Get rid of your television

[Tom Gardner]

On 10/09/19 16:27, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

The consistently excellent Radio 4 programme "More or Less"
examines all sorts of claims where the proper application
of statistics will illuminate the extent to which the claim
is and is not valid.

Hence, "A listener to Radio 4’s More or Less (Friday 4:30pm)
recently (2012) wrote to the programme asking whether the murder
rate in Midsomer Murders was out of the ordinary."

The answer(s) were entertaining, and included comparisons
with the real world.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-08-03/from-midsomer-to-cabot-cove-tvs-murder-capitals/

No, I'm not going to spoil the numbers by summarising
them poorly

 

[John Larkin]

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:35:51 +0100, Tom Gardner
<spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/09/19 16:27, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

The consistently excellent Radio 4 programme "More or Less"
examines all sorts of claims where the proper application
of statistics will illuminate the extent to which the claim
is and is not valid.

Hence, "A listener to Radio 4’s More or Less (Friday 4:30pm)
recently (2012) wrote to the programme asking whether the murder
rate in Midsomer Murders was out of the ordinary."

The answer(s) were entertaining, and included comparisons
with the real world.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-08-03/from-midsomer-to-cabot-cove-tvs-murder-capitals/

No, I'm not going to spoil the numbers by summarising
them poorly

Father Brown and Hercule Poirot are death machines. Anywhere they go,
people are murdered.

 

I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of gun violence.
They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect, put it is part of the circle.

mark

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 1:28 PM, Tom Gardner wrote:

On 10/09/19 17:12, bitrex wrote:
On 9/10/19 11:32 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:21:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death
boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Shakespeare wasn't exactly all Kumbaya and people loving each other,
either and his works are now considered one of the heights of the
literature canon of Western civilization.

I like the comedies. 12th Night, Much Ado About Nothing, like that.

A TV set can be good once in a while, as long as you don't watch "TV".


There are some actors who are or were big into guns and martial arts
in their personal lives, too. Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris, etc.

Problem is the actors whose real life beliefs about firearms and
violence are congruent with their on-screen behavior tend to be
terrible actors.

It's finally easier to train a liberal-pacifist actor to look like a
bad-ass firing guns on screen doing something they'd never normally be
into than it is to train a Steven Seagal or Chuck Norris how to act.
That's actors job, though. They play roles and characters that they
aren't.

Bad actors like Steven Seagal and Ronald Reagan tend to end up
confused about where their role starts and "they" begin.

Canonical examples of that from an earlier era:
John Wayne and Charlton Heston.

An exception to the rule was Clint Eastwood who tended to be pretty good
at the (rather limited) range of roles he took.

In Gran Torino back in 2008 he was almost playing a caricature of
himself as a habitually ticked-off grumpy geriatric right-winger.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 2:28 PM, ohevshalomofbc@gmail.com wrote:

I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of gun violence.
They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect, put it is part of the circle.

mark

There's pretty limited evidence art, literature, games, or music (media)
has much influence on violent or anti-social behavior.

Violent and anti-social people sometimes tend to be attracted to that
kind of material but the anti-social behavior tends to come first, prior
to the attraction.

When taken in aggregate the media preferences of e.g. mass shooters show
no clear patterns. Some were into violent media and music and games, and
many weren't. it's common for mass shooters to have little interest in
video games or film.

One of the Virginia Tech shooter's favorite songs was a rock song called
"Shine" with very positive and uplifting lyrics by the standards of the
genre, he'd listen to it for many hours each day in the weeks and months
prior to him shooting a bunch of students to death.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 4:13 PM, bitrex wrote:

On 9/10/19 2:28 PM, ohevshalomofbc@gmail.com wrote:
I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of gun
violence.
They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect, put
it is part of the circle.

mark


There's pretty limited evidence art, literature, games, or music (media)
has much influence on violent or anti-social behavior.

Violent and anti-social people sometimes tend to be attracted to that
kind of material but the anti-social behavior tends to come first, prior
to the attraction.

When taken in aggregate the media preferences of e.g. mass shooters show
no clear patterns. Some were into violent media and music and games, and
many weren't. it's common for mass shooters to have little interest in
video games or film.

One of the Virginia Tech shooter's favorite songs was a rock song called
"Shine" with very positive and uplifting lyrics by the standards of the
genre, he'd listen to it for many hours each day in the weeks and months
prior to him shooting a bunch of students to death.

Nobody ever seems to complain about a song with the chorus "Heaven let
your light shine down" spurring young people to commit mass murder.

 

On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:27:30 UTC+1, jla...@highlandsniptechnology..com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

some of them are quite absurd when it comes to motive. It's kinda like white bread or Edible Sandwich Material, just some junk people watch when they have no clue what they might do with their lives. People killing each other manages to hang on to their bored attention somewhat, and the absurdly childish motives seem to pander to empty people.


NT

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:8lefnel7ffqorc605hkf9sqhe0ql4jbe70@4ax.com:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence
in our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and
that reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these
"death boxes" in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find,
and smash it into hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it
first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is
all about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.

Wow. You really are one lost motherfucker, boy.

 

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote in
news:5kjfnedr66ojicifnqqilrvilb6h39if2g@4ax.com:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 12:04:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net
wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:35 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do
and nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass
sell-outs for a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that
stuff but don't otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too,
remember e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc.
They were immensely popular and it wasn't liberals buying all
the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those
matters isn't something that's been written about by left-wing
authors and pundits many, many, many times...

I don't recall saying that.

I do recall some big-name leftist stars who have fired guns
thousands of times in "action" movies, and collected awards.





If you took a large poll of all the things Mainstream America said
they would prefer to see in films Hollywood produces, and then
they went and tried to make films like that and sell them, they
would go out of business. Mainstream America would hate them for
making the films they said they would want, on paper.

It's very much the equivalent of design by committee. Even the
committee will think the end result sucks after it's done.

People make money selling cigarettes and toxic junk food and
heroin too. Hollywood talks about art, but it's really about
money.

You really see the world as it really is, Johnny. NOT!!!

 

bitrex <user@example.net> wrote in
news:IwTdF.374800$oq9.9382@fx47.iad:

On 9/10/19 4:13 PM, bitrex wrote:
On 9/10/19 2:28 PM, ohevshalomofbc@gmail.com wrote:
I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of
gun violence.
They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and
effect, put it is part of the circle.

mark


There's pretty limited evidence art, literature, games, or music
(media) has much influence on violent or anti-social behavior.

Violent and anti-social people sometimes tend to be attracted to
that kind of material but the anti-social behavior tends to come
first, prior to the attraction.

When taken in aggregate the media preferences of e.g. mass
shooters show no clear patterns. Some were into violent media and
music and games, and many weren't. it's common for mass shooters
to have little interest in video games or film.

One of the Virginia Tech shooter's favorite songs was a rock song
called "Shine" with very positive and uplifting lyrics by the
standards of the genre, he'd listen to it for many hours each day
in the weeks and months prior to him shooting a bunch of students
to death.

Nobody ever seems to complain about a song with the chorus "Heaven
let your light shine down" spurring young people to commit mass
murder.

What about the Mad Mad World of Arthur Brown? ;-)

 

ohevshalomofbc@gmail.com wrote in
news:a7c2da47-7051-46df-a4cc-2173c639a1ca@googlegroups.com:

I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of
gun violence. They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect,
put it is part of the circle.

mark

Did Tiger Woods tell you that?

 

[John Doe]

bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence
in our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and
that reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these
"death boxes" in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find,
and smash it into hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it
first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

What television? I have a 26" monitor and a 300mbps Internet
connection. Oh yeah, speaking of... I need to go watch the U.S. Open
final.

I had a Samsung monitor/TV combination last time, but it's
unnecessary anymore. Now I have some movie subscriptions. Been
watching some ancient Star Trek. Fun seeing whole episodes I had not
bothered to completely watch as a kid. Twilight Zone is also
available. Jillions of movies, gobs of movies, more movies than I
will ever have time to watch, that's for sure.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:36:02 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:35:51 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/09/19 16:27, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

The consistently excellent Radio 4 programme "More or Less"
examines all sorts of claims where the proper application
of statistics will illuminate the extent to which the claim
is and is not valid.

Hence, "A listener to Radio 4’s More or Less (Friday 4:30pm)
recently (2012) wrote to the programme asking whether the murder
rate in Midsomer Murders was out of the ordinary."

The answer(s) were entertaining, and included comparisons
with the real world.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-08-03/from-midsomer-to-cabot-cove-tvs-murder-capitals/

No, I'm not going to spoil the numbers by summarising
them poorly

Father Brown and Hercule Poirot are death machines. Anywhere they go,
people are murdered.

Stay out of Cabot Cove!

 

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote in news:qla1bm$cb3$1
@dont-email.me:

bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence
in our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and
that reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these
"death boxes" in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find,
and smash it into hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it
first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

What television? I have a 26" monitor and a 300mbps Internet
connection. Oh yeah, speaking of... I need to go watch the U.S.
Open
final.

I had a Samsung monitor/TV combination last time, but it's
unnecessary anymore. Now I have some movie subscriptions. Been
watching some ancient Star Trek. Fun seeing whole episodes I had
not
bothered to completely watch as a kid. Twilight Zone is also
available. Jillions of movies, gobs of movies, more movies than I
will ever have time to watch, that's for sure.

"television" and "TV" are terms that refer to the veiwing act not the
hardware on which you view it. You actually prove that. You "watch
TV" every time you view other than computer related media on your PC
(hard to word that exactly right, but you know what I mean). The
simple fact that you now have the network bandwidth and computer
power (and software) to perform that act utilizing your computer does
not negate the fact that it is the same act as when you had a TV and
tuned into a channel to watch an 'aired' program.

 

[Michael Terrell]

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:28:35 PM UTC-4, ohevsha...@gmail.com wrote:

I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of gun violence.
They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect, put it is part of the circle.

mark

Hollywood doesn't give a damn about teaching gun safety. That's why they want to destroy the NRA. The NRA was created to ensure the Second Amendment rights of the slaves who were freed after the American Civil War. Without guns, they were at the mercy of the Democrats KKK.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/11/19 3:26 AM, bitrex wrote:

The motives for murder in media are usually far too sophisticated and
cerebral compared to the standard motives in the real world: drugs, some
pitiful amount of money, some young woman who's not worth responding to
phone calls from, much less killing anyone over.

The overwhelming majority of violent criminals are dumb as rocks and
habitually do stuff like try to mail someone a pipe bomb in an old box
that has their own home address on a shipping label still attached to
the box under the new one.

The somewhat brighter yet still criminally-minded thankfully also tend
to be really gullible because they see that they are undeniably smarter
than the average criminal and so come to the conclusion they are a
genius; the type of genius who "knows the law", who knows for a fact
that if you ask an undercover police officer "are you a cop" they _must_
tell you truthfully.

Oops...

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 11/09/19 06:56, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:36:02 PM UTC-4, John Larkin wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 18:35:51 +0100, Tom Gardner
spamjunk@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

On 10/09/19 16:27, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

The consistently excellent Radio 4 programme "More or Less"
examines all sorts of claims where the proper application
of statistics will illuminate the extent to which the claim
is and is not valid.

Hence, "A listener to Radio 4’s More or Less (Friday 4:30pm)
recently (2012) wrote to the programme asking whether the murder
rate in Midsomer Murders was out of the ordinary."

The answer(s) were entertaining, and included comparisons
with the real world.

https://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-08-03/from-midsomer-to-cabot-cove-tvs-murder-capitals/

No, I'm not going to spoil the numbers by summarising
them poorly

Father Brown and Hercule Poirot are death machines. Anywhere they go,
people are murdered.


Stay out of Cabot Cove!

Just so...

Honduras: 910 per million, is the most dangerous place on earth
Cabot Cove: 1,490 per million, 50% higher

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 11/09/19 07:08, Michael Terrell wrote:

On Tuesday, September 10, 2019 at 2:28:35 PM UTC-4, ohevsha...@gmail.com
wrote:
I do think Hollywood needs to re-examine their glorification of gun
violence. They are like free advertising for the NRA.

Art reflects society and vice versa.

Like a feedback loop, you can't really call it a cause and effect, put it
is part of the circle.

mark

Hollywood doesn't give a damn about teaching gun safety. That's why they want
to destroy the NRA. The NRA was created to ensure the Second Amendment rights
of the slaves who were freed after the American Civil War. Without guns, they
were at the mercy of the Democrats KKK.

Hollywood /wants/ to destroy the NRA?

Did hurricane Dorian cut off supplies of your meds?


I agree Hollywood doesn't want to teach gun safety;
they are there to make a profit.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/11/19 3:26 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 9/10/19 10:44 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:
On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:27:30 UTC+1,
jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com  wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death
boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

some of them are quite absurd when it comes to motive. It's kinda like
white bread or Edible Sandwich Material, just some junk people watch
when they have no clue what they might do with their lives. People
killing each other manages to hang on to their bored attention
somewhat, and the absurdly childish motives seem to pander to empty
people.


NT


The motives for murder in media are usually far too sophisticated and
cerebral compared to the standard motives in the real world: drugs, some
pitiful amount of money, some young woman who's not worth responding to
phone calls from, much less killing anyone over.

The overwhelming majority of violent criminals are dumb as rocks and
habitually do stuff like try to mail someone a pipe bomb in an old box
that has their own home address on a shipping label still attached to
the box under the new one.

"mysteries" like that for the police to solve are pretty common but
don't make for very entertaining television except for the dark-humor kind.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 10:44 PM, tabbypurr@gmail.com wrote:

On Tuesday, 10 September 2019 16:27:30 UTC+1, jla...@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:
On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

some of them are quite absurd when it comes to motive. It's kinda like white bread or Edible Sandwich Material, just some junk people watch when they have no clue what they might do with their lives. People killing each other manages to hang on to their bored attention somewhat, and the absurdly childish motives seem to pander to empty people.


NT

The motives for murder in media are usually far too sophisticated and
cerebral compared to the standard motives in the real world: drugs, some
pitiful amount of money, some young woman who's not worth responding to
phone calls from, much less killing anyone over.

The overwhelming majority of violent criminals are dumb as rocks and
habitually do stuff like try to mail someone a pipe bomb in an old box
that has their own home address on a shipping label still attached to
the box under the new one.