Gary Johnson to get Statue?...

[Phil Allison]

Hi,

as you may know, Australia has just made an historic deal with the UK and USA to obtain nuclear submarine tech and to build several of them.
The previous French scammers have been pissed off.

This 2 year old vid shows the owner of Jaycar putting the case for doing just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QoRDYLym4

IMO Gary was a business rogue, but every dog has his day.



...... Phil

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the
most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria
is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

How do you know that it wasn\'t seen then?

Because we would be able to see the effect of that on flaura and fauna.

> The local inhabitants of the time weren\'t very good at record keeping.

But we know that they didn’t die like flys.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the
most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria
is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

How do you know that it wasn\'t seen then?

Because we would be able to see the effect of that on flaura and fauna.

> The local inhabitants of the time weren\'t very good at record keeping.

But we know that they didn’t die like flys.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the
most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria
is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

How do you know that it wasn\'t seen then?

Because we would be able to see the effect of that on flaura and fauna.

> The local inhabitants of the time weren\'t very good at record keeping.

But we know that they didn’t die like flys.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

 

[Rod Speed]

keithr0 <user@account.invalid> wrote

Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the
most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria
is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

How do you know that it wasn\'t seen then?

Because we would be able to see the effect of that on flaura and fauna.

> The local inhabitants of the time weren\'t very good at record keeping.

But we know that they didn’t die like flys.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

keithr0 wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who
is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the
most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And
yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician,
Fourier, back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis
was confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century.
Despite more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo,
Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been
unable to prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to
debate the subject with me, I am always ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to
such beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster
exists, then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t
\"hate\" them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons
who kept them in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria
is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

How do you know that it wasn\'t seen then? The local inhabitants of the
time weren\'t very good at record keeping.

In fairness to Rod, average temperatures are hotter now than at any time
in human history.

There is no evidence of that.

It is highly unlikely that Victorian Aboriginals experienced such
temperature extremes. That will be our descendants\' futures.

Easy to hysterically claim.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Daniel65 wrote
Phil Allison wrote

as you may know, Australia has just made an historic deal with the UK
and USA to obtain nuclear submarine tech and to build several of them.
The previous French scammers have been pissed off.

This 2 year old vid shows the owner of Jaycar putting the case for doing
just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QoRDYLym4

IMO Gary was a business rogue, but every dog has his day.



..... Phil

And did you notice how U.S. President Biden referred to our P.M.?? \"Our
mate from down there\" or some such!! NOT by actual name!!

Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

All Albo can manage is to hang on to his job for now.

We can only hope that the religious nutter is consigned to history at the
next election.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys.

> My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS. Too old.

What matters is his stupid insane spending spree.

HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

And, at what I think was a later press conference, one of the U.S.
lackies said that the Pres was refering to Aus P.M. \'Mal Turnie\' or some
such!! Opps!! Foot-in-mouth again!!

SURE, we are important on the World Scene!!

We are or were, somewhat strategically important.

Bullshit. We are irrelevant to all but a few pacific islands and even
those have told us to bugger off and mind our own business.

Our PM is the most insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the
office. And yes, that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably,
Scummo is worse.

All of those leave the only real alternatives for dead.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Daniel65 wrote
Phil Allison wrote

as you may know, Australia has just made an historic deal with the UK
and USA to obtain nuclear submarine tech and to build several of them.
The previous French scammers have been pissed off.

This 2 year old vid shows the owner of Jaycar putting the case for doing
just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QoRDYLym4

IMO Gary was a business rogue, but every dog has his day.



..... Phil

And did you notice how U.S. President Biden referred to our P.M.?? \"Our
mate from down there\" or some such!! NOT by actual name!!

Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

All Albo can manage is to hang on to his job for now.

We can only hope that the religious nutter is consigned to history at the
next election.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys.

> My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS. Too old.

What matters is his stupid insane spending spree.

HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

And, at what I think was a later press conference, one of the U.S.
lackies said that the Pres was refering to Aus P.M. \'Mal Turnie\' or some
such!! Opps!! Foot-in-mouth again!!

SURE, we are important on the World Scene!!

We are or were, somewhat strategically important.

Bullshit. We are irrelevant to all but a few pacific islands and even
those have told us to bugger off and mind our own business.

Our PM is the most insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the
office. And yes, that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably,
Scummo is worse.

All of those leave the only real alternatives for dead.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Daniel65 wrote
Phil Allison wrote

as you may know, Australia has just made an historic deal with the UK
and USA to obtain nuclear submarine tech and to build several of them.
The previous French scammers have been pissed off.

This 2 year old vid shows the owner of Jaycar putting the case for doing
just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_QoRDYLym4

IMO Gary was a business rogue, but every dog has his day.



..... Phil

And did you notice how U.S. President Biden referred to our P.M.?? \"Our
mate from down there\" or some such!! NOT by actual name!!

Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

All Albo can manage is to hang on to his job for now.

We can only hope that the religious nutter is consigned to history at the
next election.

Just another of your pathetic little fantasys.

> My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS. Too old.

What matters is his stupid insane spending spree.

HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

And, at what I think was a later press conference, one of the U.S.
lackies said that the Pres was refering to Aus P.M. \'Mal Turnie\' or some
such!! Opps!! Foot-in-mouth again!!

SURE, we are important on the World Scene!!

We are or were, somewhat strategically important.

Bullshit. We are irrelevant to all but a few pacific islands and even
those have told us to bugger off and mind our own business.

Our PM is the most insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the
office. And yes, that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably,
Scummo is worse.

All of those leave the only real alternatives for dead.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson wrote
==============================

** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)

5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.


It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

**Bullshit. The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were
the imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html


Page does not exist, like TW\'s logic.

I have no idea why you can\'t bring the page up.

Doesn’t work in Chrome, Waterfox, Pale Moon or Firefox, all the latest
versions.

Here\'s how I located it:

* Go to Wikipedia.
* Then here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Which proves that your claim that global cooling
was only ever a Time article is a bare faced lie.

* Go to the references section and click on the link at #36. Entitled:
Science: Another Ice Age?\"

The internet archive link is down and the original
article link gives the same dud result as your link.

NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Ummm try \"Science\" in 1971.

BTW: science journals publish rubbish all the time, the
entertainment vaule is huge.

I am only speaking about PEER-REVIEWED science.

Plenty of examples of that in the wiki article.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize,
like
the one that Arrhenius won.

** Wasn\'t Greta Thunberg his grand daughter ??

**Dunno. Don\'t care. Thunberg is not a climate scientist. I do not listen
to children, politicians or fools, when it involves climate science. I
listen to climate scientists.

And her parents both rabid communist nut cases ?

**Dunno. Don\'t care. See above.


Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate
scientist
on the planet is wrong.

** Here\'s the truth - there is no such animal as a \"climate
scientist\".

**Yeah, no. That\'s bullshit:

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/geography/undergraduate/careers/climatologist.page

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/climate-science/

https://climateextremes.org.au/how-to-become-a-climate-scientist/

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/climate-scientist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatology

The subject has as much credibility as \" astrology \".

**That would be a lie. Climate science involves a great deal of study.
Astrology requires one to remove one\'s brain.


Just like astrology, it makes vague predictions based on arbitrary
hypotheses - which you can believe in it or not.

**Incorrect. Fourier made the first hypothesis regarding CO2 effects on
the planet\'s climate. Arrhenius proved Fourier to be correct. At NO time
in the past 120+ years, has Arrhenius\' theory been proven incorrect. If
you feel you can prove a Nobel Prize winning chemist (Arrhenius) wrong,
then please do so.


Just like astrology, its proponents make a living from it.

**Sure do. They make HUGE chunks of money from it. A little less than an
average plumber, in fact.

Astrologers use star maps and other astronomy data.
Global warmies use computer models and other people\'s data, cherry
picked.

**Wrong. If you had taken the time to read the IPCC reports, you would
realise just how wrong you are.


FYI:
Computer modelling is NOT science, just glorified astrology.

**That\'s your uneducated opinion.


Make no mistake - TW IS a 100% raving lunatic.
He rants he raves, he hates and he bullshits.

I seriously doubt he as ever had a single sane thought in his life.

**Uh-huh.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson wrote
==============================

** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)

5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.


It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

**Bullshit. The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were
the imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html


Page does not exist, like TW\'s logic.

I have no idea why you can\'t bring the page up.

Doesn’t work in Chrome, Waterfox, Pale Moon or Firefox, all the latest
versions.

Here\'s how I located it:

* Go to Wikipedia.
* Then here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Which proves that your claim that global cooling
was only ever a Time article is a bare faced lie.

* Go to the references section and click on the link at #36. Entitled:
Science: Another Ice Age?\"

The internet archive link is down and the original
article link gives the same dud result as your link.

NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Ummm try \"Science\" in 1971.

BTW: science journals publish rubbish all the time, the
entertainment vaule is huge.

I am only speaking about PEER-REVIEWED science.

Plenty of examples of that in the wiki article.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize,
like
the one that Arrhenius won.

** Wasn\'t Greta Thunberg his grand daughter ??

**Dunno. Don\'t care. Thunberg is not a climate scientist. I do not listen
to children, politicians or fools, when it involves climate science. I
listen to climate scientists.

And her parents both rabid communist nut cases ?

**Dunno. Don\'t care. See above.


Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate
scientist
on the planet is wrong.

** Here\'s the truth - there is no such animal as a \"climate
scientist\".

**Yeah, no. That\'s bullshit:

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/geography/undergraduate/careers/climatologist.page

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/climate-science/

https://climateextremes.org.au/how-to-become-a-climate-scientist/

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/climate-scientist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatology

The subject has as much credibility as \" astrology \".

**That would be a lie. Climate science involves a great deal of study.
Astrology requires one to remove one\'s brain.


Just like astrology, it makes vague predictions based on arbitrary
hypotheses - which you can believe in it or not.

**Incorrect. Fourier made the first hypothesis regarding CO2 effects on
the planet\'s climate. Arrhenius proved Fourier to be correct. At NO time
in the past 120+ years, has Arrhenius\' theory been proven incorrect. If
you feel you can prove a Nobel Prize winning chemist (Arrhenius) wrong,
then please do so.


Just like astrology, its proponents make a living from it.

**Sure do. They make HUGE chunks of money from it. A little less than an
average plumber, in fact.

Astrologers use star maps and other astronomy data.
Global warmies use computer models and other people\'s data, cherry
picked.

**Wrong. If you had taken the time to read the IPCC reports, you would
realise just how wrong you are.


FYI:
Computer modelling is NOT science, just glorified astrology.

**That\'s your uneducated opinion.


Make no mistake - TW IS a 100% raving lunatic.
He rants he raves, he hates and he bullshits.

I seriously doubt he as ever had a single sane thought in his life.

**Uh-huh.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson wrote
==============================

** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)

5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.


It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

**Bullshit. The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were
the imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html


Page does not exist, like TW\'s logic.

I have no idea why you can\'t bring the page up.

Doesn’t work in Chrome, Waterfox, Pale Moon or Firefox, all the latest
versions.

Here\'s how I located it:

* Go to Wikipedia.
* Then here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling

Which proves that your claim that global cooling
was only ever a Time article is a bare faced lie.

* Go to the references section and click on the link at #36. Entitled:
Science: Another Ice Age?\"

The internet archive link is down and the original
article link gives the same dud result as your link.

NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Ummm try \"Science\" in 1971.

BTW: science journals publish rubbish all the time, the
entertainment vaule is huge.

I am only speaking about PEER-REVIEWED science.

Plenty of examples of that in the wiki article.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize,
like
the one that Arrhenius won.

** Wasn\'t Greta Thunberg his grand daughter ??

**Dunno. Don\'t care. Thunberg is not a climate scientist. I do not listen
to children, politicians or fools, when it involves climate science. I
listen to climate scientists.

And her parents both rabid communist nut cases ?

**Dunno. Don\'t care. See above.


Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate
scientist
on the planet is wrong.

** Here\'s the truth - there is no such animal as a \"climate
scientist\".

**Yeah, no. That\'s bullshit:

https://www.southampton.ac.uk/geography/undergraduate/careers/climatologist.page

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/climate-science/

https://climateextremes.org.au/how-to-become-a-climate-scientist/

https://nationalcareers.service.gov.uk/job-profiles/climate-scientist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climatology

The subject has as much credibility as \" astrology \".

**That would be a lie. Climate science involves a great deal of study.
Astrology requires one to remove one\'s brain.


Just like astrology, it makes vague predictions based on arbitrary
hypotheses - which you can believe in it or not.

**Incorrect. Fourier made the first hypothesis regarding CO2 effects on
the planet\'s climate. Arrhenius proved Fourier to be correct. At NO time
in the past 120+ years, has Arrhenius\' theory been proven incorrect. If
you feel you can prove a Nobel Prize winning chemist (Arrhenius) wrong,
then please do so.


Just like astrology, its proponents make a living from it.

**Sure do. They make HUGE chunks of money from it. A little less than an
average plumber, in fact.

Astrologers use star maps and other astronomy data.
Global warmies use computer models and other people\'s data, cherry
picked.

**Wrong. If you had taken the time to read the IPCC reports, you would
realise just how wrong you are.


FYI:
Computer modelling is NOT science, just glorified astrology.

**That\'s your uneducated opinion.


Make no mistake - TW IS a 100% raving lunatic.
He rants he raves, he hates and he bullshits.

I seriously doubt he as ever had a single sane thought in his life.

**Uh-huh.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early 1970s.
It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier, back in
the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was confirmed by
Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years
of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch,
Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW
theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I am always
ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe that
there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky and
performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of humanity, has
there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a monster exists, or
has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly
delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists, then you need to seek
psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept them
in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY thin
ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean time, spend
a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,
the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early 1970s.
It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier, back in
the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was confirmed by
Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years
of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch,
Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW
theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I am always
ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe that
there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky and
performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of humanity, has
there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a monster exists, or
has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly
delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists, then you need to seek
psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept them
in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY thin
ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean time, spend
a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,
the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

 

[Rod Speed]

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag quite well.

My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

Too old. HOWEVER, there was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name

** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is worse.


** For the uninformed:

1. TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early 1970s.
It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier, back in
the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was confirmed by
Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years
of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch,
Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW
theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I am always
ready.

2. The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe that
there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky and
performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of humanity, has
there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a monster exists, or
has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly
delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists, then you need to seek
psycho-therapy.

3. So he has an overwhelming need to hate them - just to keep face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept them
in government.

4. TW is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5. TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY thin
ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean time, spend
a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,
the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 20/09/2021 5:45 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains,
who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag  quite well.

  > My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

  >Too old. HOWEVER, there  was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name


** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is
the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And
yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1.   TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been
reading everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since
the early 1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite
mathematician, Fourier, back in the first half of the 19th
century. That hypothesis was confirmed by Arrhenius, before the
end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years of trying,
deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump,
et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong.
AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I
am always ready.

2.   The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both
believe that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives
in the sky and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire
history of humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to
show that such a monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person
who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel
that such a monster exists, then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3.   So he has an overwhelming need to hate them -  just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable
of doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t
\"hate\" them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those
morons who kept them in government.

4.   TW  is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5.   TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the
mean time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Nope. Correct.

We\'ll see...

**There is no \"we\'ll see\'. We are already seeing it.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

Bullshit.

Fact.

**Then YOU need to cite where \"those same people (who are studying AGW
theory) were claiming we were seeing global cooling\".

The SAME people. YOUR claim. Support it with evidence.

The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were the
imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

Bullshit. That was just reporting what the others were rabbiting on about.

**No. Time Magazine is not a scientific publication of note.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

Time Magazine is not and has never been a scientific journal of note.
It is as credible, on matters of science, approximately as credible as
a Murdoch publication. Which is to say: Not at all.

 NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Wrong, as always.

**Then present your evidence.

As I stated before:

Arrhenius proved that rising CO2 levels led to higher average
temperatures more than 100 years ago.

How odd that with the massive rise in CO2 levels that we have seen,
the change in average temperatures has been barely measurable
and haven\'t returned to what the romans saw in england etc.

**What the fuck are you smoking. I don\'t give a fuck about weather
conditions in some insignificant corner of the planet was experiencing.
You\'re talking about a place half the size of Victoria, for fuck\'s sake.
Climatology is concerned with AVERAGE climate conditions on a
planet-wide scale. To put that into perspective, England represents
1/4000th the surface area of this planet. Four fifths of fuck-all.

1.1 degrees C AVERAGE temperature rise is both measurable and significant.

Here is a record of temperatures for the past 2,000 years. Planet-wide,
NOT a minuscule 1/4000th section of the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg

NOT ONCE, in the intervening 120-odd years, has any credible evidence
been put forward to disprove Arrhenius\' theory.

What I just stated blows it completely out of the fucking water.

**How? You cite a bunch of drunken Italians planting grapes as evidence
of something?

You\'re kidding.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize, like
the one that Arrhenius won.

Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate scientist
on the planet is wrong.

That claim is pure bullshit.

**Nup. Fact:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius#Greenhouse_effect

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

Of course it\'s easy to claim. The evidence is utterly and completely
overwhelming.

More bullshit with the fact that the average temperatures have
done nothing even remotely like what the CO2 levels have done.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg

Take close note of the fact that EVERY time CO2 levels rise,
temperatures rise in concert. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Sometimes, CO2 levels lead the rise and sometimes they lag. Whichever
way it happens, the two events are closely linked.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

In Greenland?

In europe.

**Then stop babbling on about Greenland. I still don\'t know why you are
babbling on about a bunch of drunken Italians growing grapes in an
insignificant corner of the planet, but I guess it means something to you.

First I heard about that. Grapes are grown all over the place.
Including Australia. They\'ve been grown in England for many hundreds
of years.

But at nothing like the level the romans did in england.

**Again: Who gives a fuck what drunken Italians were doing a couple of
thousand years ago in an insignificant corner of the planet?

I am unsurprised that the Romans planted grape vines. They were
partial to the odd glass/jug of wine.

And the climate in england then made that very viable.

**OK.

Then it later wasn’t.

**OK.

Like I said: What happened in an insignificant corner of the planet a
couple of thousand years ago, is irrelevant.

Just throwing it out there, but the possible reason why the Poms stopped
growing grapes, is because the drunken Italians left and the Poms went
back to beer. And, if you\'ve ever tasted Pommy wines, you\'ll understand
why the Poms drink beer.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in
Victoria is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

\"Now\"? Nope. In  a 100 or so years? As we rapidly approach the
\'tipping point\',

There is no evidence of any tipping point.

**That\'s because we have not reached it yet. However, there is evidence
that the tipping point is being approached:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/massive-craters-in-siberia-are-exploding-into-existence-whats-causing-them

As you are no doubt aware, methane is around 20 TIMES more potent as a
GHG than CO2. There are billions of Tonnes of CO2 in permafrost regions.
As the methane is released, then greenhouse effects will increase. This
will lead to more warming and more methane release. Allied with this,
will be the release of CO2 from the oceans, as the oceans warm further.
At some point, the effect will be impossible to reverse. Then we will be
fucked.

it is absolutely possible.

How odd that that never happened even when the
CO2 levels were much higher than they are now.

**You really have done zero research, haven\'t you? NOT ONE TEENY TINY
BIT. Look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

CO2 levels were estimated to be thousands of ppm 50 million years ago.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

Then you explain what flora and fauna survives 60 degree C days.

Don’t need to, we didn’t see 60 degree C days when the CO2 levels
were much higher than they are today. Its just your silly straw man.

**Actually, that is bullshit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

I hasten to add that no human was alive when CO2 levels and temps were
that high.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

That shutting down the use of coal and fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

Burning fossil fuels is causing the temperature of the planet to rise
at a faster rate than at any time in (at least) the past million years.

Pity we didn’t see 60C even when the CO2
levels were much higher than they are now.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

That said, it is correct to say that CO2 levels are higher today than at
any time in (at least) the past million years. Same with temperatures.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

There\'s no need to risk our civilisation by burning fossil fuels, as
there are viable alternatives.

You stupidly refuse the much more viable alternative, nukes.

**IF the morons running this country decided TODAY, to build a nuke, it
would not be generating power for 20 years. In 20 years, we could fill a
tiny corner of SA, WA and NT with solar PV and generate enough power to
satisfy the entire planet\'s needs for electricity. We could be an energy
exporter. Fortunately, we have some forward thinking entrepreneurs in
this country:

https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/northern-territory-to-become-home-to-the-worlds-largest-solar-farm/

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 20/09/2021 5:45 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains,
who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag  quite well.

  > My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

  >Too old. HOWEVER, there  was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name


** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is
the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And
yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1.   TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been
reading everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since
the early 1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite
mathematician, Fourier, back in the first half of the 19th
century. That hypothesis was confirmed by Arrhenius, before the
end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years of trying,
deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump,
et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong.
AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I
am always ready.

2.   The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both
believe that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives
in the sky and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire
history of humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to
show that such a monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person
who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel
that such a monster exists, then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3.   So he has an overwhelming need to hate them -  just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable
of doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t
\"hate\" them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those
morons who kept them in government.

4.   TW  is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5.   TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the
mean time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Nope. Correct.

We\'ll see...

**There is no \"we\'ll see\'. We are already seeing it.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

Bullshit.

Fact.

**Then YOU need to cite where \"those same people (who are studying AGW
theory) were claiming we were seeing global cooling\".

The SAME people. YOUR claim. Support it with evidence.

The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were the
imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

Bullshit. That was just reporting what the others were rabbiting on about.

**No. Time Magazine is not a scientific publication of note.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

Time Magazine is not and has never been a scientific journal of note.
It is as credible, on matters of science, approximately as credible as
a Murdoch publication. Which is to say: Not at all.

 NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Wrong, as always.

**Then present your evidence.

As I stated before:

Arrhenius proved that rising CO2 levels led to higher average
temperatures more than 100 years ago.

How odd that with the massive rise in CO2 levels that we have seen,
the change in average temperatures has been barely measurable
and haven\'t returned to what the romans saw in england etc.

**What the fuck are you smoking. I don\'t give a fuck about weather
conditions in some insignificant corner of the planet was experiencing.
You\'re talking about a place half the size of Victoria, for fuck\'s sake.
Climatology is concerned with AVERAGE climate conditions on a
planet-wide scale. To put that into perspective, England represents
1/4000th the surface area of this planet. Four fifths of fuck-all.

1.1 degrees C AVERAGE temperature rise is both measurable and significant.

Here is a record of temperatures for the past 2,000 years. Planet-wide,
NOT a minuscule 1/4000th section of the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg

NOT ONCE, in the intervening 120-odd years, has any credible evidence
been put forward to disprove Arrhenius\' theory.

What I just stated blows it completely out of the fucking water.

**How? You cite a bunch of drunken Italians planting grapes as evidence
of something?

You\'re kidding.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize, like
the one that Arrhenius won.

Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate scientist
on the planet is wrong.

That claim is pure bullshit.

**Nup. Fact:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius#Greenhouse_effect

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

Of course it\'s easy to claim. The evidence is utterly and completely
overwhelming.

More bullshit with the fact that the average temperatures have
done nothing even remotely like what the CO2 levels have done.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg

Take close note of the fact that EVERY time CO2 levels rise,
temperatures rise in concert. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Sometimes, CO2 levels lead the rise and sometimes they lag. Whichever
way it happens, the two events are closely linked.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

In Greenland?

In europe.

**Then stop babbling on about Greenland. I still don\'t know why you are
babbling on about a bunch of drunken Italians growing grapes in an
insignificant corner of the planet, but I guess it means something to you.

First I heard about that. Grapes are grown all over the place.
Including Australia. They\'ve been grown in England for many hundreds
of years.

But at nothing like the level the romans did in england.

**Again: Who gives a fuck what drunken Italians were doing a couple of
thousand years ago in an insignificant corner of the planet?

I am unsurprised that the Romans planted grape vines. They were
partial to the odd glass/jug of wine.

And the climate in england then made that very viable.

**OK.

Then it later wasn’t.

**OK.

Like I said: What happened in an insignificant corner of the planet a
couple of thousand years ago, is irrelevant.

Just throwing it out there, but the possible reason why the Poms stopped
growing grapes, is because the drunken Italians left and the Poms went
back to beer. And, if you\'ve ever tasted Pommy wines, you\'ll understand
why the Poms drink beer.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in
Victoria is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

\"Now\"? Nope. In  a 100 or so years? As we rapidly approach the
\'tipping point\',

There is no evidence of any tipping point.

**That\'s because we have not reached it yet. However, there is evidence
that the tipping point is being approached:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/massive-craters-in-siberia-are-exploding-into-existence-whats-causing-them

As you are no doubt aware, methane is around 20 TIMES more potent as a
GHG than CO2. There are billions of Tonnes of CO2 in permafrost regions.
As the methane is released, then greenhouse effects will increase. This
will lead to more warming and more methane release. Allied with this,
will be the release of CO2 from the oceans, as the oceans warm further.
At some point, the effect will be impossible to reverse. Then we will be
fucked.

it is absolutely possible.

How odd that that never happened even when the
CO2 levels were much higher than they are now.

**You really have done zero research, haven\'t you? NOT ONE TEENY TINY
BIT. Look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

CO2 levels were estimated to be thousands of ppm 50 million years ago.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

Then you explain what flora and fauna survives 60 degree C days.

Don’t need to, we didn’t see 60 degree C days when the CO2 levels
were much higher than they are today. Its just your silly straw man.

**Actually, that is bullshit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

I hasten to add that no human was alive when CO2 levels and temps were
that high.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

That shutting down the use of coal and fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

Burning fossil fuels is causing the temperature of the planet to rise
at a faster rate than at any time in (at least) the past million years.

Pity we didn’t see 60C even when the CO2
levels were much higher than they are now.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

That said, it is correct to say that CO2 levels are higher today than at
any time in (at least) the past million years. Same with temperatures.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

There\'s no need to risk our civilisation by burning fossil fuels, as
there are viable alternatives.

You stupidly refuse the much more viable alternative, nukes.

**IF the morons running this country decided TODAY, to build a nuke, it
would not be generating power for 20 years. In 20 years, we could fill a
tiny corner of SA, WA and NT with solar PV and generate enough power to
satisfy the entire planet\'s needs for electricity. We could be an energy
exporter. Fortunately, we have some forward thinking entrepreneurs in
this country:

https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/northern-territory-to-become-home-to-the-worlds-largest-solar-farm/

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 20/09/2021 5:45 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains,
who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag  quite well.

  > My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

  >Too old. HOWEVER, there  was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name


** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is
the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And
yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is
worse.


** For the uninformed:

1.   TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two
decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been
reading everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since
the early 1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite
mathematician, Fourier, back in the first half of the 19th
century. That hypothesis was confirmed by Arrhenius, before the
end of the 19th century. Despite more than 100 years of trying,
deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt, Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump,
et al) of AGW theory have been unable to prove Arrhenius wrong.
AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the subject with me, I
am always ready.

2.   The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both
believe that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives
in the sky and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire
history of humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to
show that such a monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person
who subscribes to such beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel
that such a monster exists, then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3.   So he has an overwhelming need to hate them -  just to keep
face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable
of doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t
\"hate\" them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those
morons who kept them in government.

4.   TW  is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5.   TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the
mean time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

There is no \"if\".

Wrong.

Nope. Correct.

We\'ll see...

**There is no \"we\'ll see\'. We are already seeing it.

Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for a very long time.

It wasn’t that long ago those same people were
claiming we were seeing global cooling.

Bullshit.

Fact.

**Then YOU need to cite where \"those same people (who are studying AGW
theory) were claiming we were seeing global cooling\".

The SAME people. YOUR claim. Support it with evidence.

The guys who were babbling on about \'global cooling\' were the
imaginative writers of Time Magazine:

Bullshit. That was just reporting what the others were rabbiting on about.

**No. Time Magazine is not a scientific publication of note.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,944914,00.html

Time Magazine is not and has never been a scientific journal of note.
It is as credible, on matters of science, approximately as credible as
a Murdoch publication. Which is to say: Not at all.

 NONE of the peer-reviewed science journals published such rubbish.

Wrong, as always.

**Then present your evidence.

As I stated before:

Arrhenius proved that rising CO2 levels led to higher average
temperatures more than 100 years ago.

How odd that with the massive rise in CO2 levels that we have seen,
the change in average temperatures has been barely measurable
and haven\'t returned to what the romans saw in england etc.

**What the fuck are you smoking. I don\'t give a fuck about weather
conditions in some insignificant corner of the planet was experiencing.
You\'re talking about a place half the size of Victoria, for fuck\'s sake.
Climatology is concerned with AVERAGE climate conditions on a
planet-wide scale. To put that into perspective, England represents
1/4000th the surface area of this planet. Four fifths of fuck-all.

1.1 degrees C AVERAGE temperature rise is both measurable and significant.

Here is a record of temperatures for the past 2,000 years. Planet-wide,
NOT a minuscule 1/4000th section of the planet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_temperature_record#/media/File:2000+_year_global_temperature_including_Medieval_Warm_Period_and_Little_Ice_Age_-_Ed_Hawkins.svg

NOT ONCE, in the intervening 120-odd years, has any credible evidence
been put forward to disprove Arrhenius\' theory.

What I just stated blows it completely out of the fucking water.

**How? You cite a bunch of drunken Italians planting grapes as evidence
of something?

You\'re kidding.

If you think you can, then you may be eligible for a Nobel Prize, like
the one that Arrhenius won.

Over to you: Present your evidence that every single climate scientist
on the planet is wrong.

That claim is pure bullshit.

**Nup. Fact:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svante_Arrhenius#Greenhouse_effect

AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally and observation
wise.

Easy to claim.

Of course it\'s easy to claim. The evidence is utterly and completely
overwhelming.

More bullshit with the fact that the average temperatures have
done nothing even remotely like what the CO2 levels have done.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide_in_Earth%27s_atmosphere#/media/File:Vostok_Petit_data.svg

Take close note of the fact that EVERY time CO2 levels rise,
temperatures rise in concert. EVERY SINGLE TIME.

Sometimes, CO2 levels lead the rise and sometimes they lag. Whichever
way it happens, the two events are closely linked.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe.

The romans didn’t need that.

In Greenland?

In europe.

**Then stop babbling on about Greenland. I still don\'t know why you are
babbling on about a bunch of drunken Italians growing grapes in an
insignificant corner of the planet, but I guess it means something to you.

First I heard about that. Grapes are grown all over the place.
Including Australia. They\'ve been grown in England for many hundreds
of years.

But at nothing like the level the romans did in england.

**Again: Who gives a fuck what drunken Italians were doing a couple of
thousand years ago in an insignificant corner of the planet?

I am unsurprised that the Romans planted grape vines. They were
partial to the odd glass/jug of wine.

And the climate in england then made that very viable.

**OK.

Then it later wasn’t.

**OK.

Like I said: What happened in an insignificant corner of the planet a
couple of thousand years ago, is irrelevant.

Just throwing it out there, but the possible reason why the Poms stopped
growing grapes, is because the drunken Italians left and the Poms went
back to beer. And, if you\'ve ever tasted Pommy wines, you\'ll understand
why the Poms drink beer.

However, if you think that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in
Victoria is a good thing,

That wasn’t seen then and there is no reason
to believe that it would happen now.

\"Now\"? Nope. In  a 100 or so years? As we rapidly approach the
\'tipping point\',

There is no evidence of any tipping point.

**That\'s because we have not reached it yet. However, there is evidence
that the tipping point is being approached:

https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/massive-craters-in-siberia-are-exploding-into-existence-whats-causing-them

As you are no doubt aware, methane is around 20 TIMES more potent as a
GHG than CO2. There are billions of Tonnes of CO2 in permafrost regions.
As the methane is released, then greenhouse effects will increase. This
will lead to more warming and more methane release. Allied with this,
will be the release of CO2 from the oceans, as the oceans warm further.
At some point, the effect will be impossible to reverse. Then we will be
fucked.

it is absolutely possible.

How odd that that never happened even when the
CO2 levels were much higher than they are now.

**You really have done zero research, haven\'t you? NOT ONE TEENY TINY
BIT. Look at this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoclimatology#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

CO2 levels were estimated to be thousands of ppm 50 million years ago.

then you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

More mindless bullshit and you are thrashing yet another straw man.

Then you explain what flora and fauna survives 60 degree C days.

Don’t need to, we didn’t see 60 degree C days when the CO2 levels
were much higher than they are today. Its just your silly straw man.

**Actually, that is bullshit:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

I hasten to add that no human was alive when CO2 levels and temps were
that high.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels.

That shutting down the use of coal and fossil fuels.

No point in doing anything that stupid.

Burning fossil fuels is causing the temperature of the planet to rise
at a faster rate than at any time in (at least) the past million years.

Pity we didn’t see 60C even when the CO2
levels were much higher than they are now.

**Wrong:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eemian#/media/File:All_palaeotemps.svg

That said, it is correct to say that CO2 levels are higher today than at
any time in (at least) the past million years. Same with temperatures.

There are lots of viable alternatives.

No need for them.

There\'s no need to risk our civilisation by burning fossil fuels, as
there are viable alternatives.

You stupidly refuse the much more viable alternative, nukes.

**IF the morons running this country decided TODAY, to build a nuke, it
would not be generating power for 20 years. In 20 years, we could fill a
tiny corner of SA, WA and NT with solar PV and generate enough power to
satisfy the entire planet\'s needs for electricity. We could be an energy
exporter. Fortunately, we have some forward thinking entrepreneurs in
this country:

https://www.energymatters.com.au/renewable-news/northern-territory-to-become-home-to-the-worlds-largest-solar-farm/

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 17/09/2021 11:57 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag  quite well.

  > My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

  >Too old. HOWEVER, there  was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name


** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is worse.


** For the uninformed:

1.   TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2.   The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3.   So he has an overwhelming need to hate them -  just to keep face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4.   TW  is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5.   TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

**There is no \"if\". Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for
a very long time. AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally
and observation wise.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

**Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe. However, if you think
that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria is a good thing, then
you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

**Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels. There are lots
of viable alternatives.

 

[Trevor Wilson]

On 17/09/2021 11:57 am, Rod Speed wrote:

Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote
Phil Allison wrote
Trevor Wilson <trevor@rageaudio.com.au> wrote

**Who gives fuck? Our PM is an insignificant shit-for-brains, who is
incapable of organising a piss-up in a brewery.

** That that describes the TW ratbag  quite well.

  > My opinion: Biden was a poor choice as POTUS.

** Massive understatement

  >Too old. HOWEVER, there  was a worse choice for POTUS:

https://nowthisnews.com/videos/politics/every-time-that-donald-trump-couldnt-remember-someones-name


** Beware TOXIC web site run by even worse ratbags than TW.

**We are or were, somewhat strategically important. Our PM is the most
insignificant, incompetent boob ever to inhabit the office. And yes,
that idiot, Tony Abbott is on the same list. Arguably, Scummo is worse.


** For the uninformed:

1.   TW is totally *besotted* with AGW theory, has been for two decades.

**\"besotted\", \"for two decades\"? Try FIVE decades. I\'ve been reading
everything I can get my hands on about AGW theory since the early
1970s. It was first postulated by my favourite mathematician, Fourier,
back in the first half of the 19th century. That hypothesis was
confirmed by Arrhenius, before the end of the 19th century. Despite
more than 100 years of trying, deniers (like Abbott, Scummo, Bolt,
Kelly, Jones, Murdoch, Trump, et al) of AGW theory have been unable to
prove Arrhenius wrong. AGW theory is solid. If you wish to debate the
subject with me, I am always ready.

2.   The PM and former PM Abbot are not, like most sane people.

**Both Scummo and Abbott are religious frutcakes. They both believe
that there is an invisible monster (aka: God), who lives in the sky
and performs magic tricks. At NO TIME, in the entire history of
humanity, has there been any verifiable evidence to show that such a
monster exists, or has ever existed. ANY person who subscribes to such
beliefs is clearly delusional. If you feel that such a monster exists,
then you need to seek psycho-therapy.

3.   So he has an overwhelming need to hate them -  just to keep face.

**\"Hate\"? No. Abbott and Scummo are clearly and provably incapable of
doing the job as PM of Australia. Both fucked up badly. I don\'t \"hate\"
them. I am, however, profoundly disappointed in those morons who kept
them in government.

4.   TW  is a poster boy for the Dunning Kruger effect ( Google it)
5.   TW cannot justify any of his extreme ideas, not one.

**What \"extreme ideas\" do you refer to? AGW theory? You\'re on VERY
thin ice there. Feel free to discuss the issue with me. In the mean
time, spend a little effort here:

www.ippc.ch

The problem with all that shit is that even if it is true,

**There is no \"if\". Really smart guys have been studying this stuff for
a very long time. AGW theory is solid and proven, both experimentally
and observation wise.

the world worked fine when the romans were growing
grapes in england and the vikings were in greenland
and clearly will work fine again if we see that again.

**Provided you have property in Greenland, maybe. However, if you think
that the odd heatwave of 60 degrees C in Victoria is a good thing, then
you are nuts. NOTHING survives 60 degrees C days.

No need for any hysteria or shutting down anything.

**Indeed. We just stop using coal and other fossil fuels. There are lots
of viable alternatives.