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R3Jar

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Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
 
"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB
hardrive that when my house caught on fire it looks like a small
surface mount chip on the printed circuit board fried. The board
looks like it could be replaced. It is on the bottom of the drive and
the connector is attached to it. The drive has essential data on it
and I think I could swap it out and be back in business. Anybody have
any thoughts on this? TIA
Roy
Buy an identical drive on eBay and swap out that board. It's worth a
try. I've done it before and it worked.
--
YS
 
Well, we really didn't get much info. You said your house caught fire.
Now, was the said hard drive, in the fire? Why is the chip fried? Is it
because of the fire? If so, you are looking that the heat of the fire could
have damaged the Hard Drive (Warping the inside). Did the chip fry because
of water damage? If so, you may be looking at water damage to the Hard
drive, therefore it wouldn't work. Now, if it is a completely unrelated
issue, you may pull off getting another board for it. Give us more
information. We may be able to tell you if it can be pulled off. But if
either of the two examples are true, A shot may all it will be....

Rick

"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com...
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive
that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on
the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It
is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive
has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in
business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
 
None of the hardrive is designed for repair. The manufactures don't provide
circuit and instruction of operation. It is a black box to users. Is there
any book that gives detail in hardrive and controler at all?


"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com...
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive
that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on
the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It
is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive
has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in
business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
 
The fire did not reach the computer. The smoke and heat did. No water damage.
So I think I am going to give it a try. Thanks for the reply.
 
Dirty air will probably damage the platters before the board.

I know it's not good news but, been there done it and I got nothing good to
say.

Sorry.

JURB
 
In article <E2xrc.1085$AN1.207@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Yellow Submarine" <yellowsub@invalid.xx> wrote:

"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB
hardrive that when my house caught on fire it looks like a small
surface mount chip on the printed circuit board fried. The board
looks like it could be replaced. It is on the bottom of the drive and
the connector is attached to it. The drive has essential data on it
and I think I could swap it out and be back in business. Anybody have
any thoughts on this? TIA
Roy

Buy an identical drive on eBay and swap out that board. It's worth a
try. I've done it before and it worked.
I aggree with this.. but you have to find EXACTLY the same drive
same reference and exchange the two boards...
this worked for some of my customers some times..
the most difficult is to find the same drive.

good luck;

--
Jean-Yves.
 
Suggestion: If indeed you get a controller board that makes the drive
function. First: Mandated: Copy all the data to a new hard drive. Second:
Fdisk, Repartition, and Reformat the original hard drive and use it only as
a secondary item until you know absolutely it will be totally functional.
Third: Have a go at it, nothing ventured nothing gained, Eh?? Good Luck
FYI: I've succeeded in doing a very similar thing to Laptop Hard drives that
have been questionable due to eithe thermal or physical damage and managed
to acually restore about 60% of those attempted, and proved them to be
functional over an extended peroid of time.
"Comm" <comm@google.com> wrote in message
news:vyxrc.2907$SI7.1648@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com...
None of the hardrive is designed for repair. The manufactures don't
provide
circuit and instruction of operation. It is a black box to users. Is there
any book that gives detail in hardrive and controler at all?


"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com...
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive
that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on
the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced.
It
is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive
has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in
business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
 
In article <20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com>,
R3Jar <r3jar@aol.com> wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball
a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried.
Can you post any of the markings on the chip that fried, or the chip
designation on the boards next to the fried chip?

Quantum got the "Fireball" bit right when they fitted a questionable
batch of Cirrus Logic chips ... which did quite literally burn up. You may
have been bitten by that failure. It was a chip connected with the platter
motor, IIRC. No platter spin, no working drive :(

--
--------------------------------------+------------------------------------
Mike Brown: mjb[at]pootle.demon.co.uk | http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/
 
In article <jypochez_nopub-ED0118.10111722052004@news2-e.proxad.net>,
Jean-Yves <jypochez_nopub@free.fr> wrote:

In article <E2xrc.1085$AN1.207@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Yellow Submarine" <yellowsub@invalid.xx> wrote:

"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB
hardrive that when my house caught on fire it looks like a small
surface mount chip on the printed circuit board fried. The board
looks like it could be replaced. It is on the bottom of the drive and
the connector is attached to it. The drive has essential data on it
and I think I could swap it out and be back in business. Anybody have
any thoughts on this? TIA
Roy

Buy an identical drive on eBay and swap out that board. It's worth a
try. I've done it before and it worked.

I aggree with this.. but you have to find EXACTLY the same drive
same reference and exchange the two boards...
this worked for some of my customers some times..
the most difficult is to find the same drive.
Sometimes there is a PROM on board, and the manufacturer writes
device-specific stuff in it during testing. In that case,even
"identical" appearing boards aren't interchangable.

Isaac
 
On Sun, 23 May 2004 02:58:07 GMT, Isaac Wingfield <isw@witzend.com>
wrote:

In article <jypochez_nopub-ED0118.10111722052004@news2-e.proxad.net>,
Jean-Yves <jypochez_nopub@free.fr> wrote:

In article <E2xrc.1085$AN1.207@twister.socal.rr.com>,
"Yellow Submarine" <yellowsub@invalid.xx> wrote:

"R3Jar" <r3jar@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB
hardrive that when my house caught on fire it looks like a small
surface mount chip on the printed circuit board fried. The board
looks like it could be replaced. It is on the bottom of the drive and
the connector is attached to it. The drive has essential data on it
and I think I could swap it out and be back in business. Anybody have
any thoughts on this? TIA
Roy

Buy an identical drive on eBay and swap out that board. It's worth a
try. I've done it before and it worked.

I aggree with this.. but you have to find EXACTLY the same drive
same reference and exchange the two boards...
this worked for some of my customers some times..
the most difficult is to find the same drive.

Sometimes there is a PROM on board, and the manufacturer writes
device-specific stuff in it during testing. In that case,even
"identical" appearing boards aren't interchangable.

Isaac
This is more common on scsi drives. I think a large portion of IDE
actually store this info on the disk itself and the eeprom on the
board just has enough of a program to boot and load this info.
Different firmware versions on the boards can cause problems though.

In general, I've had about 50/50 luck swapping boards. I've even had
luck swapping boards between IDE models of different capacity (but
other wise the same model line).

-Chris
 
Its Probably TDA5247HT......by Phillips. We have a Service where you can
send in the Drive, and we can xfer the data to another Drive you supply.

We also sell the Chips, but out of stock right now.

http://www.technotronic-dimensions.com/quantum.htm


"Mike" <mjb@posie.local.dom> wrote in message
news:c8o6dv$sih$1@posie.local.dom...
| In article <20040521200720.27424.00001051@mb-m24.aol.com>,
| R3Jar <r3jar@aol.com> wrote:
| >Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball
| > a small surface mount chip on the
| >printed circuit board fried.
|
| Can you post any of the markings on the chip that fried, or the chip
| designation on the boards next to the fried chip?
|
| Quantum got the "Fireball" bit right when they fitted a questionable
| batch of Cirrus Logic chips ... which did quite literally burn up. You may
| have been bitten by that failure. It was a chip connected with the platter
| motor, IIRC. No platter spin, no working drive :(
|
| --
| --------------------------------------+-----------------------------------
-
| Mike Brown: mjb[at]pootle.demon.co.uk | http://www.pootle.demon.co.uk/
 
Yellow Submarine wrote:
Buy an identical drive on eBay and swap out that board. It's worth a
try. I've done it before and it worked.
--
YS
This doesn't work on the Quantum drives.

In fact, it's actually rare for this to work at all.


Odie
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RetroData
Data Recovery Experts
www.retrodata.co.uk
 
Isaac Wingfield wrote:
Sometimes there is a PROM on board, and the manufacturer writes
device-specific stuff in it during testing. In that case,even
"identical" appearing boards aren't interchangable.

Isaac
This is very much so the case in most drives.

Odie
--

RetroData
Data Recovery Experts
www.retrodata.co.uk
 
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On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
 
ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy
If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...

You don't want to screw things up really now do you?

John :-#)#

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John Robertson wrote:
ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy


If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...

You don't want to screw things up really now do you?

John, that post is over eight years old.
 
On 15/07/2012 4:38 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
John Robertson wrote:

ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy


If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...

You don't want to screw things up really now do you?


John, that post is over eight years old.
Amazing what pops up really !!
Like we are in a time warp.

R.P
 
Rheilly Phoull wrote:
On 15/07/2012 4:38 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

John Robertson wrote:

ttumpa1986@gmail.com wrote:
On Friday, May 21, 2004 5:07:20 PM UTC-7, R3Jar wrote:
Has anybody repaired a hardrive? I have a quantum fireball 30 GB hardrive that
when my house caught on fire it looks like a small surface mount chip on the
printed circuit board fried. The board looks like it could be replaced. It is
on the bottom of the drive and the connector is attached to it. The drive has
essential data on it and I think I could swap it out and be back in business.
Anybody have any thoughts on this?
TIA
Roy


If the data is irreplaceable (and valuable to you) then you want to
check out a few of the businesses who recover data from drives. They
should be able to handle drives that have been in a fire. There are a
LOT of things to consider with heat and smoke, not the least is smoke
makes conductive paths that you can't see but can destroy electronics if
powered up. Heat can damage the bearings on the drive which means if you
try to spin it up your drive motor could seize up or the bearing could
fail and drag the heads across the discs destroying them...

You don't want to screw things up really now do you?


John, that post is over eight years old.


Amazing what pops up really !!
Like we are in a time warp.

It was a spammer's attemt to get past Google's new reporting system.
Find a dead thread and reply to it, then change the subject line and
reply again. You can't find it to report it, without wading through all
the open threads.
 

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