Happy voting...

[Klaus Kragelund]

Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

 

[David Brown]

On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope that the
person most people vote for, wins the election. And let\'s hope that the
winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:

On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent
y
May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope that the
person most people vote for, wins the election. And let\'s hope that the
winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

The United States isn\'t a democracy.
<https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy>
Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\" if you don\'t care for
this source.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 03/11/20 08:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

Putin has volunteered sending observers to the US, to ensure the
elections are free and fair.

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/03/russia-offers-to-send-observers-to-usa-to-ensure-free-and-fair-election/

 

[David Brown]

On 03/11/2020 15:38, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 03/11/20 08:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


Putin has volunteered sending observers to the US, to ensure the
elections are free and fair.

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/03/russia-offers-to-send-observers-to-usa-to-ensure-free-and-fair-election/

Maybe they should ask Kim for observers and election advice. North
Korea does a better job of ensuring everyone is able to vote, and
encouraging them to exercise their democratic rights. There\'s only one
name on the voting lists, but at least there are no armed mobs scaring
away people that might pick someone else.

 

[John S]

On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent
y
May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope that the
person most people vote for, wins the election.  And let\'s hope that the
winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

      The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy

   Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\"  if you don\'t care for
this source.

Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.

 

[John S]

On 11/3/2020 8:38 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 03/11/20 08:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


Putin has volunteered sending observers to the US, to ensure the
elections are free and fair.

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/03/russia-offers-to-send-observers-to-usa-to-ensure-free-and-fair-election/

Hmmm. Fox guarding the hen house?

 

[server]

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:32:44 +0100, David Brown
<david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country -

The Constitution defines what it is. Any terms you use are your
opinion and have no force in law.







--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Rickster C]

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:

On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent
y
May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope that the
person most people vote for, wins the election.  And let\'s hope that the
winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

      The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy

   Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\"  if you don\'t care for
this source.


Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and monarchy..

It is best described as a democratic republic.

No, the \"people\" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying, \"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.\" The \"people\" have pea shooters while the government has real weapons and is willing to use them.

We have had two recent examples of the \"will of the people\" being ignored when the government blindly followed the Constitution rather than the will of the people, in one case involving the Supreme Court. While the letter of the law was followed, the will of the people was not. So clearly the \"people\" do not have \"ultimate power\". The government does.

--

Rick C.

- Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
- Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[David Brown]

On 03/11/2020 17:21, Rickster C wrote:

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and
that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent y May the
best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope
that the person most people vote for, wins the election. And
let\'s hope that the winner of the election gets to be the next
president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in
the USA.

The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy


Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\" if you don\'t care for
this source.


Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and
monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.

No, the \"people\" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest
quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying, \"Political power grows out of
the barrel of a gun.\" The \"people\" have pea shooters while the
government has real weapons and is willing to use them.

Well, it is /intended/ that the \"people\" have the ultimate power.

We have had two recent examples of the \"will of the people\" being
ignored when the government blindly followed the Constitution rather
than the will of the people, in one case involving the Supreme Court.
While the letter of the law was followed, the will of the people was
not. So clearly the \"people\" do not have \"ultimate power\". The
government does.

It is /intended/ that the government is empowered by the will of the
people - that\'s the idea of a democracy. The practice is not always
that good. (And the USA fails many of the checkboxes of a good
democracy, such as fair voting, with all eligible voters having the same
weighting as practically possible.)

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 03/11/20 15:11, John S wrote:

On 11/3/2020 8:38 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
On 03/11/20 08:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election
aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


Putin has volunteered sending observers to the US, to ensure the
elections are free and fair.

https://newsthump.com/2020/11/03/russia-offers-to-send-observers-to-usa-to-ensure-free-and-fair-election/


Hmmm. Fox guarding the hen house?

NewsThump guarding the Fox ;}

 

[Ed Lee]

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 8:21:18 AM UTC-8, Rickster C wrote:

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent
y
May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope that the
person most people vote for, wins the election. And let\'s hope that the
winner of the election gets to be the next president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in the USA.

The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy

Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\" if you don\'t care for
this source.


Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.
No, the \"people\" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying,

\"Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun.\"
Or the \"ball of a pen\".

CCP would not have survived without lying and decepting the US. CCP, with the help of US reporters, told the US they are true democracy, representing the people. We are know how it turns out.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/3/2020 3:34 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

Strolchi grinst gelassen bis zum Uberdruss, Susi gibt Strolchi einen
Zungenkuss, Westi quatscht reaktionären Stuss, und Hilmar übt den
Hitlergruss, da bellt der Jörgl laut: \"BEI FUSS!\"

 

[Dean Hoffman]

On 11/3/20 10:35 AM, David Brown wrote:

On 03/11/2020 17:21, Rickster C wrote:
On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and
that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent y May the
best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope
that the person most people vote for, wins the election. And
let\'s hope that the winner of the election gets to be the next
president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in
the USA.

The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy


Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\" if you don\'t care for
this source.


Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and
monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.

No, the \"people\" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest
quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying, \"Political power grows out of
the barrel of a gun.\" The \"people\" have pea shooters while the
government has real weapons and is willing to use them.

Well, it is /intended/ that the \"people\" have the ultimate power.


We have had two recent examples of the \"will of the people\" being
ignored when the government blindly followed the Constitution rather
than the will of the people, in one case involving the Supreme Court.
While the letter of the law was followed, the will of the people was
not. So clearly the \"people\" do not have \"ultimate power\". The
government does.


It is /intended/ that the government is empowered by the will of the
people - that\'s the idea of a democracy. The practice is not always
that good. (And the USA fails many of the checkboxes of a good
democracy, such as fair voting, with all eligible voters having the same
weighting as practically possible.)

That could be helped with a change in the Electoral College by
your state
officials. Maine and Nebraska make it possible for there to be a split in
the Elector\'s vote.
I\'ll write about Nebraska. It has three Congressional districts so
it has
a total of five Electoral College votes. The winner of each Congressional
district gets a vote. The winner of the total state vote gets the two
Electoral
College votes representing the Senators. It\'s possible for the vote to be
split.
There would still be a firewall in case the national vote is really
close.
It wouldn\'t be necessary for the whole country to do a recount if there\'s
some sort of dispute in one state.

 

[Ed Lee]

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 9:13:57 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:

On 11/3/2020 3:34 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

Strolchi grinst gelassen bis zum Uberdruss, Susi gibt Strolchi einen
Zungenkuss, Westi quatscht reaktionären Stuss, und Hilmar übt den
Hitlergruss, da bellt der Jörgl laut: \"BEI FUSS!\"

Google translate said:

Strolchi grins calmly ad nauseam, Susi gives Strolchi one French kiss, Westi chats reactionary nudge, and Hilmar practices it Hitler salute, Jörgl barks loudly: \"BEI FUSS!\"

What does that really mean?

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:32:44 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country -

The Constitution defines what it is. Any terms you use are your
opinion and have no force in law.

+1

I can only add that one vote, but someone in Chicago just found a stack
of boxes full of ballots that also have to be counted, just like they
did in 1960.

+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1
+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1+1

 

[Tom Del Rosso]

Klaus Kragelund wrote:

Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the
election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

There would be no chance of violence if the Democratic party hadn\'t
become what it is.

 

[bitrex]

On 11/3/2020 12:26 PM, Ed Lee wrote:

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 9:13:57 AM UTC-8, bitrex wrote:
On 11/3/2020 3:34 AM, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win

Strolchi grinst gelassen bis zum Uberdruss, Susi gibt Strolchi einen
Zungenkuss, Westi quatscht reaktionären Stuss, und Hilmar übt den
Hitlergruss, da bellt der Jörgl laut: \"BEI FUSS!\"

Google translate said:

Strolchi grins calmly ad nauseam, Susi gives Strolchi one French kiss, Westi chats reactionary nudge, and Hilmar practices it Hitler salute, Jörgl barks loudly: \"BEI FUSS!\"

What does that really mean?

<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aB97x46z1Qc>

Your guess is as good as mine

 

[Rickster C]

On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 12:18:54 PM UTC-5, Dean Hoffman wrote:

On 11/3/20 10:35 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 17:21, Rickster C wrote:
On Tuesday, November 3, 2020 at 10:10:11 AM UTC-5, John S wrote:
On 11/3/2020 6:52 AM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 11/3/20 6:32 AM, David Brown wrote:
On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and
that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent y May the
best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country - let\'s hope
that the person most people vote for, wins the election. And
let\'s hope that the winner of the election gets to be the next
president.

In other democracies, we take these for granted - but not in
the USA.

The United States isn\'t a democracy.
https://www.heritage.org/american-founders/report/america-republic-not-democracy


Search \"Is the United States a democracy?\" if you don\'t care for
this source.


Is the US a democracy or a republic? It is both a democracy and a
republic. A democracy because the people hold the ultimate power. A
republic because it is ruled by the law and is not a tyranny and
monarchy.

It is best described as a democratic republic.

No, the \"people\" do not hold the ultimate power. One of the wisest
quotes ever was Chairman Mao saying, \"Political power grows out of
the barrel of a gun.\" The \"people\" have pea shooters while the
government has real weapons and is willing to use them.

Well, it is /intended/ that the \"people\" have the ultimate power.


We have had two recent examples of the \"will of the people\" being
ignored when the government blindly followed the Constitution rather
than the will of the people, in one case involving the Supreme Court.
While the letter of the law was followed, the will of the people was
not. So clearly the \"people\" do not have \"ultimate power\". The
government does.


It is /intended/ that the government is empowered by the will of the
people - that\'s the idea of a democracy. The practice is not always
that good. (And the USA fails many of the checkboxes of a good
democracy, such as fair voting, with all eligible voters having the same
weighting as practically possible.)

That could be helped with a change in the Electoral College by
your state
officials. Maine and Nebraska make it possible for there to be a split in
the Elector\'s vote.
I\'ll write about Nebraska. It has three Congressional districts so
it has
a total of five Electoral College votes. The winner of each Congressional
district gets a vote. The winner of the total state vote gets the two
Electoral
College votes representing the Senators. It\'s possible for the vote to be
split.
There would still be a firewall in case the national vote is really
close.
It wouldn\'t be necessary for the whole country to do a recount if there\'s
some sort of dispute in one state.

It would \"reduce\" the impact of the uneven handedness of the electoral college, not eliminate it. But it does nothing to deal with the truly scary prospects of the election ending up in the hands of congress. With the way the parties currently are willing to tear this country apart to advance their own interests there would be nothing at all reasonable or fair about Congress being involved in any way with the election.

There is no reason why the electoral college is needed. It is an anachronism that has long since outlasted its purpose. TIME TO GO!

--

Rick C.

+ Get 1,000 miles of free Supercharging
+ Tesla referral code - https://ts.la/richard11209

 

[Joe Gwinn]

On Tue, 03 Nov 2020 07:57:43 -0800, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com
wrote:

On Tue, 3 Nov 2020 13:32:44 +0100, David Brown
david.brown@hesbynett.no> wrote:

On 03/11/2020 09:34, Klaus Kragelund wrote:
Hi

An exiting day for the US. Hope you have a great day, and that the election aftermath won\'t turn out violent

May the best old man win


The USA is supposed to be a democratic country -

The Constitution defines what it is. Any terms you use are your
opinion and have no force in law.

Yes.

My definition of a democracy is operational:

A country is democratic if the people can dismiss and replace the
curent government without needing to wage war.

Joe Gwinn