Getting slower with age

[TheTick]

No spell check on google, where i access this ssite. plus typing wit
baby on my knee one hnddred.

i hope poor grammar andspelling errorrsannoy you.

"Brian Spillane" <bspilaneremovespam@ptd.net> wrote in message news:<_KmcnXP2Oqao4U6iXTWc9g@ptd.net>...

I bet in 17 years he at the very least learned the value of SPELL -CHECK!
Happy Holidays all!

"TheTick" <rol3@liquidschwarz.com> wrote in message
news:2e958085.0312070557.75cc3bf3@posting.google.com...
What have you dobe in 17 years to make yourself a better engineer,
designer or detailer? No AA or BSME yet?

"Kman" <kengineering@peoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:<vt4gqf86cadoa5@corp.supernews.com>...
CAD doesn't make the engineer, designer or detailer. It is a tool and
works
best in the hands of an experienced individual.

Kman


"JNJ Eaton, Sr." <jnjeaton@txucom.net> wrote in message
news:3fd2045c$1@katy-news.txucom.net...
I have used Autocad as a design tool for 17 years in numerous
disciplines.
Last couple of years I seem to be getting slower at drawing. It could
be
that today's engineers put more design responsibilities onto the
designer/drafter.
I'm just 44 and will need to be employable till I die most likely.
I am a heavy icon user instead to 2 finger commands??????
Perfectionist, thinker and very critical of my work ??????
I also use Microstation, PDS and trying to learn Solidworks to stay
employable.
I have to increase my speed to keep up with the newbies that learned
CAD a
different way than we did 17 years ago. I keep abreast as much as
possible
on the new stuff, but still seem to hang onto the way I have always
done
it.
Please don't misunderstand this plea for help I am still pretty damn
good
and make into the high 30's an hour With layoffs and all I have to
keep
proving myself wherever I go........
Anyone have any constructive assistance????
~Texascadman~

 

[AHA]

"Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio" <gcdbX@libero.it> schreef in bericht
news:br0b16$274i1a$1@ID-121762.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > When I charge 50 Euro, at the end of the year having paid taxes, social
| security
| > etc. it ends up being 16 Euro for me ...
|
| What country do you live, and how much do you earn? I think that you're
| exagerating a tiny little bit... not even in Sweden you have such a high
| taxation... care to share?
|
| --
| Pepe
| Milano, Italy
|

Living in Belgium, and yes, we're at the top when taxation is concerned. Don't
remember the exact figures but recently a comparison was made between countries
and it was "visualised" by pretending that you started working the 1st of
january to pay everything you need to pay and then determining at what date
during the year you started working "for yourself". An average Belgian was way
past summer holidays before he had one Euro for himself.

The other thing that has to be said of course is that you get things in return.
Lots of infrastructure, a reasonable pension when you retire, falling ill
doesn't kick you into poverty, ... . But still, each year when I have to fill in
the tax bill and you're forced to make the final count, I'm have to get through
a small depression.

Alex

 

[Giuseppe Carmine De Blasi]

The other thing that has to be said of course is that you get things in
return.
Lots of infrastructure, a reasonable pension when you retire, falling ill
doesn't kick you into poverty, ... .
In Italy is just NOT like that. He if you're poor, poor you stay, and can

only get poorer. And I'm not exagerating, mind you... poverty and misery in
Italy have to be visible, as the church uses guilt to make you give'em
money, money that never ever reach the ones they need it most. The church
uses the money to build more and more organisations to help the needy, but
fail to do just that. More infraestructures, more administration, more
buildings... to justify that they're doing that, they need more poverty...
it's a very simple business model, and everybody's falling for it. The
actual work that gets ever done is done by the volontary, so they have
(almost) no cost...

But still, each year when I have to fill in
the tax bill and you're forced to make the final count, I'm have to get
through
a small depression.

I get a depression everytime I think where I live, how much it costs me to
live badly and that I'm in no way can change any of that; being basically
screwed because I'm too old (I'm 45) to start over in another country, and
too old to get another job in this country if I lose mine. No financial help
from the government, no affordable housing; if you don't have a family that
can support you financially or/and housing, you just have to live in the
street. This is the reality of an european country member of the G8 elite...
elite my ass!

I'd be delighted to pay taxes, if I at least get something in return... I
pay less taxes than you, but the only thing I got in return is the middle
finger!

Consider yourself lucky, even privilegiated! It's much better get the 90% of
something than the 100% of nothing.

Pepe
Milano, Italy

 

[SelectroM]

"Giuseppe Carmine De Blasio" <gcdbX@libero.it> wrote in
news:br2p9f$27lmm7$1@ID-121762.news.uni-berlin.de...

I get a depression everytime I think where I live, how much it costs me to
live badly and that I'm in no way can change any of that; being basically
screwed because I'm too old (I'm 45) to start over in another country, and
too old to get another job in this country if I lose mine. No financial
help
from the government, no affordable housing;...

No expenses when you are hospitalized; no expenses for house doctors; very
small, symbolic ticket when you buy medicines; small dental expenses when
compared with other countries; no school tax practically all the way through
university; normally 13 or 14 paychecks/year; a total of full paid one
month free time from work each year since the first year you are hired; one
month pay for every year you worked for a company when you live the company;
free meals at noon if you are employed full time; guarantee that your
employer cannot fire you; social "equo canone" house rent; tax deductible
interest on house loans; freedom to go to catholic church, any christian
church, synagogue or mosque whenever you wish; freedom to wear whatever your
religion requires from you, from a clergy to a burka; freedom to speak
against your employer, government or anybody you wish; freedom to vote for
the people you wish; freedom to emigrate whenever you think it is convenient
for you, especially if staying depresses you so much...

Marco S.

 

[AHA]

You're talking about the same country ???

Alex

 

[Giuseppe Carmine De Blasi]

You're talking about the same country ???

Same country, different times... he's talking about how things were once, or
still are for him if he got a fixed position job before 1997.

After the first work market reform and specially NOW, after the last reform;
and that's what I'm talking about...NOW, after the new, "flexible" work
market. No job security... no, make that no security for anything, no
ellegibility for a bank loan or for renting a flat, (even though it'll mean
50-75% of your wage), no paid sick days, the doctor costs little by itself,
but the day off to visit him is NO PAID, no unemployment money; it's the
wild west out here.

Personnel is considered an unnecessary expense, not an asset; and it's
treated accordingly. Just wait that the reform law get accepted to be used
with the Public Administration as well; hell will certainly break loose;
it's just a matter of time until everybody will cry wolf 'round here...

But it's just normal that italians don't have a clue of what's happening
around'em if not directly affected... their minds are too occupied with
stupid TV programs, football soccer and inexisting sex adventures...

But as long as they believe that Italy means Ferrari, Armani and
Dolce&Gabbana, nothing will ever happen.

--
Pepe
Milano, Italy

 

[Bill Dickens]

At the age of 65, I read this morning that the average salary of a
teacher in the Detroit Public Schools (a huge system) is $62,992.
Compare this with $52,523 for the 98-99 school year. Having a
master's degree, of course, boosts the salary considerably. Mimimum
wage for a principal is $100,000.

A two teacher household makes life livable, especially with the 3
month vacation in the summer.

Now if your project the wage curves you get something very
interesting.

It becomes even more interesting when you mention to a grade school
math teacher that she should be grilling the students on their math
facts and the reply is, "Oh no, that is YOUR responsibility, we teach
the students how to think... The Business world has spoken and that's
what they want.

Lorys is correct, CAD made drawing enjoyable just as electronic
calculators (HP41CV) made calculations fun.

But we all missed the boat.

Bill

 

[Tahimik]

Thank you, thank you all you guys. This confirmed what all I am
telling to wife that cadd person knowledge grow richer with age. I
will be employable pass my retirement age. I always point out to my
wife (who is a doctor) that Jarod of of TV series pretender can not
impersonate cadd person. No way he can learn all those things by just
reading overnight. To be a seasoned cadd person you have to accumulate
years of hard labour, you learn new everyday and kept your own library
of tools.

 

[Lorys]

I agree with all the posts
I'm 48 years old an I am unashamedly passionate about microstation..
I hated drawing board drafting at College and nearly failed.. I didn't start
CAD or even manual drafting at all until 3 years after I graduated at 40...
I started doing mech design drafting for the Dept of Transport drawing train
details and part lists and assemblies under an old hand at Acad but I had
to use microstation...it was the job criteria on the promotion from no
College qual required Laboratory Tech to Draftsman Technical officer (
College quals required)..
I did a 3 day coarse bought a book " inside microstation"... later
discovered the Internet and Bentley SELECT and became very proficient at
microstation including installing it and modifying printer drivers for
better line work resolution etc..ucms, third party mdls, utilities and
basic macro's etc
I became a defacto cad administrator because all of a sudden ( 2 years
later) I knew more than the pimply faced kid who didn't know cad but only
how to install it on the network.. he'd never done a drawing in his life!
in the DOT I got loads of experience with detail mechanical, piping and
electrical drawing as well...
I also had army reserve experience in reading and using topographical
maps..
After I left the DOT (forced privatisation of government utilities).. I
found work contract drafting in both Acad and microstation but only in Civil
work doing mapping.. (fooled them with army experience)..
where again I had to more learning..
cartographic projections.. MapInfo GIS, access and oracle SQL... but in my
own time...
And through the Internet Ng's & ControlAlt Delete magazine helped my keep
up with the youngsters...
and dare I say ahead of them. on most occasions.
I have had to learn to be highly organised.. paper trails for every drawing
using excel and hyperlinks..
print out sections of Help and read the paper manuals!
Cells and reference files tons of freebee macro's from all the helpful
people here in these Ng's until I was making my own to automate work and
avoid silly errors..
again I keep documentation on file to help me as I forget stuff easily now
days..as I'm getting on .. and oh those wonderfully configurable Function
keys..
At one time I had 4 different function key menus for different kinds of
work.. so I made overlays for them just to keep track..
So take heart be encouraged and for your own sake customise as much as
possible ..
Oh and really learn accudraw.. it can if used wisely it will speed you up by
saving steps...
Remember skill is nothing without the benefit of knowledge gained through
experience..and knowledge without experience can never become wisdom.
Working smarter will always save your employer more money than working
faster.
God Bless you all.
Lorys in Australia

"Jeff Finlayson" <finlayson@hiwaay.not> wrote in message
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"JNJ Eaton, Sr." <jnjeaton@txucom.net> wrote:

I have used Autocad as a design tool for 17 years in numerous
disciplines.
Last couple of years I seem to be getting slower at drawing. It could be
that today's engineers put more design responsibilities onto the
designer/drafter.
I'm just 44 and will need to be employable till I die most likely.
I am a heavy icon user instead to 2 finger commands??????
Perfectionist, thinker and very critical of my work ??????
I also use Microstation, PDS and trying to learn Solidworks to stay
employable.
I have to increase my speed to keep up with the newbies that learned CAD
a
different way than we did 17 years ago. I keep abreast as much as
possible
on the new stuff, but still seem to hang onto the way I have always done
it.
Please don't misunderstand this plea for help I am still pretty damn
good
and make into the high 30's an hour With layoffs and all I have to keep
proving myself wherever I go........
Anyone have any constructive assistance????
~Texascadman~

Take training classes periodically. Find the quickest way to do a task,
even
if it means learning a new way to do it. Basically try to work smarter.

Best of luck.