Get rid of your television

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

 

[Rob]

bbq-master@home.com <bbq-master@home.com> wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world.

In de USA, that should be.
Death and violence is not so popular on TV in other places in the world.

 

Rob <nomail@example.com> wrote in
news:slrnqnelis.7eo.nomail@xs9.xs4all.nl:

bbq-master@home.com <bbq-master@home.com> wrote:
Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the
violence in our world. Every day thousands of people are killed
on tv, and that reflects the deaths in the world.

In de USA, that should be.
Death and violence is not so popular on TV in other places in the
world.

What? The same programming can be viewed anywhere in the world.

Our "big three" still exists and they are not all about death and
violence.

Cable channels are not either.

 

bbq-master@home.com wrote in
news:idjene96jaka3h956s0jq5k93idr7nbtbb@4ax.com:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence
in our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and
that reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these
"death boxes" in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find,
and smash it into hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it
first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

How then would anyone be able to visit your bbq site, you fucking
retard?

Where did you learn to hit things with hammers that hammers
were not meant to be used to hit?

YOU are violent.

Violent jarks are not violent because they watched violence on a
TV. They are violent because they were raised wrong, and decided
that acts the rest of the world calls criminal are OK to commit.
It has nothing to do with a television. It has to do with whether or
not you have a bent brain.

 

[amdx]

On 9/10/2019 2:16 AM, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

I have a coffee klatch breakfast twice a week. The 5 of of us have
been watching TV for over 50 years each.
I see no violence or death at any of our breakfasts!
Is this one of those, but only if you watch for 100 years things?

Mikek

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.

They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

"Drama" makes for better TV than people being nice to each other. Making
a TV show or movie that just consisted of people being nice to each
other wouldn't sell too many tickets.

The technological medium of moving 2D pictures and audio is rather
limited, limited in the range of concepts its able to express well.

It's good at "expressing" explosions and shouting. It's not good at more
complex emotions or nuance. That's why when the news story or
documentary about someone's missing family member or other tragedy comes
on they play the weepy Adagio-for-strings type music in the background
to remind the viewer that it's time to feel sad, as the moving picture
is not good at indicating this intrinsically, that's part of the reason
film music and "laugh tracks" exist. People actually have trouble
psychologically "getting" the joke when it's on a 2D TV as compared to
real life where they'd get it just fine.

It's why there are so many jump-cuts, to artificially inject interest
and action into a non-interesting medium. The medium is itself no more
intrinsically interesting than a security camera feed.

The psychology of television and the motion picture industry is a very
dense topic which many books have been written about since the early
1950s probably, and some authors have been arguing for the elimination
of TV for about as long. In the 21st century they may get their wish but
not quite in the way they expected as more and more media-consumption
moves to PCs and phones and mobile devices.

 

[John S]

On 9/10/2019 10:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!

Why did you buy one in the first place? And if you just unplug it first
you have solved your problem anyway.

> Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Of course! Just pull the plug.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.

Lets rid the world of people who have no rational thinking!!!

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.

Shakespeare wasn't exactly all Kumbaya and people loving each other,
either and his works are now considered one of the heights of the
literature canon of Western civilization.

"Drama" puts butts in seats same as it did in England in 1589

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:20 AM, John S wrote:

On 9/10/2019 10:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!

Why did you buy one in the first place? And if you just unplug it first
you have solved your problem anyway.

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Of course! Just pull the plug.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Lets rid the world of people who have no rational thinking!!!

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do and
nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass sell-outs for
a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that stuff but don't
otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too, remember
e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc. They were immensely
popular and it wasn't liberals buying all the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those matters isn't
something that's been written about by left-wing authors and pundits
many, many, many times...

 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:18:14 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

There are so many British murder mysteries, I'm surprised there are
any people left over there.

 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:21:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Shakespeare wasn't exactly all Kumbaya and people loving each other,
either and his works are now considered one of the heights of the
literature canon of Western civilization.

I like the comedies. 12th Night, Much Ado About Nothing, like that.

A TV set can be good once in a while, as long as you don't watch "TV".

 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:25:43 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:20 AM, John S wrote:
On 9/10/2019 10:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!

Why did you buy one in the first place? And if you just unplug it first
you have solved your problem anyway.

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Of course! Just pull the plug.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Lets rid the world of people who have no rational thinking!!!

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do and
nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass sell-outs for
a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that stuff but don't
otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too, remember
e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc. They were immensely
popular and it wasn't liberals buying all the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those matters isn't
something that's been written about by left-wing authors and pundits
many, many, many times...

I don't recall saying that.

I do recall some big-name leftist stars who have fired guns thousands
of times in "action" movies, and collected awards.

 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.

 

[amdx]

On 9/10/2019 10:18 AM, bitrex wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

"Drama" makes for better TV than people being nice to each other. Making
a TV show or movie that just consisted of people being nice to each
other wouldn't sell too many tickets.

The Waltons did pretty well.

The technological medium of moving 2D pictures and audio is rather
limited, limited in the range of concepts its able to express well.

It's good at "expressing" explosions and shouting. It's not good at more
complex emotions or nuance.

You haven't watched many Soap Operas.
But that's mostly people not being nice to each other.
Not much violence or murder though.


That's why when the news story or

documentary about someone's missing family member or other tragedy comes
on they play the weepy Adagio-for-strings type music in the background
to remind the viewer that it's time to feel sad, as the moving picture
is not good at indicating this intrinsically,

That's a good point.

that's part of the reason

film music and "laugh tracks" exist. People actually have trouble
psychologically "getting" the joke when it's on a 2D TV as compared to
real life where they'd get it just fine.

I hate laugh tracks, especially when listening to old radio programs.

It's why there are so many jump-cuts, to artificially inject interest
and action into a non-interesting medium.

Man, that's so true of the Soaps, cut, cut, cut.


The medium is itself no more

intrinsically interesting than a security camera feed.

The psychology of television and the motion picture industry is a very
dense topic which many books have been written about since the early
1950s probably, and some authors have been arguing for the elimination
of TV for about as long. In the 21st century they may get their wish but
not quite in the way they expected as more and more media-consumption
moves to PCs and phones and mobile devices.

btw, I don't watch soaps, but my wife records and watches 3 of them. So
I get clips here and there. I know there are Newman's and Foster's!

Mikek

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:35 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do and
nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass sell-outs for
a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that stuff but don't
otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too, remember
e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc. They were immensely
popular and it wasn't liberals buying all the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those matters isn't
something that's been written about by left-wing authors and pundits
many, many, many times...

I don't recall saying that.

I do recall some big-name leftist stars who have fired guns thousands
of times in "action" movies, and collected awards.

If you took a large poll of all the things Mainstream America said they
would prefer to see in films Hollywood produces, and then they went and
tried to make films like that and sell them, they would go out of
business. Mainstream America would hate them for making the films they
said they would want, on paper.

It's very much the equivalent of design by committee. Even the committee
will think the end result sucks after it's done.

 

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 12:04:27 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:35 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do and
nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass sell-outs for
a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that stuff but don't
otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too, remember
e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc. They were immensely
popular and it wasn't liberals buying all the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those matters isn't
something that's been written about by left-wing authors and pundits
many, many, many times...

I don't recall saying that.

I do recall some big-name leftist stars who have fired guns thousands
of times in "action" movies, and collected awards.





If you took a large poll of all the things Mainstream America said they
would prefer to see in films Hollywood produces, and then they went and
tried to make films like that and sell them, they would go out of
business. Mainstream America would hate them for making the films they
said they would want, on paper.

It's very much the equivalent of design by committee. Even the committee
will think the end result sucks after it's done.

People make money selling cigarettes and toxic junk food and heroin
too. Hollywood talks about art, but it's really about money.

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 12:10 PM, amdx wrote:

On 9/10/2019 10:18 AM, bitrex wrote:
On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death
boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


They sell a lot of that material to Americans so it's almost like they
"know their market" lol.

"Drama" makes for better TV than people being nice to each other.
Making a TV show or movie that just consisted of people being nice to
each other wouldn't sell too many tickets.

 The Waltons did pretty well.


The technological medium of moving 2D pictures and audio is rather
limited, limited in the range of concepts its able to express well.

It's good at "expressing" explosions and shouting. It's not good at
more complex emotions or nuance.

You haven't watched many Soap Operas.
But that's mostly people not being nice to each other.
Not much violence or murder though.


 That's why when the news story or
documentary about someone's missing family member or other tragedy
comes on they play the weepy Adagio-for-strings type music in the
background to remind the viewer that it's time to feel sad, as the
moving picture is not good at indicating this intrinsically,

That's a good point.

 that's part of the reason
film music and "laugh tracks" exist. People actually have trouble
psychologically "getting" the joke when it's on a 2D TV as compared to
real life where they'd get it just fine.

I hate laugh tracks, especially when listening to old radio programs.


It's why there are so many jump-cuts, to artificially inject interest
and action into a non-interesting medium.

Man, that's so true of the Soaps, cut, cut, cut.


The medium is itself no more
intrinsically interesting than a security camera feed.

The psychology of television and the motion picture industry is a very
dense topic which many books have been written about since the early
1950s probably, and some authors have been arguing for the elimination
of TV for about as long. In the 21st century they may get their wish
but not quite in the way they expected as more and more
media-consumption moves to PCs and phones and mobile devices.

btw, I don't watch soaps, but my wife records and watches 3 of them. So
I get clips here and there. I know there are Newman's and Foster's!

                               Mikek

Soap operas don't tend to be violent but they sure have tons of
draaaaaamaaaa! I wouldn't call the emotions expressed in them
particularly "nuanced" though. Anger, jealousy, vindictiveness,
back-stabbing, etc. tend to be standard fare. Complex emotions like
longing or wistfulness or states like the Germans call "Sehnsucht" are
more difficult to convey

Healthy care-giving human relationships don't make for good soap opera
or TV material in general usually, though there are exceptions, like the
Waltons and Cosbys. The drama of the show usually consists of some
external force trying to challenge or damage the bonds of the characters
and the characters successfully resisting. characters vs world. So
there's usually an antagonist of some kind. There are basically only 6
or 8 generalized plot-types that exist for any kind of story...

Healthy romantic relationships can be downright boring sometimes and are
not well-suited to the drama-seeker.

There are soap operas for the younger straight male audience as well
it's called the WWF or "pro wrestling."

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:35 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

If Hollywood had no buyers then they would have nothing to do and
nothing to sell. It's almost like they're a bunch of crass sell-outs for
a buck to the gun-loving Americans who love that stuff but don't
otherwise share any of their values on paper.

Hollywood made a ton of violent anti-communist movies too, remember
e.g. "Red Dawn"? The fifteen Rambo movies? etc. etc. They were immensely
popular and it wasn't liberals buying all the tickets.

JL sometimes acts as if Hollywood's incongruity on those matters isn't
something that's been written about by left-wing authors and pundits
many, many, many times...

I don't recall saying that.

I do recall some big-name leftist stars who have fired guns thousands
of times in "action" movies, and collected awards.

Sometimes some big-name actors and many small ones are in certain
documentaries about people "loving" each other, too, and then a lot of
times Americans don't like that, either! They wanna ban it!

Make up your minds, people!

 

[bitrex]

On 9/10/19 11:32 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:21:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Shakespeare wasn't exactly all Kumbaya and people loving each other,
either and his works are now considered one of the heights of the
literature canon of Western civilization.

I like the comedies. 12th Night, Much Ado About Nothing, like that.

A TV set can be good once in a while, as long as you don't watch "TV".

There are some actors who are or were big into guns and martial arts in
their personal lives, too. Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris, etc.

Problem is the actors whose real life beliefs about firearms and
violence are congruent with their on-screen behavior tend to be terrible
actors.

It's finally easier to train a liberal-pacifist actor to look like a
bad-ass firing guns on screen doing something they'd never normally be
into than it is to train a Steven Seagal or Chuck Norris how to act.
That's actors job, though. They play roles and characters that they aren't.

Bad actors like Steven Seagal and Ronald Reagan tend to end up confused
about where their role starts and "they" begin.

 

[Tom Gardner]

On 10/09/19 17:12, bitrex wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:32 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 11:21:31 -0400, bitrex <user@example.net> wrote:

On 9/10/19 11:03 AM, jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:
On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 02:16:05 -0500, bbq-master@home.com wrote:

Get rid of your television. It's the top cause of all the violence in
our world. Every day thousands of people are killed on tv, and that
reflects the deaths in the world. If you have any of these "death boxes"
in your home. Take the biggest hammer you can find, and smash it into
hundreds of pieces. (Be sure to unplug it first).

Lets rid the world of televisions!!!!

Just don't watch the stupid shows.

Hollywood, the liberal-pacifist propaganda center of the world, is all
about sadism, violence, crime, and especially guns.


Shakespeare wasn't exactly all Kumbaya and people loving each other,
either and his works are now considered one of the heights of the
literature canon of Western civilization.

I like the comedies. 12th Night, Much Ado About Nothing, like that.

A TV set can be good once in a while, as long as you don't watch "TV".


There are some actors who are or were big into guns and martial arts in their
personal lives, too. Steven Seagal, Chuck Norris, etc.

Problem is the actors whose real life beliefs about firearms and violence are
congruent with their on-screen behavior tend to be terrible actors.

It's finally easier to train a liberal-pacifist actor to look like a bad-ass
firing guns on screen doing something they'd never normally be into than it is
to train a Steven Seagal or Chuck Norris how to act. That's actors job, though.
They play roles and characters that they aren't.

Bad actors like Steven Seagal and Ronald Reagan tend to end up confused about
where their role starts and "they" begin.

Canonical examples of that from an earlier era:
John Wayne and Charlton Heston.