Good books on SMPS design?

[Terry Given]

"Winfield Hill" <Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com...

Ben Bradley wrote...

I looked up Pressman's book (type Pressman for author, and switching
for title) in these two sites - it's not cheap but there are a few used
copies under $50: http://www.bookfinder.com http://used.addall.com

Since Win recommends it, you should go right out and buy it.

Pressman's recent edition is larger and of course much more expensive,
but used copies of the earlier edition are available for about $50, as
Ben says. In it he covers a wide range of converter topologies; it's
fine for a beginner. As for an advanced SMPS designer, even his new
expanded edition leaves one dissatisfied for more detail, although it
does command a place on the bookshelf. If Pressman's book is a guide
to appropriate technology; the manufacturer's datasheets and app notes
are guides to specific designs.

But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare. Those
deprived of a copy of Snelling's book will find excellent material deep
in the recesses of TI's website, where the old Unitrode lecture-series
material resides.

my copy cost me NZ$400, and was worth every penny. I have yet to find a
second hand copy anywhere.

Incidentally, two other really good references for magnetics:

Electromagnetic Devices, H.C. Roters, John Wiley & Sons, 1941 (1961 8th
reprint)

Magnetic Amplifiers, H. Storm, John Wiley & Sons, 1955

these two are great. I have 20-30 others, but not so good, although
Ferromagnetism, R. Bozorth, IEEE press reprint is awesome for steel

The phrase "MAGNETICS DESIGN HANDBOOK" is worth seeking out. I found
the writings of Lloyd H. Dixon especially useful, but there were other
good contributors to the series. There's altogether about 80MB of
material to download, unpack, and organize. Afterwhich the intense
studying can commence. :&gt

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

For a while Unitrode was publishing the unitrode magnetics design handbook
(i have one), containing most of Lloyd H. Dixons stuff.

I have a couple of books by McLyman, but they are very much cook-books, and
as such dont provide much theoretical background, but the Kg method really
does work.

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Wed, 17 Mar 2004:

But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare.


Has that ever been reprinted? It went out of print many years ago, while

there was an *increasing* demand for the knowledge it contains!

Publishers, BAH!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Terry Given]

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:G6R0oDELAZWAFwZr@jmwa.demon.co.uk...

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Wed, 17 Mar 2004:
But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare.


Has that ever been reprinted? It went out of print many years ago, while
there was an *increasing* demand for the knowledge it contains!

Publishers, BAH!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk\

I have a hard copy of the 2nd edition published 1988, ISBN 0-408-02760-6

If it really is out of print, then I can mention that I have most of it
scanned; if not, I wont

 

[Chaos Master]

No B.O. número <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com>, de 17 Mar 2004 19:13:56 -0800,
consta que Winfield Hill escreveu no sci.electronics.design :

Pressman's recent edition is larger and of course much more expensive,
but used copies of the earlier edition are available for about $50, as
Ben says. In it he covers a wide range of converter topologies; it's
fine for a beginner. As for an advanced SMPS designer, even his new
expanded edition leaves one dissatisfied for more detail, although it
does command a place on the bookshelf. If Pressman's book is a guide
to appropriate technology; the manufacturer's datasheets and app notes
are guides to specific designs.

This seems good. When I read an app note, I almost "get lost" on the details. I
will take a look at those book suggestions!

The phrase "MAGNETICS DESIGN HANDBOOK" is worth seeking out. I found
the writings of Lloyd H. Dixon especially useful, but there were other
good contributors to the series. There's altogether about 80MB of
material to download, unpack, and organize. Afterwhich the intense
studying can commence. :&gt

80MB? I don't have that much time to read nor to download it (over a dialf***,
er... dialup connection), but I will look for this.

Thanks all that helped. I hope to start learning SMPS design soon!

--
Chaos MasterŽ - Porto Alegre, RS, Brazil
irc.brasnet.org - #xlinuxnews and #poa
NP: blink 182 - Feeling This.mp3

 

[Paul Mathews]

Yes, the Snelling book is out of print, and I've had a search on for a
used copy at Amazon and Powell's books for over 2 years without
success. I am very interested in a scanned copy.
Paul Mathews


"Terry Given" <the_domes@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:<gvi6c.8997$rw6.178950@news.xtra.co.nz>...

"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:G6R0oDELAZWAFwZr@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Wed, 17 Mar 2004:
But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare.


Has that ever been reprinted? It went out of print many years ago, while
there was an *increasing* demand for the knowledge it contains!

Publishers, BAH!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk\

I have a hard copy of the 2nd edition published 1988, ISBN 0-408-02760-6

If it really is out of print, then I can mention that I have most of it
scanned; if not, I wont

 

[Ben Bradley]

In sci.electronics.design, optoeng@pioneernet.net (Paul Mathews)
wrote:

Yes, the Snelling book is out of print, and I've had a search on for a
used copy at Amazon and Powell's books for over 2 years without
success. I am very interested in a scanned copy.

I just looked on bookfinder.com (enter Snelling for author, and
Ferrites for title) and see a few copies. Looks like there's only two
or three copies, different editions at various prices, all from one
seller (or some of these might be listings of already-sold copies).
Here's the seller's website, I typed Ferrites in the search box,
there are first and second editions of Snelling available (along with
a dozen titles from other authors):
http://www.zubalbooks.com

IANAL, but just for the record (and just to state my understanding
of coptright law - if for some reason this is actually important to
you, consult a Real Attorney, bla bla bla), as long as a book is not
so old as to be in the public domain (which ISTR in the USA would be
about 1925), it's technically illegal to make a copy and distribute it
(whether sold or given away) without the copyright holder's
permission, regardless of whether it's out of print, it's the only
copy in existence, or what.

Paul Mathews


"Terry Given" <the_domes@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:<gvi6c.8997$rw6.178950@news.xtra.co.nz>...
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:G6R0oDELAZWAFwZr@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Wed, 17 Mar 2004:
But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare.


Has that ever been reprinted? It went out of print many years ago, while
there was an *increasing* demand for the knowledge it contains!

Publishers, BAH!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk\

I have a hard copy of the 2nd edition published 1988, ISBN 0-408-02760-6

If it really is out of print, then I can mention that I have most of it
scanned; if not, I wont

-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

 

[Terry Given]

"Ben Bradley" <ben_nospam_bradley@mindspring.example.com> wrote in message
newsnem505e89e2jmgkkgpc2lu6im3kbej0kv@4ax.com...

In sci.electronics.design, optoeng@pioneernet.net (Paul Mathews)
wrote:

Yes, the Snelling book is out of print, and I've had a search on for a
used copy at Amazon and Powell's books for over 2 years without
success. I am very interested in a scanned copy.

I just looked on bookfinder.com (enter Snelling for author, and
Ferrites for title) and see a few copies. Looks like there's only two
or three copies, different editions at various prices, all from one
seller (or some of these might be listings of already-sold copies).
Here's the seller's website, I typed Ferrites in the search box,
there are first and second editions of Snelling available (along with
a dozen titles from other authors):
http://www.zubalbooks.com

IANAL, but just for the record (and just to state my understanding
of coptright law - if for some reason this is actually important to
you, consult a Real Attorney, bla bla bla), as long as a book is not
so old as to be in the public domain (which ISTR in the USA would be
about 1925), it's technically illegal to make a copy and distribute it
(whether sold or given away) without the copyright holder's
permission, regardless of whether it's out of print, it's the only
copy in existence, or what.

thats pretty much what I thought

 

[Winfield Hill]

Chaos Master, slakker-at-brasnet-dot-org wrote...

No B.O. número <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com>, de 17 Mar 2004,
consta que Winfield Hill escreveu no sci.electronics.design:

The phrase "MAGNETICS DESIGN HANDBOOK" is worth seeking out. I found
the writings of Lloyd H. Dixon especially useful, but there were other
good contributors to the series. There's altogether about 80MB of
material to download, unpack, and organize. Afterwhich the intense
studying can commence. :&gt

80MB? I don't have that much time to read nor to download it (over
a dialf***, er... dialup connection), but I will look for this.

Thanks all that helped. I hope to start learning SMPS design soon!

OK, Chaos MasterŽ, that should keep you busy for a while. We'll expect
to see you here again on s.e.d. in about six months. :&gt

Thanks,
- Win

whill_at_picovolt-dot-com

 

[John Woodgate]

I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
<Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3hdae02pav@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Sat, 20 Mar 2004:

OK, Chaos MasterŽ, that should keep you busy for a while. We'll expect
to see you here again on s.e.d. in about six months. :&gt

Indeed; that's why I find it incredible that people tell obvious newbie
or unskilled OPs to 'use a switcher'.
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk

 

[Paul Mathews]

I was thrilled to find the copies of Snelling, but I'll have to pass
on those prices: $300 for an 'ex-library' copy in good condition!
Paul Mathews

Ben Bradley <ben_nospam_bradley@mindspring.example.com> wrote in message news:<pnem505e89e2jmgkkgpc2lu6im3kbej0kv@4ax.com>...

In sci.electronics.design, optoeng@pioneernet.net (Paul Mathews)
wrote:

Yes, the Snelling book is out of print, and I've had a search on for a
used copy at Amazon and Powell's books for over 2 years without
success. I am very interested in a scanned copy.

I just looked on bookfinder.com (enter Snelling for author, and
Ferrites for title) and see a few copies. Looks like there's only two
or three copies, different editions at various prices, all from one
seller (or some of these might be listings of already-sold copies).
Here's the seller's website, I typed Ferrites in the search box,
there are first and second editions of Snelling available (along with
a dozen titles from other authors):
http://www.zubalbooks.com

IANAL, but just for the record (and just to state my understanding
of coptright law - if for some reason this is actually important to
you, consult a Real Attorney, bla bla bla), as long as a book is not
so old as to be in the public domain (which ISTR in the USA would be
about 1925), it's technically illegal to make a copy and distribute it
(whether sold or given away) without the copyright holder's
permission, regardless of whether it's out of print, it's the only
copy in existence, or what.

Paul Mathews


"Terry Given" <the_domes@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message news:<gvi6c.8997$rw6.178950@news.xtra.co.nz>...
"John Woodgate" <jmw@jmwa.demon.contraspam.yuk> wrote in message
news:G6R0oDELAZWAFwZr@jmwa.demon.co.uk...
I read in sci.electronics.design that Winfield Hill
Winfield_member@newsguy.com> wrote (in <c3b45k01usu@drn.newsguy.com&gt
about 'Good books on SMPS design?', on Wed, 17 Mar 2004:
But this still leaves open the issue of magnetics design, an important
but somewhat advanced topic. Here I recommend E. C. Snelling's book on
the properties of Soft Ferrites, admittedly a more exotic fare.


Has that ever been reprinted? It went out of print many years ago, while
there was an *increasing* demand for the knowledge it contains!

Publishers, BAH!
--
Regards, John Woodgate, OOO - Own Opinions Only.
The good news is that nothing is compulsory.
The bad news is that everything is prohibited.
http://www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Also see http://www.isce.org.uk\

I have a hard copy of the 2nd edition published 1988, ISBN 0-408-02760-6

If it really is out of print, then I can mention that I have most of it
scanned; if not, I wont

-----
http://mindspring.com/~benbradley

 

[Terry Given]

"Paul Mathews" <optoeng@pioneernet.net> wrote in message
news:ed443a10.0403221311.3365b7d1@posting.google.com...

I was thrilled to find the copies of Snelling, but I'll have to pass
on those prices: $300 for an 'ex-library' copy in good condition!
Paul Mathews

I had the good fortune many years ago to negotiate a deal with my employer,
whereby I got to keep any eng books I purchased ($1k/year limit) if they
lived at work. They paid $400 for snelling, thank you very much. How you
might ask? well, limited budget for salary increases, but budget to buy
library books, means room for negotiation at salary review times *grin*

 

[Rich Grise]

"Active8" <reply2group@ndbbm.net> wrote in message >

Poring - Hunting for pores.

Poring - equipping with microscopic apertures

Pooring - moving to a position of lesser financial security
Poe ring - a group of mystery story aficionadi
po' ring - destitute wrestling arena