Help with barking dog

[terryc]

On Thu, 27 May 2010 21:24:25 +0100, ian field wrote:

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have it put down that they think twice before getting another.

Naah, that one was obviously faulty and lightning doesn't strike the same
place twice.

Basic rule, in the city/burbs, a dog has to be part of the family and get
given a decent amount of time each day. Otherwise, like kids, they go nut
job.

 

[ian field]

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and make it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed to be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant. And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that can be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:

"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and make it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed to be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant. And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that can be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.

If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Sylvia.

 

[ian field]

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bff0f96$0$12173$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 29/05/2010 7:45 AM, ian field wrote:

"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bffd421$0$12187$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bff0f96$0$12173$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.

It may well be that such noises will provoke barking. I don't dispute
that. The question is whether they'll cause an attack on a human so as
to get the animal put down.

Sylvia.

 

[ian field]

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4c009058$0$1564$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...

On 29/05/2010 7:45 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bffd421$0$12187$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bff0f96$0$12173$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my
computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and
make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays
an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time
it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they
worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed
to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the
link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports
on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn
that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when
the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and
a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that
can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best
effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago
BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with
a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted
it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When
the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way
of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was
whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.



It may well be that such noises will provoke barking. I don't dispute
that. The question is whether they'll cause an attack on a human so as to
get the animal put down.

Like I said - use a well powerful piezo tweeter and tweak tone & pulse for
best effect.

 

[Charlie+]

On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:06:49 +0100, "ian field"
<gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote as :

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 29/05/2010 7:45 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
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On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my
computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and
make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays
an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time
it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they
worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed
to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the
link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports
on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn
that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when
the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and
a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that
can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best
effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago
BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with
a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted
it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When
the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way
of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was
whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.



It may well be that such noises will provoke barking. I don't dispute
that. The question is whether they'll cause an attack on a human so as to
get the animal put down.



Like I said - use a well powerful piezo tweeter and tweak tone & pulse for
best effect.

I notice the OP posted then disappeared ? a Troll?

 

[Sylvia Else]

On 30/05/2010 6:08 PM, Charlie+ wrote:

On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:06:49 +0100, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote as :


"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4c009058$0$1564$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 29/05/2010 7:45 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bffd421$0$12187$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bff0f96$0$12173$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my
computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and
make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays
an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time
it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they
worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed
to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the
link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports
on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn
that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when
the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and
a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that
can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best
effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago
BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with
a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted
it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When
the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way
of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was
whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.



It may well be that such noises will provoke barking. I don't dispute
that. The question is whether they'll cause an attack on a human so as to
get the animal put down.



Like I said - use a well powerful piezo tweeter and tweak tone& pulse for
best effect.

I notice the OP posted then disappeared ? a Troll?

Perhaps. But if so, a strange one.

Sylvia.

 

[Charlie+]

On Mon, 31 May 2010 12:55:47 +1000, Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.here.invalid>
wrote as underneath my scribble :

On 30/05/2010 6:08 PM, Charlie+ wrote:
On Sat, 29 May 2010 15:06:49 +0100, "ian field"
gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> wrote as :


"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4c009058$0$1564$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 29/05/2010 7:45 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bffd421$0$12187$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 11:42 PM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bff0f96$0$12173$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 28/05/2010 6:24 AM, ian field wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfdd4f9$0$13641$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 27/05/2010 10:21 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
"Sylvia Else"<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote in message
news:4bfd28be$0$12735$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
On 26/05/2010 6:25 AM, L.A.T. wrote:
"Gabriel Knight"<FakeEmail@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BqPKn.27083$pv.26756@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
Hi all, Is it legal to make and use an electronic device to stop
or
annoy
the hell out of a neighbours dog? I have a dog next to my
computer
room
I
would like to make a device that only the dog would hear and
make
it
silent. Is this possable? If its possable I need to know the
diagram,
etc,
to make myself or can you by them?

Thanks
GK
These devices seldom work as desired or as advertised.

I obtained one on approval. Totally useless. It certainly didn't
stop
the
dog from barking. Whether it annoyed the dog into barking more was
difficult to tell, since the dog barked pretty much continuously
anyway.

**What sort of device was it? I am aware of one type, that sprays
an
unpleasant, but harmless, chemical near the dog's nose, every time
it
barks.
I know of a couple of people who rented these devices and they
worked
perfectly. In one case, it only took a week. In the other case, it
took
two
weeks and the dog ceased barking. The other method I know of, but
have
serious misgivings about, is a surgical procedure where the dog is
'de-barked'. I've seen the results of that too.


The device emitted a very loud ultrasonic noise which was supposed
to
be
unpleasant to the dog. The theory is that the dog recognises the
link
between barking and the noise, and thus desists.

The device you're talking about has to be attached to the dog,
presumably
by its collar. There are also devices, that I've had good reports
on,
that
administer a mild electric shock when the dog barks (but
bleeding-hearts
got them banned in NSW[*]). However both such devices require the
cooperation of the owner, and such options are not available of the
owner
is indifferent, or actually oblivious.

I eventually set up a microphone and sound activated recording
software
and created a log which I sent to the council. Only then to learn
that
the
tenant was being evicted anyway.

[*] Apparently they are considered cruel, even though people have
tried
the devices on themselves, and the shock is no more than unpleasant.
And
the device is not as cruel as a brick through the dog's skull when
the
neighbour is not looking.

Sylvia.


I'd definately go with pulsed ultrasonics, with a home brew unit and
a
well
powerful piezo tweeter you can tweak the tone and pulse rate to
perfection
so it literally drives the dog mad.

This should cause sufficient distress to the owner when they have to
have
it
put down that they think twice before getting another.


I found a posting I made elsewhere about the results of my microphone
based survey:

"Over a period of 20 days the dogs barked a total of
6685 times, an average of over 334 times a day. On one day the dogs
barked over one thousand times."

I doubt the owner of such dogs is going to notice any increase that
can
be
induced. As I noted ealier, the problem went away, but I think it's
naive
to suppose that owners can be driven having their pets put down.

They can if it goes mad and savages a family member.



If it attacks anyone unprovoked, the authorities will probably require
that it be put down, regardless of the owner's desire.

But I don't think ultransonic noise is going to have that outcome.

Anyone know the optimum dose of LSD per kg for a dog?

Ultrasonics is likely a lot cheaper than enough LSD to send a dog mad and
won't show up on autopsy/investigation - or get you arrested buying the
stuff. With homebrew kit you can tweak tone and pulse rate for best
effect.

Pulsed or warbling ultrasonic really will do a dog's head in, years ago
BT
took away our beloved red telephone box in my street and replaced it with
a
modern stainless-steel open plan phone kiosk, unfortunately they mounted
it
facing south-west - from where the wind always brings heavy rain. When
the
phone got wet it started emitting a high pitched whistling noise (no way
of
knowing whether it was also emitting ultrasonic) but when it was
whistling I
could hear dozens of dogs barking continuously in the surrounding houses.

Needless to say BT were persuaded to effect a remedy rather rapidly.



It may well be that such noises will provoke barking. I don't dispute
that. The question is whether they'll cause an attack on a human so as to
get the animal put down.



Like I said - use a well powerful piezo tweeter and tweak tone& pulse for
best effect.

I notice the OP posted then disappeared ? a Troll?

Perhaps. But if so, a strange one.

Yep - Perhaps the dog got into him first!
Charlie+