Ground is no longer at ground potential

Guest
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

Due to changes in the earth's structure, caused by both natural causes,
such as shifting of the earth's plates, and man made deviations of the
earth caused by excessive pumping of oil, over use of electronic
devices, and the use of nuclear reactors. The earth has changed in
structure, and is affecting all of us.

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

Scientists have been investigating this for years, and have noticed a
slight upward drift of positive voltage increasing every year. The U.S.
government is finally taking action, and other world governments are now
considering taking action to bring "ground" back to TRUE ground
potential.

To achive true ground, heavy copper rods must be driven deeply into the
earth's core, but must be insulated from the top 600 feet of soil and
rock. This ground potential must then be "piped" to homes and businesses
all around the country and abroad. This is a very costly procedure, and
in order to bring all of our structures as well as out electronics back
to "true ground potential", everyone must connect all electrical systems
to these "master grounds", which will be placed at approximately 100
locations around the U.S. (presently two in each State). These grounds
will then be wired into our homes and businesses through an extensive
grid of heavy gauge wires. Every community will be responsible to
distribute this ground to individual structures.

Because of the high costs involved, every American will be billed for
this service, which will soon be mandatory according to the "National
Electric Code". This bill must be paid monthly, just like any other
utility bill, and will be based on usage. Thus, the more electrical and
electronic devices you have, the more you will pay. Your usage will be
determined by using a "ground meter", not unlike your home's electrical
meter.

It's been planned that by the year 2020, every structure in the U.S.
will be connected, and will bring us back to true ground potential.
However, other countries must also establish a similar system, or else
there may be extensive corrosive reaction of lands not connected, which
will occur where the salt water of oceans is at a different ground
potential. With an unbalanced ground, the salt water in the oceans may
become like giant batteries and thus will eat away at shoreline land and
could even cause massive boils, as the ocean waters begin to boil from
the heat caused at the center of the oceans, which will also cause
massive kills of fish and other ocean life.

Therefore, all continents on earth must cooperate and establish systems
which will bring the entire planet's electrical systems back to true
ground potential. This must be enacted immediately, or in less than one
half of a century all living creatures on earth will become so
electrically charged that we will all face death due to electrical
imbalances in our bodies whenever we have any direct contact with the
earth.

Act now, encourage your local and national governments to take immediate
action to design and built the systems needed to solve this most
critical problem. If we do nothing, it will only be a few decades before
human and animal lives are severely affected, and our present
electronics and electrical systems will all fail.


Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal
 
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal
This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
 
On 04/01/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

The only logical solution is to cover the entire country in
nickel-plated linoleum tile to protect us. We'll call it a "floor."

It won't cost taxpayers a dime - we'll send Gaia a bill for it.
 
["Followup-To:" header set to sci.electronics.repair.]
oldschool@tubes.com <oldschool@tubes.com> wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

2017-04-01
 
On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed in a
conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.
 
In article <obofr4$ct6$1@dont-email.me>, tombiasi@optonline.net says...
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Referenced to April 1.
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed in a
conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit negative.
Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html


--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics
 
On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
In article <TtqdndisPIn-T0LFnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net says...
The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

If earth has a net charge, it is probably not many volts. Aren't
cosmic rays almost all positive?

Most of the earth's surface is conductive, but dry sand might be a
good enough insulator to have local surface potentials. Sounds like a
good science project. Maybe make a drone that could scan a region and
map gradients.





--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

lunatic fringe electronics
 
On 04/01/2017 12:24 PM, MJC wrote:
In article <TtqdndisPIn-T0LFnZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net says...

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.

What do you think causes Coronal Mass Ejections? (Whether premature or
not...)

Mike.

Because the body of the Sun is a good conductor, the magnetic field gets
frozen in--it can change only by diffusion, which is very slow on long
length scales. (It slows down quadratically with distance.)

The Sun also doesn't rotate like a rigid body--the equator rotates
faster than the poles, which kinks up the field. That does work on the
magnetic field, just the way an electric generator works. The resulting
local increases in B eventually causes the magnetic force to overcome
gravity in "reconnection events" where the kinks unkink themselves by
tossing huge chunks of solar material into space.

It's sort of a magnetic version of a watch spring buckling sideways when
you tighten it past a certain point with the cover off.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On 04/01/2017 12:30 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.



Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

The self-capacitance of the Sun isn't very large--its radius is about
700,000 km. The Gaussian unit of capacitance is the centimetre (which
is close to a picofarad), and the self-capacitance of a sphere equals
its radius in centimetres.

Thus the capacitance of the Sun is about 7E10 cm, or 0.08 F.

Wiki says that the number of particles ejected by the Sun is about
1.3E36 per second, which is about 2E17 coulombs/s, counting both
positive and negative, and ignoring alpha particles having a charge of +2.

The maximum energy of the ejected particles is around 10 keV, so if the
Sun's voltage with respect to the rest of the universe reached +- 10 kV,
one sign of free particle would be unable to escape.

With 10**17 amps worth of the other polarity continuing to stream out,
and only 80 mF of capacitance, this would be corrected in about 10**-18
seconds. ;)

If earth has a net charge, it is probably not many volts. Aren't
cosmic rays almost all positive?

I don't know about the ones outside the atmosphere. The positive ones
are much more massive than electrons, and so have more momentum per unit
energy, which helps them penetrate the atmosphere.

Most of the earth's surface is conductive, but dry sand might be a
good enough insulator to have local surface potentials. Sounds like a
good science project. Maybe make a drone that could scan a region and
map gradients.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs


--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On 04/01/2017 12:52 PM, Phil Hobbs wrote:
On 04/01/2017 12:30 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 12:16:35 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 12:11 PM, John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 11:22:41 -0400, Phil Hobbs
pcdhSpamMeSenseless@electrooptical.net> wrote:

On 04/01/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs. The earth now has an 8
volt potential in reference to what?

I think one of Feynman's lectures asks about what the electrostatic
potential of the Earth is.

The answer is that it's close to zero, since the Earth is immersed
in a conducting medium (the solar wind).

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

Is the solar wind neutral? Spacecraft typically charge a bit
negative. Seems to me that the sun could be a giant thermionic
cathode.

The electric field near the ground is big, around 150 volts/meter,
positive going up.

http://www.feynmanlectures.caltech.edu/II_09.html

Yup--thunderstorms pump charge in that direction, but once you get to
the top of the atmosphere the net enclosed charge is near zero.

The solar wind has to be neutral on average, because otherwise the
voltage on the Sun would increase indefinitely.



Over tens of billions of years average. Maybe all those electrons will
gradually return when the sun cools off.

The self-capacitance of the Sun isn't very large--its radius is about
700,000 km. The Gaussian unit of capacitance is the centimetre (which
is close to a picofarad), and the self-capacitance of a sphere equals
its radius in centimetres.

Thus the capacitance of the Sun is about 7E10 cm, or 0.08 F.

Wiki says that the number of particles ejected by the Sun is about
1.3E36 per second, which is about 2E17 coulombs/s, counting both
positive and negative, and ignoring alpha particles having a charge of +2.

The maximum energy of the ejected particles is around 10 keV, so if the
Sun's voltage with respect to the rest of the universe reached +- 10 kV,
one sign of free particle would be unable to escape.

With 10**17 amps worth of the other polarity continuing to stream out,
and only 80 mF of capacitance, this would be corrected in about 10**-18
seconds. ;)

Whoops, 10**-14 seconds. Much gentler. ;)

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics

160 North State Road #203
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510

hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
 
On 04/01/2017 11:23 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.

OWNED!!!!11111
 
On 01.04.17 16:32, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
cut

Happy first of April.
 
On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John
 
On Sat, 01 Apr 2017 09:32:23 -0500, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:

Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
It dont matter if you're referring to the ground for your home's
electrical system, or the chassis ground in an electronic device.

Due to changes in the earth's structure, caused by both natural causes,
such as shifting of the earth's plates, and man made deviations of the
earth caused by excessive pumping of oil, over use of electronic
devices, and the use of nuclear reactors. The earth has changed in
structure, and is affecting all of us.

Because of this, a Ground is no longer "TRUE GROUND". Anything and
everything that is grounded is now roughly at positive 8.243 volts.
Thus, everything which is grounded is really not grounded, and living
creatures are now all exposed to this roughly +8 volt potential. This
may not seem like much, but it accumulates over time, affecting the
moods and bodily functions of all living things. Over time it causes
illness, mental disturbances, and possibly even cancer and heart
disease.

Scientists have been investigating this for years, and have noticed a
slight upward drift of positive voltage increasing every year. The U.S.
government is finally taking action, and other world governments are now
considering taking action to bring "ground" back to TRUE ground
potential.

To achive true ground, heavy copper rods must be driven deeply into the
earth's core, but must be insulated from the top 600 feet of soil and
rock. This ground potential must then be "piped" to homes and businesses
all around the country and abroad. This is a very costly procedure, and
in order to bring all of our structures as well as out electronics back
to "true ground potential", everyone must connect all electrical systems
to these "master grounds", which will be placed at approximately 100
locations around the U.S. (presently two in each State). These grounds
will then be wired into our homes and businesses through an extensive
grid of heavy gauge wires. Every community will be responsible to
distribute this ground to individual structures.

Because of the high costs involved, every American will be billed for
this service, which will soon be mandatory according to the "National
Electric Code". This bill must be paid monthly, just like any other
utility bill, and will be based on usage. Thus, the more electrical and
electronic devices you have, the more you will pay. Your usage will be
determined by using a "ground meter", not unlike your home's electrical
meter.

It's been planned that by the year 2020, every structure in the U.S.
will be connected, and will bring us back to true ground potential.
However, other countries must also establish a similar system, or else
there may be extensive corrosive reaction of lands not connected, which
will occur where the salt water of oceans is at a different ground
potential. With an unbalanced ground, the salt water in the oceans may
become like giant batteries and thus will eat away at shoreline land and
could even cause massive boils, as the ocean waters begin to boil from
the heat caused at the center of the oceans, which will also cause
massive kills of fish and other ocean life.

Therefore, all continents on earth must cooperate and establish systems
which will bring the entire planet's electrical systems back to true
ground potential. This must be enacted immediately, or in less than one
half of a century all living creatures on earth will become so
electrically charged that we will all face death due to electrical
imbalances in our bodies whenever we have any direct contact with the
earth.

Act now, encourage your local and national governments to take immediate
action to design and built the systems needed to solve this most
critical problem. If we do nothing, it will only be a few decades before
human and animal lives are severely affected, and our present
electronics and electrical systems will all fail.


Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

OMG! That's worse than global warming!
 
On 4/1/2017 1:08 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 04/01/2017 11:23 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 11:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground
potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?
My apologies, I forgot today's date.

OWNED!!!!11111
Yep
 
On Sat, 1 Apr 2017 10:51:42 -0700, John Robertson <spam@flippers.com>
wrote:

On 2017/04/01 8:12 AM, Tom Biasi wrote:
On 4/1/2017 10:32 AM, oldschool@tubes.com wrote:
Scientists have determined that ground is no longer at ground potential.
snip a bunch of junk
Reprinted from: The Electro Scientific Journal

This is what happens from abuse of drugs.
The earth now has an 8 volt potential in reference to what?

Have you checked today's date?

John

April 1 is my favorite holiday. It's all about having fun. You dont have
to dress up or impress anyone, you dont have to buy gifts, decorate or
cook fancy meals, you doint have to go to church, or wave a flag, and
it's the only day of the year when you can say stupid shit and act
really goofy and get away with it.....

Of course this article about Electrical Grounds, 'could' be true..... I
wont make any comments about it till April 2.

Happy April Fools Day!


By the way, wanna get your spouse or a friend?
Remove the aerator from a faucet, put some saran wrap over the faucet,
then put the aerator back on. Then wrap one prong on every plug in the
house with scotch tape, and dont forget my favorite. Put a screw in
adaptor from light socket to outlet in place of the refrigerator light
bulb. Then plug a radio into it and turn the volume up loud. !!! Then
tell your spouse, friend, or parents to get you a cold beer or soda!!!
 

Welcome to EDABoard.com

Sponsor

Back
Top