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Gareth Magennis
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I'm not really up to speed on these things, but of what benefit is this to
the Spammer?
Gareth.
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I'm not really up to speed on these things, but of what benefit is this to
the Spammer?
Gareth.
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Michael A. Terrell
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Gareth Magennis wrote:
If you can't find it, you can't flag it. This case was stupid,
because the thread was so old. To be effective, it needs to be in a
recent thread with no activity. That way, if someone reads that thread,
or post to it from any NNTP server, it will show up.
It was a spammer's attemt to get past Google's new reporting system.
Find a dead thread and reply to it, then change the subject line and
reply again. You can't find it to report it, without wading through all
the open threads.
I'm not really up to speed on these things, but of what benefit is this to
the Spammer?
If you can't find it, you can't flag it. This case was stupid,
because the thread was so old. To be effective, it needs to be in a
recent thread with no activity. That way, if someone reads that thread,
or post to it from any NNTP server, it will show up.
J
John Robertson
Guest
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
was a 'new' posting.
Thanks for bringing this scam to my(and the newsgroups') attention,
Michael, - I'll keep an eye out in the future!
John :-#)#
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Ah, wasn't paying attention to the internal date, only noticed that itJohn Robertson wrote:
ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...
You don't want to screw things up really now do you?
John, that post is over eight years old.
was a 'new' posting.
Thanks for bringing this scam to my(and the newsgroups') attention,
Michael, - I'll keep an eye out in the future!
John :-#)#
--
(Please post followups or tech enquiries to the newsgroup)
John's Jukes Ltd. 2343 Main St., Vancouver, BC, Canada V5T 3C9
Call (604)872-5757 or Fax 872-2010 (Pinballs, Jukes, Video Games)
www.flippers.com
"Old pinballers never die, they just flip out."
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Michael A. Terrell
Guest
John Robertson wrote:
I figured out what he was up to when I flagged more of that stupid
'Solution' spam on Google groups. That thread popped up, and I saw the
blank reply where they test posted, then the one with a different
subject line for the 'Water Damage' spam.
Michael A. Terrell wrote:
John Robertson wrote:
ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...
You don't want to screw things up really now do you?
John, that post is over eight years old.
Ah, wasn't paying attention to the internal date, only noticed that it
was a 'new' posting.
Thanks for bringing this scam to my(and the newsgroups') attention,
Michael, - I'll keep an eye out in the future!
I figured out what he was up to when I flagged more of that stupid
'Solution' spam on Google groups. That thread popped up, and I saw the
blank reply where they test posted, then the one with a different
subject line for the 'Water Damage' spam.
Guest
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Apparently the circuit board for a drive that old can be swapped with any other of the same model and version (a model can come in more than one version) because those boards aren't tuned to the particular drive's individual heads and servo, as they are with newer drives. OnePCBsolution.com sells replacement boards, and for newer boards that have to be tuned, will swap the original board's BIOS chip into it for an extra $50.
If the surface mount chip has 2 terminals and is near the power connector, it could be an overvoltage protector, essentially a zener diode rated for either about 6.5V (for the +5V supply) or 14V (for the +12V supply), and it probably caused a nearby fuse to also blow. You have to replace any blown fuses, and you should replace the voltage protector to prevent even worse damage later. Those parts are common.
Some old Quantum and Maxtor HDs have 8-pin IRF7107 chips:
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf7107.pdf
or equivalent -- some drives instead had National Semiconductor chips) that would blow. 3 are used to spin the motor, 3 others to move the heads.
If the data is that essential, send it out to a pro.Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
Apparently the circuit board for a drive that old can be swapped with any other of the same model and version (a model can come in more than one version) because those boards aren't tuned to the particular drive's individual heads and servo, as they are with newer drives. OnePCBsolution.com sells replacement boards, and for newer boards that have to be tuned, will swap the original board's BIOS chip into it for an extra $50.
If the surface mount chip has 2 terminals and is near the power connector, it could be an overvoltage protector, essentially a zener diode rated for either about 6.5V (for the +5V supply) or 14V (for the +12V supply), and it probably caused a nearby fuse to also blow. You have to replace any blown fuses, and you should replace the voltage protector to prevent even worse damage later. Those parts are common.
Some old Quantum and Maxtor HDs have 8-pin IRF7107 chips:
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf7107.pdf
or equivalent -- some drives instead had National Semiconductor chips) that would blow. 3 are used to spin the motor, 3 others to move the heads.
M
Michael A. Terrell
Guest
larrymoencurly@my-deja.com wrote:
Do you think he's waited _eight years_ for your help? ;-)
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
If the data is that essential, send it out to a pro.
Apparently the circuit board for a drive that old can be swapped with any other of the same model and version (a model can come in more than one version) because those boards aren't tuned to the particular drive's individual heads and servo, as they are with newer drives. OnePCBsolution.com sells replacement boards, and for newer boards that have to be tuned, will swap the original board's BIOS chip into it for an extra $50.
If the surface mount chip has 2 terminals and is near the power connector, it could be an overvoltage protector, essentially a zener diode rated for either about 6.5V (for the +5V supply) or 14V (for the +12V supply), and it probably caused a nearby fuse to also blow. You have to replace any blown fuses, and you should replace the voltage protector to prevent even worse damage later. Those parts are common.
Some old Quantum and Maxtor HDs have 8-pin IRF7107 chips:
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf7107.pdf
or equivalent -- some drives instead had National Semiconductor chips) that would blow. 3 are used to spin the motor, 3 others to move the heads.
Do you think he's waited _eight years_ for your help? ;-)
G
Gareth Magennis
Guest
"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mb2dnem03pnW8ZjNnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink.com...
Maybe it was one of these?
http://www.crystalinks.com/phaistosdisc.html
Gareth,
news:mb2dnem03pnW8ZjNnZ2dnUVZ_gednZ2d@earthlink.com...
larrymoencurly@my-deja.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB
hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip
on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced.
It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The
drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in
business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
If the data is that essential, send it out to a pro.
Apparently the circuit board for a drive that old can be swapped with any
other of the same model and version (a model can come in more than one
version) because those boards aren't tuned to the particular drive's
individual heads and servo, as they are with newer drives.
OnePCBsolution.com sells replacement boards, and for newer boards that
have to be tuned, will swap the original board's BIOS chip into it for an
extra $50.
If the surface mount chip has 2 terminals and is near the power
connector, it could be an overvoltage protector, essentially a zener
diode rated for either about 6.5V (for the +5V supply) or 14V (for the
+12V supply), and it probably caused a nearby fuse to also blow. You
have to replace any blown fuses, and you should replace the voltage
protector to prevent even worse damage later. Those parts are common.
Some old Quantum and Maxtor HDs have 8-pin IRF7107 chips:
http://www.irf.com/product-info/datasheets/data/irf7107.pdf
or equivalent -- some drives instead had National Semiconductor chips)
that would blow. 3 are used to spin the motor, 3 others to move the
heads.
Do you think he's waited _eight years_ for your help? ;-)
Maybe it was one of these?
http://www.crystalinks.com/phaistosdisc.html
Gareth,