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On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnt learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnt learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil.. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil.. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:10:34 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnt learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Looks like there is a big nationwide movement to ban gas appliances. No one really cares what the feds do or say about it:
https://news.yahoo.com/ny-gov-hochul-proposes-ban-on-new-gas-hookups-to-fight-climate-change-233047717.html
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:19:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:10:34 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Looks like there is a big nationwide movement to ban gas appliances. No one really cares what the feds do or say about it:
https://news.yahoo.com/ny-gov-hochul-proposes-ban-on-new-gas-hookups-to-fight-climate-change-233047717.html
Let\'s also ban gas cars and trucks and airplanes and coal and ng power plants and simultaneously wreck the electric supply.
I\'m glad I live in a place where neither heat nor a/c is vital to survival.
Our 30-yo gas furnace finally died and we wore sweaters inside for a couple of days. No big deal. Three guys showed up and rebuilt it in-place in a couple of hours.
The US bans on ng won\'t affect the climate by many millikelvins. What we don\'t use, somebody else will.
It seems like there is a lot of coal and gas in Africa ready to be used. They really need it. Half a billion Africans don\'t have electricity.
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:10:34 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Nothing terrifies John Larkin. He has boasted about it. It does seem to be a cognitive deficit. It\'s a bit surprising that it hasn\'t killed him yet.
Rational people do worry about real risks. They do have enough judgement to distinguish between real risks, and the kind of low levels theoretical risks that some neurotic people worry about. John Larkin isn\'t up to that kind of discrimination because he\'s happy to lump them together as things he doesn\'t and can\'t worry about.
--
Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:28:59 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:19:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:10:34 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Looks like there is a big nationwide movement to ban gas appliances. No one really cares what the feds do or say about it:
https://news.yahoo.com/ny-gov-hochul-proposes-ban-on-new-gas-hookups-to-fight-climate-change-233047717.html
Let\'s also ban gas cars and trucks and airplanes and coal and ng power plants and simultaneously wreck the electric supply.
John Larkin thinks that he is being satirical here. He can\'t understand that anthropogenic global warming is real, mainly because he is gullible enough to swallow climate change denial propaganda. He also fails to understand that we can generate electricity in ways that don\'t involve burning fossil carbon.
I\'m glad I live in a place where neither heat nor a/c is vital to survival.
Our 30-yo gas furnace finally died and we wore sweaters inside for a couple of days. No big deal. Three guys showed up and rebuilt it in-place in a couple of hours.
The US bans on ng won\'t affect the climate by many millikelvins. What we don\'t use, somebody else will.
The US does burn a lot of natural gas. About 25% of the extra CO2 in the atmosphere was generated by burning fossil carbon in the US. In the short term, what isn\'t burnt in the US may be burnt elsewhere, but the long term plan is that we all get our energy from other sources.
It seems like there is a lot of coal and gas in Africa ready to be used.. They really need it. Half a billion Africans don\'t have electricity.
But quite a few of them have already bought cheap Chinese solar cells and home sized batteries to keep the lights on over-night. Anybody can do that, if they\'ve got the money, and many do. Lenin had to instal a central socialist government to supply electricity right across the USSR. Solar cells let you electrify your country one house at a time.
There are economies of scale in large scale electricity generation, but a distribution grid isn\'t cheap. Half my electricity bill pays for the cost of of the electrical grid that gets it to me.
--
Bozo Bill Sloman, Sydney
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 7:00:27 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 8:10:34 AM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs
bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Nothing terrifies John Larkin. He has boasted about it. It does seem to be a cognitive deficit. It\'s a bit surprising that it hasn\'t killed him yet.
Rational people do worry about real risks. They do have enough judgement to distinguish between real risks, and the kind of low levels theoretical risks that some neurotic people worry about. John Larkin isn\'t up to that kind of discrimination because he\'s happy to lump them together as things he doesn\'t and can\'t worry about.
Well, that PROVES that you aren\'t rational: you think NOTHING of FIREBOMBING and NUKING your OWN COUNTRY!
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-8, bill....@ieee.org wrote:
On Saturday, January 14, 2023 at 2:28:59 PM UTC+11, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 18:19:19 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs<bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 4:10:34 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 13:00:23 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred....@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, January 13, 2023 at 3:46:11 PM UTC-5, John Larkin wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 08:28:27 -0800 (PST), Fred Bloggs <bloggs.fred...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 1:06:26 PM UTC-5, a a wrote:
On Thursday, 12 January 2023 at 15:02:52 UTC+1, Fred Bloggs wrote:
On Thursday, January 12, 2023 at 7:08:35 AM UTC-5, a a wrote:
Gas-stove ban: U.S. moves closer to action as a consumer agency turns up its scrutiny
They\'re claiming the gas leaks make children stupid.
not exactly, what matters is benzene coming with cracked gas
\"Neuroscience research suggests several ways that air pollution in general could damage the developing brain. In the womb, particulates inhaled by the mother can cross the placental barrier. The kind of particulates liberated during cooking can be covered in toxic substances and heavy metals that can accumulate in fetal tissue. The developing brain hasnât learned to dispose of these metals yet, leaving it particularly vulnerable to damage.
I don\'t cook with heavy metals. They taste funny.
You do but you don\'t know it. Everything is contaminated with heavy metals. Animal feeds themselves contain levels high enough to be unfit for human consumption and contaminate the livestock. All the big ag field grown products are contaminated from either air and rain pollution, or even the soil. Phosphate fertilizer is used in exorbitant amounts to get any kind of yield out of our depleted soils. Wherever there\'s phosphate, there\'s cadmium, the two occur together in nature and aren\'t separated for fertilizer manufacture. EPA waives regulatory requirements to contain the cadmium in fertilizer production.
Everything terrifies you.
Looks like there is a big nationwide movement to ban gas appliances. No one really cares what the feds do or say about it:
https://news.yahoo.com/ny-gov-hochul-proposes-ban-on-new-gas-hookups-to-fight-climate-change-233047717.html
Let\'s also ban gas cars and trucks and airplanes and coal and ng power plants and simultaneously wreck the electric supply.
John Larkin thinks that he is being satirical here. He can\'t understand that anthropogenic global warming is real, mainly because he is gullible enough to swallow climate change denial propaganda. He also fails to understand that we can generate electricity in ways that don\'t involve burning fossil carbon.
I\'m glad I live in a place where neither heat nor a/c is vital to survival.
Our 30-yo gas furnace finally died and we wore sweaters inside for a couple of days. No big deal. Three guys showed up and rebuilt it in-place in a couple of hours.
The US bans on ng won\'t affect the climate by many millikelvins. What we don\'t use, somebody else will.
The US does burn a lot of natural gas. About 25% of the extra CO2 in the atmosphere was generated by burning fossil carbon in the US. In the short term, what isn\'t burnt in the US may be burnt elsewhere, but the long term plan is that we all get our energy from other sources.
It seems like there is a lot of coal and gas in Africa ready to be used. They really need it. Half a billion Africans don\'t have electricity.
But quite a few of them have already bought cheap Chinese solar cells and home sized batteries to keep the lights on over-night. Anybody can do that, if they\'ve got the money, and many do. Lenin had to instal a central socialist government to supply electricity right across the USSR. Solar cells let you electrify your country one house at a time.
There are economies of scale in large scale electricity generation, but a distribution grid isn\'t cheap. Half my electricity bill pays for the cost of of the electrical grid that gets it to me.
As Bozo types this bullshit it is being powered by COAL! Yes, COAL!! You would think that he would feel GUILTY by generating so much additional carbon, but he DOESN\'T!! He just keeps TYPING!!!