help fix my Lord Kelvin thunderstorm

[Jasen Betts]

On 2014-02-10, szczepan bialek <sz.bialek@wp.pl> wrote:

"Jasen Betts" <jasen@xnet.co.nz> napisaÂł w wiadomoÂści
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On 2014-02-09, szczepan bialek <sz.bialek@wp.pl> wrote:

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In our schools was presented the simple generator consists of three
parts.
1. Water droplets "producer",
2. A metal plate with the surface covered with fat,
3. A metal container

The droplets are rolling on the surface to get the electrons. The plate
should have contact with the Earth.
The sparks are jumping betweein the container and the ground.

The simple one is the pure physics.
The Earth has voltage about 200V.
The capacitance of smal drop and the big drop (container) is
proportional
to their surface (r^2).
The mass is proportional to r^3.
The voltage is V = Q/C

In our generator Q is constant but the capacitance of the big drop
(container) is smaller than the sum of the capacitance of droplets.
S*

The fat is necesary to keep the droplets as the sphere.

Ten years ago it was described as the "electrostatic experinent". Now I
could not find it.

It sounds like the wet analogue of a Van de Graaf generator, while
Lord Kelvin's is the wet analogue of Wimshurst's machine,

I wrote in Google: How to charge water droplets - and there are plenty of
links. In the first is wrote:

"Images such as this, showing droplets being shed from a superhydrophobic
surface (light band at center), revealed the charging of the droplets."

that's a MIT article from last year.

Robb wrote: "If you have a link to the device you mentioned or the device
name or the originator's name, i am truly interested to look it up".

May be that the device was originated by Soviet Union, because almost
everything produced in Poland was Soviet's licence.

Have you heard in your country about the drop generator with the hydrofobic
surface?
S*

Ah, soviet technology. that could explain why I haven't found a
description of that device written in english.

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[szczepan bialek]

"Jasen Betts" <jasen@xnet.co.nz> napisał w wiadomości
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On 2014-02-10, szczepan bialek <sz.bialek@wp.pl> wrote:

In our schools was presented the simple generator consists of three
parts.
1. Water droplets "producer",
2. A metal plate with the surface covered with fat,
3. A metal container

The droplets are rolling on the surface to get the electrons. The
plate
should have contact with the Earth.
The sparks are jumping betweein the container and the ground.

Ten years ago it was described as the "electrostatic experinent". Now I
could not find it.

It sounds like the wet analogue of a Van de Graaf generator, while
Lord Kelvin's is the wet analogue of Wimshurst's machine,

I wrote in Google: How to charge water droplets - and there are plenty
of
links. In the first is wrote:

"Images such as this, showing droplets being shed from a superhydrophobic
surface (light band at center), revealed the charging of the droplets."

that's a MIT article from last year.

Robb wrote: "If you have a link to the device you mentioned or the device
name or the originator's name, i am truly interested to look it up".

May be that the device was originated by Soviet Union, because almost
everything produced in Poland was Soviet's licence.

Have you heard in your country about the drop generator with the
hydrofobic
surface?
S*

Ah, soviet technology. that could explain why I haven't found a
description of that device written in english.

Russia science is the best.
But it will be the MIT's discovery.
S*