in the USA, the earth in UK wiring is very reliable and *always* present
and equipment like microwaves is *always* properly earthed.

Graham
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I bought it from a shop called Pound something.. They mostly sell
little things for a Ł. This was about Ł10. And things are more
expensive in the UK than in the US.

Considering the appliance it is, they were almost giving it away!

But even if I can be 'confident' in the shop and the uk plug system.
I want to be able to test that it's ok.
 
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46EF6B93.EA5CFB53@hotmail.com...
snip

Unlike in the USA, the earth in UK wiring is very reliable and *always*
present
and equipment like microwaves is *always* properly earthed.
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Why would you think this is not the case in the USA? Two prong, potentially
ungrounded outlets were history in the early 1960's. Ground is always
present
unless some idiot disconnected the wire.
 
Eeyore wrote:
"jameshanley39@yahoo.co.uk" wrote:


It's a 3 prong plug.. i don't know what it means but i think the top
prong is ground.

anyhow... i have the 2 wires from my multimeter. red and black. I put
the red to the appliance and the black to a prong. Then to the other
prong. Then the wires the other way.. black on appliance, red on a
prong.

i actually have a picture that illustrates that on th back of my
multimeter i got from maplin. as one of the things i can do with it!


Ah, you're from the UK.

Unless you bought this microwave oven second hand and are suspicious that it's
been fiddled with you can be confident that it's safe.

Unlike in the USA, the earth in UK wiring is very reliable and *always* present
and equipment like microwaves is *always* properly earthed.

Graham

LOL!, You make me laugh you idiot.! "Unlike the US" my ass. I've seen
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some of the shabby wiring used over there.

It's only typical that you would promote the UK as the most perfect
place with the most perfect people.!

Goes to show just how much you really know about the US>

--
"I'm never wrong, once i thought i was, but was mistaken"
Real Programmers Do things like this.
http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5
 
"Lord Garth" <LGarth@Tantalus.net> wrote in message
news:QETHi.9826$924.8232@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net...
Two prong, potentially
ungrounded outlets were history in the early 1960's. Ground is always
present
unless some idiot disconnected the wire.
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Not at all. Grounded outlets were required on all new installations from the
'60s all right, but many houses are older than that. New work has to be
done to the new code, of course, but there's no requirement to upgrade old
wiring just because it's old. Many houses in my area (Ventura Co., CA) still
have the old two-pronged outlets.
 
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