Help ID'ing a connector

[Tman]

Gracious group, I'd like to pick up some connectors from Digi Key et al,
but the world of connectors is very wide, and I'd like to know if
there are industry names or other ways of narrowing down the connectors
that I need. There's two;

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional IDE or
floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that in 10 pin, 16 pin,
etc. but that basic style. What's it called?

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the right thing
to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC. Just to the left of it,
you'll see the style of the other connector that I reference above.

Any help is much appreciated. Names, styles, model numbers, anything to
get me to a selection where I know I am looking at the right type, and
can choose # pins, M/F, quality, and everything else.

Thanks much!
T

PS: Pictures like this just make me want to pick up a soldering iron

 

[Eeyore]

Tman wrote:

Gracious group, I'd like to pick up some connectors from Digi Key et al,
but the world of connectors is very wide, and I'd like to know if
there are industry names or other ways of narrowing down the connectors
that I need. There's two;

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional IDE or
floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that in 10 pin, 16 pin,
etc. but that basic style. What's it called?

It's called an IDC connector. Various styles exist. If you're out of your
depth working that out, get somone elese to do it.

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the right thing
to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC. Just to the left of it,
you'll see the style of the other connector that I reference above.

Looks like it may be a Molex brand type KK. It's called a polarised pin
header. Again many standards exist. Do you want 2.5mm pitch or 2.54 mm
pitch for example ?

Get someone who knows what they're doing before you bugger things up.

Graham

 

[JW]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:52:24 -0400 Tman <x@x> wrote in Message id:
<1_2dnUXCwcvhmnvVnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com>:

Gracious group, I'd like to pick up some connectors from Digi Key et al,
but the world of connectors is very wide, and I'd like to know if
there are industry names or other ways of narrowing down the connectors
that I need. There's two;

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional IDE or
floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that in 10 pin, 16 pin,
etc. but that basic style. What's it called?

I call it a box header.
Tyco part #5103308 [-X] Put the number into Digikey's search engine.

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the right thing
to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC. Just to the left of it,
you'll see the style of the other connector that I reference above.

Something like this:
http://media.digikey.com/photos/Molex/22-12-2034.jpg

Digikey part #WM2717-ND is similar to what's on your board, other than it
being right angle. Shouldn't be too tough to find a mate using that
information. (Click on the catalog link part way down the page)

 

[Tman]

Eeyore wrote:

Get someone who knows what they're doing before you bugger things up.

Dude. If I can't solder in a power supply and keyboard header to a SBC,
I'm gonna throw my MSEE out the window. Actually did a lot of
breadboarding and building stuff in undergrad, a bit in grad, then never
thought of Ohm's law again. Made a killing building software to price
credit default derivatives though. Got some free time on my hands now,
so let me rephrase if I can't even do this right I'm gonna f'ing jump
outta the window.

LOL (still)

T

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Tman wrote:

Gracious group, I'd like to pick up some connectors from Digi Key et al,
but the world of connectors is very wide, and I'd like to know if
there are industry names or other ways of narrowing down the connectors
that I need. There's two;

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional IDE or
floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that in 10 pin, 16 pin,
etc. but that basic style. What's it called?

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the right thing
to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC. Just to the left of it,
you'll see the style of the other connector that I reference above.

Any help is much appreciated. Names, styles, model numbers, anything to
get me to a selection where I know I am looking at the right type, and
can choose # pins, M/F, quality, and everything else.

Thanks much!
T

PS: Pictures like this just make me want to pick up a soldering iron

Does the manual list the connector OEM and type? The ones I used all
did.


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[Eeyore]

Tman wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Get someone who knows what they're doing before you bugger things up.

Dude. If I can't solder in a power supply and keyboard header to a SBC,
I'm gonna throw my MSEE out the window. Actually did a lot of
breadboarding and building stuff in undergrad, a bit in grad, then never
thought of Ohm's law again. Made a killing building software to price
credit default derivatives though. Got some free time on my hands now,
so let me rephrase if I can't even do this right I'm gonna f'ing jump
outta the window.

Beware of one thing. NEVER mix tin plated and gold plated contacts. Bet they
never taught you that in your MSEE !

Want to know why ? Ask ! Trust me there are so many 'non-obvious' things
about connectors that you need to know what you're doing.

Is your IRC box header polarised, bump polarised or unpolarised for example
just to take a few examples. A better view would help

Graham

 

[Eeyore]

Tman wrote:

Eeyore wrote:

Get someone who knows what they're doing before you bugger things up.

Dude. If I can't solder in a power supply and keyboard header to a SBC

Did it not come with a manual btw ? It may list approved connector types.

I hope you're not planning to *solder* anything of the sort either actually.
You can get connectors for those too.

Graham

 

[Andre Majorel]

On 2008-10-03, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Tman wrote:

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional
IDE or floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that
in 10 pin, 16 pin, etc. but that basic style. What's it
called?

It's called an IDC connector.

An "IDC connector" could just as well be a 50-way micro-ribbon
or a 3.96 mm MTA or god knows what else... The actual family
name of those .1" dual-row connectors is, as far as I know,
"HE10". That won't help you with Digi-Key but you could get
manufacturer order codes from RS Components' and Farnell's
sites.

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the
right thing to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC.

Looks like it may be a Molex brand type KK.

Yep, looks like a .1" KK or MTA. The friction lock looks odd but
it may be the photograph...

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[Franc Zabkar]

On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:52:24 -0400, Tman <x@x> put finger to keyboard
and composed:

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the right thing
to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC.

"Friction lock header" is one description.

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[Eeyore]

Andre Majorel wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
Tman wrote:

First one, the type of connector is just like the traditional
IDE or floppy drive connector on motherboards. I need that
in 10 pin, 16 pin, etc. but that basic style. What's it
called?

It's called an IDC connector.

An "IDC connector" could just as well be a 50-way micro-ribbon
or a 3.96 mm MTA or god knows what else... The actual family
name of those .1" dual-row connectors is, as far as I know,
"HE10". That won't help you with Digi-Key but you could get
manufacturer order codes from RS Components' and Farnell's
sites.

You're kinf of making my point for me actually. Most people I know who
talkof an 'IDC connector' in the context of computers would mean one of
that type with 0.05" pitch cable. The fact that there are so many other
types merely illustrates the problem.

And then if it's PATA 66/? /100 or 133 then it needs a 0.025" cable with
interleaved ground wires.

Second type -- well you have to see a picture. Pls see
http://home.comcast.net/~tman9/connectors.jpg I need the
right thing to plug into J7, the red connector on this SBC.

Looks like it may be a Molex brand type KK.

Yep, looks like a .1" KK or MTA. The friction lock looks odd but
it may be the photograph...

I know what you mean. After looking carefully I reckoned KK. Most likely
2.54mm pitch, but you never can tell just by looking.

Graham

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Andre Majorel wrote:

Not having an MSEE to throw out the window, I'll humbly ask :
what happens if you mix tin-plated and gold-plated contacts ?

Intermittent connections as the tin & gold contaminate the contact
areas. Radio Shack's first personal computer displayed this to
thousands of clueless suckers.


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[Andre Majorel]

On 2008-10-04, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Tman wrote:
Eeyore wrote:

Get someone who knows what they're doing before you bugger
things up.

Dude. If I can't solder in a power supply and keyboard
header to a SBC, I'm gonna throw my MSEE out the window.

Beware of one thing. NEVER mix tin plated and gold plated
contacts. Bet they never taught you that in your MSEE !

Want to know why ? Ask ! Trust me there are so many
'non-obvious' things about connectors that you need to know
what you're doing.

Not having an MSEE to throw out the window, I'll humbly ask :
what happens if you mix tin-plated and gold-plated contacts ?

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You measure democracy by the freedom it gives its dissidents, not
the freedom it gives its assimilated conformists -- Abbie Hoffman.

 

[David Tweed]

Andre Majorel wrote:

Not having an MSEE to throw out the window, I'll humbly ask :
what happens if you mix tin-plated and gold-plated contacts ?

It's all about contact pressure. Tin-plated connectors use higher
pressures to help "wipe" the oxidation off for a reliable contact.

So, if you put a gold pin into a tin socket, the excess pressure
will wipe off the gold, exposing the base metal to corrosion.

If you put a tin pin into a gold socket, the insufficient pressure
will fail to wipe the tin clean, and it will be unreliable.

-- Dave Tweed