Harvey Norman the pommy view.

[kreed]

On Jan 17, 8:19 am, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 16/01/2011 7:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote:> keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since
it will be locked to the ATT network, importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner
would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly
to our 50Hz system even if you were willing to drag a transformer around
after it.

You might be able to crack the Ipad, and it may work in Aus under

another network by agreement, however you probably had to sign up with
ATT in the first place.
For example Russian "Bee-line" prepaid sim brought back from Russia
worked perfectly here under optus. bit hard to top it up though

Having said this though, unless you know up front that it can be done,
I wouldnt take the risk.


As for Vacuum cleaners, I could be wrong but don't they use universal
brush type motors ? This type should work ok on 60hz - even DC ?

Since the table was simply there to show the price differences, not the
practicality of importing the stuff all of that that is totally
irrelevant. Somebody is making a bomb out of the Australian consumer,
anybody notice a price drop of 20% or so in the last few months? I
didn't think so.

 

[keithr]

On 17/01/2011 11:45 AM, kreed wrote:

On Jan 17, 8:19 am, keithr<kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:
On 16/01/2011 7:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote:> keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since
it will be locked to the ATT network, importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner
would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly
to our 50Hz system even if you were willing to drag a transformer around
after it.

You might be able to crack the Ipad, and it may work in Aus under
another network by agreement, however you probably had to sign up with
ATT in the first place.
For example Russian "Bee-line" prepaid sim brought back from Russia
worked perfectly here under optus. bit hard to top it up though

Having said this though, unless you know up front that it can be done,
I wouldnt take the risk.


As for Vacuum cleaners, I could be wrong but don't they use universal
brush type motors ? This type should work ok on 60hz - even DC ?

My experience is that motors designed for 60Hz do tend to run rather hot
even if they have universal motors. A friend brought a radial arm saw
back from the US, you couldn't use it for more than 5 minutes before it
shut down and had to be left for 10 minutes or so to cool down.

 

[keithr]

On 17/01/2011 9:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:

keithr wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since it will be locked to the ATT network,

Pity about importing it from somewhere else.

importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly to our 50Hz
system

Plenty of motors do fine with that difference.

Some do most get too hot.

even if you were willing to drag a transformer around after it.

There might be a bit more than transformers now.

You could use an inverter, or even use UPS I suppose, neither of which
is practical for a vacuum cleaner.

Since the table was simply there to show the price differences, not the practicality of importing the stuff all of
that that is totally irrelevant.

Nope, what was being discussed was the GST campaign, stupid.

Somebody is making a bomb out of the Australian consumer,

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aint. Have a look at the price of Samsung 2TB
drives for example. No one is making a bomb out of the Australian consumer with those.

Computer components are mostly an exception. Most of it is little
cheaper even in Hong Kong.

anybody notice a price drop of 20% or so in the last few months?

Its been a hell of a lot more than that with TVs, stupid.

Over recent years - yes. Over the last few months in line with the
dollars rise - no.

I didn't think so.

Yes, its always been obvious that you dont have what you need to think with.

Any you have always been arrogant enought to believe in your own
infallibility. You missed your true vocation, you should have been pope.

 

[Petzl]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 10:37:06 +1000, "SG1" <lostitall@the.races> wrote:

Transformers can't convert 50Hz into 60Hz anyway.
Mr. Dyson is your typical self-promoting wanker-when the old Hoover is
directly compared the
Dyson design has LESS suction.

Ah yes but the technology???? The technology, which has not been embraced by
Oz sellers of technology. Kinda bit weird eh????

I've found the only hand dryers that really work well are the Dyson
type. Bought a Dyson Fan which I reckon at $500 (Harvey Norman) is
expensive but looks nice is quite and gives a perfect breeze. Wonder
why the copies aren't out?
--
Petzl
http://home.iprimus.com.au/petzl/Mono.htm

 

[kreed]

On Jan 17, 12:01 pm, keithr <kei...@nowhere.com.au> wrote:

On 17/01/2011 11:45 AM, kreed wrote:



On Jan 17, 8:19 am, keithr<kei...@nowhere.com.au>  wrote:
On 16/01/2011 7:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote:>  keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since
it will be locked to the ATT network, importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner
would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly
to our 50Hz system even if you were willing to drag a transformer around
after it.

You might be able to crack the Ipad, and it may work in Aus under
another network by agreement, however you probably had to sign up with
ATT in the first place.
For example Russian "Bee-line" prepaid sim brought back from Russia
worked perfectly here under optus. bit hard to top it up though

Having said this though, unless you know up front that it can be done,
I wouldnt take the risk.

As for Vacuum cleaners, I could be wrong but don't  they use universal
brush type motors ?   This type should work ok on 60hz  - even DC ?

My experience is that motors designed for 60Hz do tend to run rather hot
even if they have universal motors. A friend brought a radial arm saw
back from the US, you couldn't use it for more than 5 minutes before it
shut down and had to be left for 10 minutes or so to cool down.

In the 1990s a local nut processing plant opened and purchased all
their equipment from the USA.
I use a local engineering/metalwork shop that was doing their work.

I remember seeing boxes of discarded
US power sockets, wire, fuse boxes and other gear, along with a few
large 3 phase squirrel cage motors sitting in the
workshop. Asked him out of interest what it was from and he mentioned
the nut place and how motors were constantly
burning out, and needed to be re-wound despite being run on 120v via a
large transformer.

the motors that were in his workshop were being sent off to be rewound
after cooking.


Informed him of the 60hz problem, and that the only solutions were to
1>make the 120v into 60hz using some sort of converter.
2>replace the motor with a suitable 240v one, but the RPM would be
lower.

Also to make matters worse, the gear was running probably 1/6th slower
than it was designed for.

depending on the cost and loss of efficiency in the conversion - using
the converter was probably the best option as
replacing the motors would have resulted in the equipment still
running slower than intended, and changes to gear ratios/pulleys
etc would probably be needed if this was an issue.

I informed him of all this, I don't know the outcome, the place
closed down a few years later.

 

[Rod Speed]

fritz wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
keithr wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since it will be locked to the ATT network,

Pity about importing it from somewhere else.

importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly to our 50Hz
system

Plenty of motors do fine with that difference.

even if you were willing to drag a transformer around after it.

There might be a bit more than transformers now.

Transformers can't convert 50Hz into 60Hz anyway.

Yes, but plenty of motors dont care about that sort of frequency difference.

Mr. Dyson is your typical self-promoting wanker-when the old Hoover is directly compared the Dyson design has LESS
suction.

Irrelevant to what is being discussed.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr wrote

Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since it will be locked to the ATT network,

Pity about importing it from somewhere else.

importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly to our 50Hz
system

Plenty of motors do fine with that difference.

Some do most get too hot.

That most is just plain wrong.

even if you were willing to drag a transformer around after it.

There might be a bit more than transformers now.

You could use an inverter, or even use UPS I suppose, neither of which is practical for a vacuum cleaner.

Pity there is plenty that is completely practical with a vacuum cleaner.

Since the table was simply there to show the price differences, not
the practicality of importing the stuff all of that that is totally irrelevant.

Nope, what was being discussed was the GST campaign, stupid.

Somebody is making a bomb out of the Australian consumer,

Sometimes they are, sometimes they aint. Have a look at the price of Samsung 2TB drives for example. No one is making
a bomb out of the Australian consumer with those.

Computer components are mostly an exception.

Utterly mangled all over again.

Most of it is little cheaper even in Hong Kong.

That is just plain wrong.

anybody notice a price drop of 20% or so in the last few months?

Its been a hell of a lot more than that with TVs, stupid.

Over recent years - yes. Over the last few months in line with the dollars rise - no.

That last is just plain wrong.

I didn't think so.

Yes, its always been obvious that you dont have what you need to think with.

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>

 

[keithr]

On 17/01/2011 1:44 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

Oh dear Rod is out of ideas, always the same when he doesn't have an
answer, out come the same tired old insults. He hasn't managed to think
of anything new in the last 20 years.

 

[Fred]

The two were aligned in 2005 budget
http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/bp3/html/bp3_appendix_a.htm
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/notices/ACN0557.pdf

Rod Speed wrote:

Jack Simms wrote:

actually Rod, not quite true

You're wrong.

The GST exemption limit applies to anything brought for personal use,
no matter how its sent.

Wrong. Those two limits apply to stuff for personal
use, and the limit varys with the value of the item.

I have had many items delivered, mainly books and computer
software/parts ex-USA, and have ALWAYS had them shipped
either FEDEX or DHL. And only once been charged GST,

Yes, they dont manage to charge it every time when its due.

when the value exceeded AUD$1000

Nope, when it exceeded $250, legally. Someone fucked up.
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/importinggoodsbypostfaq.pdf
http://www.utas.edu.au/docs/fin_services/tax/gst/imports.pdf

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles,
its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over
the exemption level, stupids.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr wrote:

<reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs>

 

[Rod Speed]

Fred wrote:

The two were aligned in 2005 budget
http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/bp3/html/bp3_appendix_a.htm
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/notices/ACN0557.pdf

But there is no exemption for consignments containing tobacco, tobacco products or alcoholic beverages.

Rod Speed wrote:
Jack Simms wrote:

actually Rod, not quite true

You're wrong.

The GST exemption limit applies to anything brought for personal
use, no matter how its sent.

Wrong. Those two limits apply to stuff for personal
use, and the limit varys with the value of the item.

I have had many items delivered, mainly books and computer
software/parts ex-USA, and have ALWAYS had them shipped
either FEDEX or DHL. And only once been charged GST,

Yes, they dont manage to charge it every time when its due.

when the value exceeded AUD$1000

Nope, when it exceeded $250, legally. Someone fucked up.
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/files/importinggoodsbypostfaq.pdf
http://www.utas.edu.au/docs/fin_services/tax/gst/imports.pdf

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles,
its $250 with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over
the exemption level, stupids.

 

[SG1]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8phvviFv8eU1@mid.individual.net...

Fred wrote:
The two were aligned in 2005 budget
http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/bp3/html/bp3_appendix_a.htm
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/notices/ACN0557.pdf

But there is no exemption for consignments containing tobacco, tobacco
products or alcoholic beverages.

Yep Hardly sells lots of booze?????

 

[keithr]

On 17/01/2011 3:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:

keithr wrote:

reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs


I didn't write that

 

[atec77]

On 17/01/2011 5:43 PM, keithr wrote:

On 17/01/2011 3:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr wrote:

reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead
flushed where it belongs


I didn't write that
No woddles the clueless has the patent on that idiocy

you have your own brand of nfi

--
X-No-Archive: Yes

 

[Rod Speed]

SG1 wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Fred wrote

The two were aligned in 2005 budget
http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/bp3/html/bp3_appendix_a.htm
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/notices/ACN0557.pdf

But there is no exemption for consignments containing tobacco, tobacco products or alcoholic beverages.

Yep Hardly sells lots of booze?????

There is a hell of a lot more than just Hardly involved in the GST campaign, stupid.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr wrote

Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote:

reams of your puerile shit any 2 year old could leave for dead flushed where it belongs

I didn't write that

Never said you did. If I had said that, it would have had just one > in front of it, you stupid pommy fuckwit.

 

[Baron]

keithr Inscribed thus:

On 16/01/2011 7:21 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr wrote:

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250
with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over the
exemption level, stupids.


Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile since
it will be locked to the ATT network, importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner
would end in tears as the US 60Hz motor would probably not take kindly
to our 50Hz system even if you were willing to drag a transformer
around after it.

Actually it wouldn't. Its the same motor for both 50 & 60 Hz.

Since the table was simply there to show the price differences, not
the practicality of importing the stuff all of that that is totally
irrelevant. Somebody is making a bomb out of the Australian consumer,
anybody notice a price drop of 20% or so in the last few months? I
didn't think so.

--
Best Regards:
Baron.

 

[SG1]

"Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8pif3tFbp8U1@mid.individual.net...

SG1 wrote
Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
Fred wrote

The two were aligned in 2005 budget
http://www.budget.gov.au/2006-07/bp3/html/bp3_appendix_a.htm
http://www.customs.gov.au/webdata/resources/notices/ACN0557.pdf

But there is no exemption for consignments containing tobacco, tobacco
products or alcoholic beverages.

Yep Hardly sells lots of booze?????

There is a hell of a lot more than just Hardly involved in the GST
campaign, stupid.

The tag line is Hardly Normal and I think that describes you to a T, might
have to go for very abnormal.

 

[Rod Speed]

Some gutless fuckwit desperately cowering behind
SG1 wrote just the puerile shit thats all it can ever manage.

 

[Clocky]

keithr wrote:

On 17/01/2011 9:57 AM, Rod Speed wrote:
keithr wrote
Rod Speed wrote
keithr wrote

http://www.channelregister.co.uk/2011/01/10/internet_tax_row/

Typical stupid poms, couldnt even get the basics right.

Nothing was 'led' by Harvey, he was JUST the mouthpiece.

And the exemption level is only $1K with posted articles, its $250
with stuff that moves by courier.

And the fridge is irrelevant, it isnt exempt because its way over
the exemption level, stupids.

Importing the 3g iPad from the US is likely to be just as futile
since it will be locked to the ATT network,

Pity about importing it from somewhere else.

importing a Dyson vacuum cleaner would end in tears as the US 60Hz
motor would probably not take kindly to our 50Hz system

Plenty of motors do fine with that difference.

Some do most get too hot.

Bullshit, an AC motor would hardly notice the difference in Hz... voltage is
another matter though.