Have Fun With Gay Macon

To the person who attempted to take down my web page; you are
a coward. A real man flames with his name attached and takes
responsibility for his actions. Are you brave enough to face
me instead of hiding? I didn't think so.

To those who registered approval; is this really the message that
you want employers and customers to find this when researching
you - someone who approves of escalating a Usenet flame into a
DDOS attack?

I would like to be able to say that the coward made extra work
for the technicians at my hosting provider (he didn't seem to
care whether he cost them time/money or about any other websites
that he might have been interfering with; are you who registered
approval *sure* that this is the sort of thing you wish to be
associated with?), but it turns out that he didn't.

I checked my logs, hoping that I would be able to see whether
the rate limiter kicked in, but alas, the traffic wasn't high
enough. In theory an IP address that asks for too much data
will get it slower and slower. I had hoped to see the rate
limiter in action. :(

Here is the email from my hosting provider. It looks like
it was a hardware failure that corrupted my site. I do have
full backups, so I will have it restored shortly.

From: "***** Support 24/7 Support Team" <support@*****.com>

***** has responded to your help desk request.

-----------------------------------------------
[Submitted 22 July 2005 08:48 AM ]
-----------------------------------------------

Hi:

| Domain: guymacon.com
| UserName: ***************
| PassWord: ***************
| HomeRoot: /home
| Quota: 1000 GB

Please re-input your webpage data if you have it. We are working on
data recovery now from the corrupted hardrive for this server.
The admin techs are still working on the corrupted hardrives and
trying to reset up the server from the corrupted Raid Array.

Thank You,
******
***** Hosting Inc.
http://www.*****.com

For up-to-date Network Status or to open a Helpdesk Request please
visit our brand new support site at http://www.*****.com!

Thanks for using the help desk, if you have any further difficulties
or are required to respond to your request, please login to the help desk.
 
On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:29:07 -0300, YD wrote:

On 21 Jul 2005 12:58:09 -0700, "cuddlybum" <gaymacon@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://gaymacon.tripod.com/

I'm sure it won't last but for those of you with fixed cost high speed
connections.....

I wonder how long it will last.

CuddlyBum

Ok, messing with Guy on usenet is fun enough. Mixing up servers, nyms
and readers to give his Bayesian filters a workout and him fits is all
right, good clean fun. But messing up his web site is taking it to
another level and can take a serious turn. Let's hope this doesn't
escalate.
I quite agree. As much of a PITA as he is, a DNS attack doesn't make it
any better. Yes, I went there, but as soon as I realized what was going
on I dropped the link.

Note I'm not defending Guy in any way. I rather wish he'd stay away
until he's back on his meds. His site will probably be back up again
shortly but I've heard of sites going down permanently due to some
shenanigan or other. Of course, he should have disabled hotlinking from
the start but it's usually not expected nor remembered.
Whigh his grand knowledge of the Internet (or at least Usenet headers),
you'd think the "master" would have thought of that. ;-)

--
Keith
 
Hi Guy,

Yes, you are right, I am a coward. Mind you with a bit of poking about
you should be able to find me. Shouldn't be too hard.

Yes it was childish but it was a bit of a giggle.

Before "I" took it off line there were 167 visitors. Before Tripod
'killed' the page there had been 260 visitors.

As you say, probably not enough to have done much harm. My initial
connect speed was at its maximum, subsequently it dropped to 10% of
that.

As you say, it was a coincidence that your site dropped off the net.

[http://www.ocsupport.com/?location=networkstatus&view=166]

[http://www.ocsupport.com/?location=networkstatus&view=167]

Cuddlybum
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 00:27:54 GMT, Rich Grise <richgrise@example.net>
wrote:


Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any compassion
for the poor schlub.
---
Olie and Lena were out on their first date and, just before dinner,
Olie asks Lena, "Lena, would you like a cocktail?" "Oh, no," she
replies, "what would I tell my Sunday school class?" Then, after
dinner, Olie asks, "Lena, would you like a cigarette?" "Oh, no," she
replies, "what would I tell my Sunday school class?" Then, on the way
back home, as they're approaching the Notell Motel, Olie asks, "Lena,
would you like to stop in there for a little while?" "Oh, yes," she
says, "that would be nice." Surprised, Olie asks, "But what are you
going to tell your Sunday school class?" "Same thing I always tell
them; "You don't have to drink and smoke to have a good time."" she
replies.

Thanx to Garrison Keillor :)


--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:09:38 +0000, G`Eye Make On <.@> wrote:

To the person who attempted to take down my web page; you are
a coward. A real man flames with his name attached and takes
responsibility for his actions.
---
And you are "G`Eye Make On" ?

--
John Fields
Professional Circuit Designer
 
John Fields wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:09:38 +0000, G`Eye Make On <.@> wrote:




To the person who attempted to take down my web page; you are
a coward. A real man flames with his name attached and takes
responsibility for his actions.


---
And you are "G`Eye Make On" ?
And a "real man" is not hung up on being a "real man."
 
Rich Grise wrote:
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 08:13:17 -0700, Electroniker wrote:

Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any compassion
for the poor schlub.

Thanks,
Rich
It comes from the hard winters here. Winter creates interdependency.
When it is -30 F and you see a car stalled on a road, you stop because
someones life may be at risk. You do it out of compassion and in the
hope that if your heap dies in the same conditons someone will stop for
you.

No one ever has enough friends in hard times.

Blakley LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA.
 
On 22 Jul 2005 08:13:17 -0700, "Electroniker" <Railtramp@aol.com>
wrote:

cuddlybum wrote:
http://gaymacon.tripod.com/

I'm sure it won't last but for those of you with fixed cost high speed
connections.....

I wonder how long it will last.

CuddlyBum

From the outside, this continueing torment of someone is really
starting to look pathetic.

SCI.ELECTRONIC.DESIGN
Now just how many of us would have fallen into the Geek category in our
youth? Anyone remember the bullies pushing you around, or belittling
you, or making you feel like you did not belong just because you had
your own way doing/seeing/acting. Maybe you really were a PITA.

So now we have our own club and we can imitate the behavior that we may
have once been victims of. Great. Lets see how many of us we can get
to pick on one person.

For the most part, Usenet posts live forever. How many of you want
your IRL names associated with this type of behavior? Ever think that
one of the character references employers use is a Usenet search?

Leave the guy alone.
Right on...as someone who was ridculed for designing (on paper)
submarines and wire-remote-control airplanes in the mid-sixties, I
full agree.

Tom

Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:24:45 GMT, Tom MacIntyre
<tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> wrote:

On 22 Jul 2005 08:13:17 -0700, "Electroniker" <Railtramp@aol.com
wrote:


cuddlybum wrote:
http://gaymacon.tripod.com/

I'm sure it won't last but for those of you with fixed cost high speed
connections.....

I wonder how long it will last.

CuddlyBum

From the outside, this continueing torment of someone is really
starting to look pathetic.

SCI.ELECTRONIC.DESIGN
Now just how many of us would have fallen into the Geek category in our
youth? Anyone remember the bullies pushing you around, or belittling
you, or making you feel like you did not belong just because you had
your own way doing/seeing/acting. Maybe you really were a PITA.

So now we have our own club and we can imitate the behavior that we may
have once been victims of. Great. Lets see how many of us we can get
to pick on one person.

For the most part, Usenet posts live forever. How many of you want
your IRL names associated with this type of behavior? Ever think that
one of the character references employers use is a Usenet search?

Leave the guy alone.

Right on...as someone who was ridculed for designing (on paper)
submarines and wire-remote-control airplanes in the mid-sixties, I
full agree.
was also occasonally rdculed for my falure to use the letter "". :)

Tom

Tom


Blakely LaCroix
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:37:12 +0100, Pooh Bear wrote:
Winfield Hill wrote:
Rich Grise wrote...
Electroniker wrote:

Leave the guy alone.

Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any
compassion for the poor schlub.

I wonder if he's been paying attention?


Well..... Someone's been busy changing his website to text format and I
don't think that's likely to be anyone else. Yeah, I reckon someone got
his attention.
But, hey, what's this about his website? I thought it was already
"in text format". It is, after all, one of the leanest and cleanest
websites - - - wait a sec - I just went to check to back up my words,
and I got:
------------------
The server had a hard disk failure, so I am taking this opportunity to
reorganize my website. The old site should be bcak Real Soon Now...

This is 216.73.122.76\www\index.html
------------------
at www.guymacon.com.

Maybe we got through! (but then we can start ragging on him about
his (mis)use of the term, "Real Soon Now". ;-P )

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 07:42:54 -0700, Electroniker wrote:
Rich Grise wrote:

Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any
compassion for the poor schlub.

It comes from the hard winters here. Winter creates interdependency. When
it is -30 F and you see a car stalled on a road, you stop because someones
life may be at risk. You do it out of compassion and in the hope that if
your heap dies in the same conditons someone will stop for you.

No one ever has enough friends in hard times.
Well, it has been said that the terrible weather keeps the riff-raff
out of the state! ;-P

I'm gonna have to email my buddy in Nebraska - according to the
teevee nooz weather map, it's like a hundred and twenty degees there
these days! Yikes!

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:35:35 +0000, Tom MacIntyre wrote:

Right on...as someone who was ridculed for designing (on paper)
submarines and wire-remote-control airplanes in the mid-sixties, I full
agree.

was also occasonally rdculed for my falure to use the letter "". :)

"Pvpry timp I strikp thp lpttpr 'p' I gpt an 'e'." --- customer in
typewriter repair shop, from "Best Cartoons from Punch".

But Tom, if I were to get serious here - - -

Oh, who am I kidding?

Cheers!
Rich
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:11:44 -0500, John Fields wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:09:38 +0000, G`Eye Make On <.@> wrote:

To the person who attempted to take down my web page; you are a coward.
A real man flames with his name attached and takes responsibility for his
actions.

And you are "G`Eye Make On" ?
Yeah, it seems that these days you really have to do some digging
to figure out who's what an' shit.

Who fucking cares?

Me, I'm stuck here - I have no friends or relatives - well, I have
some relatives, but they're a thousand miles away - I have a nephew
who's doing some kind of humanitarian thing in Africa - but the
point is, I don't sit down and bullshit with my relatives. I sit
down and bullshit with youse guys. Of course, Rich The Philosophizer
believes that we're all one, but at a different level - I wonder
about reclaiming your lost essence - does that mean that when the
undead rise up out of their graves, _we_ are supposed to eat _them_?
How else could you reconstitute your lost essence?

Oh, crap, I've gone way off-track here.

Never mind.

Roger Wilco, over an dout
Rich
 
"Rich Grise, but drunk" wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:37:12 +0100, Pooh Bear wrote:
Winfield Hill wrote:
Rich Grise wrote...
Electroniker wrote:

Leave the guy alone.

Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any
compassion for the poor schlub.

I wonder if he's been paying attention?


Well..... Someone's been busy changing his website to text format and I
don't think that's likely to be anyone else. Yeah, I reckon someone got
his attention.


But, hey, what's this about his website? I thought it was already
"in text format". It is, after all, one of the leanest and cleanest
websites - - - wait a sec - I just went to check to back up my words,
and I got:
------------------
The server had a hard disk failure, so I am taking this opportunity to
reorganize my website. The old site should be bcak Real Soon Now...

This is 216.73.122.76\www\index.html
------------------
at www.guymacon.com.

Maybe we got through! (but then we can start ragging on him about
his (mis)use of the term, "Real Soon Now". ;-P )

Cheers!
Rich
It had pics on it before.

Graham
 
"Tom MacIntyre" <tom__macintyre@hotmail.com> schreef in bericht
news:08o4e1lm1jtb13v4p44g367blf8e67oh47@4ax.com...
On 22 Jul 2005 08:13:17 -0700, "Electroniker" <Railtramp@aol.com
wrote:

Leave the guy alone.

Right on...as someone who was ridculed for designing (on paper)
submarines and wire-remote-control airplanes in the mid-sixties, I
full agree.
Yes, let's agree, let's all donate a buck and send the poor
bastard a fruit basket.

--
Thanks, Frank.
(remove 'q' and 'invalid' when replying by email)
 
On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:56:17 -0700, John Larkin
<jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:29:07 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

On 21 Jul 2005 12:58:09 -0700, "cuddlybum" <gaymacon@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://gaymacon.tripod.com/

I'm sure it won't last but for those of you with fixed cost high speed
connections.....

I wonder how long it will last.

CuddlyBum

Ok, messing with Guy on usenet is fun enough. Mixing up servers, nyms
and readers to give his Bayesian filters a workout and him fits is all
right, good clean fun. But messing up his web site is taking it to
another level and can take a serious turn. Let's hope this doesn't
escalate.

Note I'm not defending Guy in any way. I rather wish he'd stay away
until he's back on his meds. His site will probably be back up again
shortly but I've heard of sites going down permanently due to some
shenanigan or other. Of course, he should have disabled hotlinking
from the start but it's usually not expected nor remembered.

- YD.


What is hotlinking?

John
Embedding images or other stuff from outside the local domain. Say I
have a page at www.xyz.com but am out of space or just want to play
silly buggers. It just so happens that www.johnlarkin.com has the
images I like to display so I'll embed links to them in my own stuff.
Now www.johnlarkin.com ends up carrying a big bandwidth load without
getting the benefit of anyone viewing the pages they're supposed be
in. Unless explicitly allowed it's generally considered bad form.

- YD.

--
Remove HAT if replying by mail.
 
YD wrote:

On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:56:17 -0700, John Larkin
jjlarkin@highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 23:29:07 -0300, YD <ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

On 21 Jul 2005 12:58:09 -0700, "cuddlybum" <gaymacon@yahoo.com> wrote:

http://gaymacon.tripod.com/

I'm sure it won't last but for those of you with fixed cost high speed
connections.....

I wonder how long it will last.

CuddlyBum

Ok, messing with Guy on usenet is fun enough. Mixing up servers, nyms
and readers to give his Bayesian filters a workout and him fits is all
right, good clean fun. But messing up his web site is taking it to
another level and can take a serious turn. Let's hope this doesn't
escalate.

Note I'm not defending Guy in any way. I rather wish he'd stay away
until he's back on his meds. His site will probably be back up again
shortly but I've heard of sites going down permanently due to some
shenanigan or other. Of course, he should have disabled hotlinking
from the start but it's usually not expected nor remembered.

- YD.


What is hotlinking?

John

Embedding images or other stuff from outside the local domain. Say I
have a page at www.xyz.com but am out of space or just want to play
silly buggers. It just so happens that www.johnlarkin.com has the
images I like to display so I'll embed links to them in my own stuff.
Now www.johnlarkin.com ends up carrying a big bandwidth load without
getting the benefit of anyone viewing the pages they're supposed be
in. Unless explicitly allowed it's generally considered bad form.
Aside from the bandwidth issue, there was a curious case here in the UK where
2 newspapers serving some region of the Scottish Islands became involved in a
dispute over one paper's site hotlinking to the other's.

In this case the objection was that it bypassed the 'donor site's homepage,
so it wasn't clear who had originated the material.

Graham
 
On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 18:27:00 -0300, the renowned YD
<ydtechHAT@techie.com> wrote:

Embedding images or other stuff from outside the local domain. Say I
have a page at www.xyz.com but am out of space or just want to play
silly buggers. It just so happens that www.johnlarkin.com has the
images I like to display so I'll embed links to them in my own stuff.
Now www.johnlarkin.com ends up carrying a big bandwidth load without
getting the benefit of anyone viewing the pages they're supposed be
in. Unless explicitly allowed it's generally considered bad form.

- YD.
It's not uncommon on eBay. When discovered, SOP for the injured party
is to substitute a high-res photo of steaming dog poo, pornography or
something like that. If the auction is close to the end, they are not
allowed to edit it, so they can't even change the link to point
elsewhere.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
speff@interlog.com Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com
 
Pooh Bear wrote:
Aside from the bandwidth issue, there was a curious case here in the UK where
2 newspapers serving some region of the Scottish Islands became involved in a
dispute over one paper's site hotlinking to the other's.

In this case the objection was that it bypassed the 'donor site's homepage,
so it wasn't clear who had originated the material.
Sounds similar to a US case involving a major event ticket broker
(TicketMaster?). They took issue with "deep linking" because it pointed
users directly to a sub-page on their site, bypassed their normal
navigation steps and the associated advertising.

Of course, the fix for both these issues is for the server to deny any
requests where the referrer is not the domain / URL you desire (i.e., if
the request shows as having been linked from another site). This is how
places like geocities force you to view the entire page (including ads)
to see a posted image.

Richard
 
Rich Grise, but drunk wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 03:37:12 +0100, Pooh Bear wrote:

Winfield Hill wrote:

Rich Grise wrote...

Electroniker wrote:


Leave the guy alone.


Apparently, Minnesotans are the only ones around here with any
compassion for the poor schlub.

I wonder if he's been paying attention?



Well..... Someone's been busy changing his website to text format and I
don't think that's likely to be anyone else. Yeah, I reckon someone got
his attention.



But, hey, what's this about his website? I thought it was already
"in text format". It is, after all, one of the leanest and cleanest
websites - - - wait a sec - I just went to check to back up my words,
and I got:
------------------
The server had a hard disk failure, so I am taking this opportunity to
reorganize my website. The old site should be bcak Real Soon Now...

This is 216.73.122.76\www\index.html
------------------
at www.guymacon.com.

Maybe we got through! (but then we can start ragging on him about
his (mis)use of the term, "Real Soon Now". ;-P )

Cheers!
Rich


Real Soon Now - An indeterminate period of time, between 2 days and 2
years. See also Vaporware...

From Byte, back in the 70s!

Charlie
 

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