Garage door openers

[PeterD]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:47:50 +1000, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

Only if Home Depot are misrepresenting returns goods as being new.

It is a violation of federal law to return a 'returned' item to stock
if the item has been opened, tampered with, or could have been
alterened in any way by the party returning it. This provision is
often ignored by many stores. This provision is always ignored by HD,
and a couple of other stores that will remain unnamed! <bg>

But what the previous poster is proposing is of course fraud. If he's
doing it, one day he may get caught and prosecuted.

Or, we can hope that that 'new' one he bought was the same broken one
he returned six weeks ago!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?

Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Where does Home Depot get the custom replacement vacuum formed
plastic shells to heat seal? I'm not talking about shrink wrap. If you
have proof of a business selling returns as new, report them to the
Federal Trade Commission, and give them a copy the evidence. Otherwise,
you are just talking out your ass.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[AZ Nomad]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:52:26 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?

Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Where does Home Depot get the custom replacement vacuum formed
plastic shells to heat seal? I'm not talking about shrink wrap. If you
have proof of a business selling returns as new, report them to the
Federal Trade Commission, and give them a copy the evidence. Otherwise,
you are just talking out your ass.

Home depot doesn't care enough to go to such lengths. They simply return
to the manufacturer or destroy all returns and simply sell the next fresh
shipment of crap.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:52:26 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?

Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Where does Home Depot get the custom replacement vacuum formed
plastic shells to heat seal? I'm not talking about shrink wrap. If you
have proof of a business selling returns as new, report them to the
Federal Trade Commission, and give them a copy the evidence. Otherwise,
you are just talking out your ass.

Home depot doesn't care enough to go to such lengths. They simply return
to the manufacturer or destroy all returns and simply sell the next fresh
shipment of crap.

It seems that no matter who is selling what, according to you, its
crap.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[AZ Nomad]

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:40:18 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:52:26 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?

Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Where does Home Depot get the custom replacement vacuum formed
plastic shells to heat seal? I'm not talking about shrink wrap. If you
have proof of a business selling returns as new, report them to the
Federal Trade Commission, and give them a copy the evidence. Otherwise,
you are just talking out your ass.

Home depot doesn't care enough to go to such lengths. They simply return
to the manufacturer or destroy all returns and simply sell the next fresh
shipment of crap.

It seems that no matter who is selling what, according to you, its
crap.

Not at all. Just items that can't outlast a single battery change.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 10:40:18 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

AZ Nomad wrote:

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:52:26 -0400, Michael A. Terrell <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?

Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Where does Home Depot get the custom replacement vacuum formed
plastic shells to heat seal? I'm not talking about shrink wrap. If you
have proof of a business selling returns as new, report them to the
Federal Trade Commission, and give them a copy the evidence. Otherwise,
you are just talking out your ass.

Home depot doesn't care enough to go to such lengths. They simply return
to the manufacturer or destroy all returns and simply sell the next fresh
shipment of crap.

It seems that no matter who is selling what, according to you, its
crap.

Not at all. Just items that can't outlast a single battery change.

I've never seen anything to that, and I've worked in electronics over
40 years.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.



So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot? Defective merchandise is returned to the
vendor, or scrapped. I've known people who worked at home Depot who's
job was to sort and process the returns, they deal with the OEM.





Sure what ever you say, after all, you know everything there is and no

one else knows anything.

It's just like you to put your foot in mouth no matter how wrong you
are just to satisfy your stubbiness and ignorant personally.

I hope you enjoy portraying your self as a dumb ass..

For your information, I know some one here locally that works at a Home
Depot and yes, they restock items on the shelf that were returned from
customers that claim it to be defective. All they do is perform a
visual cosmetic inspection and if it looks good, it goes back out for
sale for the next victim. They do this in hopes that they will either
return it late or return it to another store or maybe the customer just
didn't want it.



Think before you post!... It may improve your posture.

 

[Jamie]

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?


Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Yes, Best Buy does that also, only they make mistakes and shrink wrap

items that were never sold that way in the first place.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.



So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot? Defective merchandise is returned to the
vendor, or scrapped. I've known people who worked at home Depot who's
job was to sort and process the returns, they deal with the OEM.





Sure what ever you say, after all, you know everything there is and no
one else knows anything.

It's just like you to put your foot in mouth no matter how wrong you
are just to satisfy your stubbiness and ignorant personally.

I hope you enjoy portraying your self as a dumb ass..

For your information, I know some one here locally that works at a Home
Depot and yes, they restock items on the shelf that were returned from
customers that claim it to be defective. All they do is perform a
visual cosmetic inspection and if it looks good, it goes back out for
sale for the next victim. They do this in hopes that they will either
return it late or return it to another store or maybe the customer just
didn't want it.

Think before you post!... It may improve your posture.

Hearsay evidence, or fact? If it is a fact you should report them to
the Federal Trade Commission. BTW, an electret microphone still isn't a
crystal microphone, like you've claimed on other electronics newsgroups.

You claim that everything ever sold by ECG & NTE was shipped
defective. You've claimed that the place where you work as an
'engineer' continues to use chemicals long banned by the EPA, then you
call me a liar?




--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Rich Webb wrote:

On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:25:41 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:


Jamie wrote:

Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.


So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot?


Heh. They did at the local office supply place last time I was there,
except not in the back. The shrink-wrap equipment was in the front of
the store, in plain sight right behind the registers. Caveat emptor.

Yes, Best Buy does that also, only they make mistakes and shrink wrap
items that were never sold that way in the first place.

The local Best Buy has a section of open box returns. Computers, and
some other items are shipped with a 'tamper proof seal' on the carton.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Jamie wrote:


Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.



So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot? Defective merchandise is returned to the
vendor, or scrapped. I've known people who worked at home Depot who's
job was to sort and process the returns, they deal with the OEM.






Sure what ever you say, after all, you know everything there is and no
one else knows anything.

It's just like you to put your foot in mouth no matter how wrong you
are just to satisfy your stubbiness and ignorant personally.

I hope you enjoy portraying your self as a dumb ass..

For your information, I know some one here locally that works at a Home
Depot and yes, they restock items on the shelf that were returned from
customers that claim it to be defective. All they do is perform a
visual cosmetic inspection and if it looks good, it goes back out for
sale for the next victim. They do this in hopes that they will either
return it late or return it to another store or maybe the customer just
didn't want it.

Think before you post!... It may improve your posture.



Hearsay evidence, or fact? If it is a fact you should report them to
the Federal Trade Commission. BTW, an electret microphone still isn't a
crystal microphone, like you've claimed on other electronics newsgroups.

You claim that everything ever sold by ECG & NTE was shipped
defective. You've claimed that the place where you work as an
'engineer' continues to use chemicals long banned by the EPA, then you
call me a liar?




Your ignorant response to the above only goes to show your lack of real

world experience..

Why don't you get out of that closet of yours and actually look
around for change..

It appears you are what we call at work "Shoulder Educated". Most
people here that actually have real hands on experience , dealing with
the likes of you, knows exactly what I'm talking about.

You can continue with your cynical remarks as you wish, but It only
serves to make it obvious that you are oblivious to reality.

You speak like every one out there that provides a service or products
are operated by those sent by God and abide by the
rules of the Holy Grail. Well, I have news for you, You could be wrong
in that aspect!.
Oh no, that can't be.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Jamie wrote:


Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.



So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot? Defective merchandise is returned to the
vendor, or scrapped. I've known people who worked at home Depot who's
job was to sort and process the returns, they deal with the OEM.






Sure what ever you say, after all, you know everything there is and no
one else knows anything.

It's just like you to put your foot in mouth no matter how wrong you
are just to satisfy your stubbiness and ignorant personally.

I hope you enjoy portraying your self as a dumb ass..

For your information, I know some one here locally that works at a Home
Depot and yes, they restock items on the shelf that were returned from
customers that claim it to be defective. All they do is perform a
visual cosmetic inspection and if it looks good, it goes back out for
sale for the next victim. They do this in hopes that they will either
return it late or return it to another store or maybe the customer just
didn't want it.

Think before you post!... It may improve your posture.



Hearsay evidence, or fact? If it is a fact you should report them to
the Federal Trade Commission. BTW, an electret microphone still isn't a
crystal microphone, like you've claimed on other electronics newsgroups.

You claim that everything ever sold by ECG & NTE was shipped
defective. You've claimed that the place where you work as an
'engineer' continues to use chemicals long banned by the EPA, then you
call me a liar?




Your ignorant response to the above only goes to show your lack of real
world experience..

Yawn. More ignorant 'jamie' lies.

Why don't you get out of that closet of yours and actually look
around for change..

What closet? More ignorant 'jamie' lies.

It appears you are what we call at work "Shoulder Educated". Most
people here that actually have real hands on experience , dealing with
the likes of you, knows exactly what I'm talking about.

You are what we called the janitor at work, because all you do is
push things around with a dirty mop.

You can continue with your cynical remarks as you wish, but It only
serves to make it obvious that you are oblivious to reality.

You wouldn't know reality, even though its all around you.

You speak like every one out there that provides a service or products
are operated by those sent by God and abide by the
rules of the Holy Grail. Well, I have news for you, You could be wrong
in that aspect!.

I hope Home Depot's lawyers scan usenet looking for people like
you. A clown like you on another newsgroup was claiming to sell home
made Caig De-Oxit contact cleaner. He got a cease and desist letter
from Caig's lawyers. They didn't care that he was an old man who was
shilling homemade crap to hobbyists, he was slandering their corporate
name just like you are doing to Home Depot. They have deep pockets.
Can you afford a lawsuit?

Oh no, that can't be.

Jamie, you are a pathetic joke. Your misinformation and lies are all
over the Usenet archives. You refuse to tell anyone where you claim to
work as an engineer. That means either that you are lying, or have been
in trouble over your online antics already. For a so called 'engineer',
you are pig ignorant about the way things work in the real world. Our
laws and legal system has a huge impact on designs, yet you claim to use
illegal chemicals, AC outlets above their rated voltage, and all kinds
of other things that would put that place out of business.

You were laughed out of news:sci.electronics.design for your
ignorance.




--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


Jamie wrote:


Michael A. Terrell wrote:



Jamie wrote:



Home Depot and the likes are not innocent from that practice either.



So you think they have vacuum forming equipment and heat sealers in
the back of every Home Depot? Defective merchandise is returned to the
vendor, or scrapped. I've known people who worked at home Depot who's
job was to sort and process the returns, they deal with the OEM.






Sure what ever you say, after all, you know everything there is and no
one else knows anything.

It's just like you to put your foot in mouth no matter how wrong you
are just to satisfy your stubbiness and ignorant personally.

I hope you enjoy portraying your self as a dumb ass..

For your information, I know some one here locally that works at a Home
Depot and yes, they restock items on the shelf that were returned from
customers that claim it to be defective. All they do is perform a
visual cosmetic inspection and if it looks good, it goes back out for
sale for the next victim. They do this in hopes that they will either
return it late or return it to another store or maybe the customer just
didn't want it.

Think before you post!... It may improve your posture.



Hearsay evidence, or fact? If it is a fact you should report them to
the Federal Trade Commission. BTW, an electret microphone still isn't a
crystal microphone, like you've claimed on other electronics newsgroups.

You claim that everything ever sold by ECG & NTE was shipped
defective. You've claimed that the place where you work as an
'engineer' continues to use chemicals long banned by the EPA, then you
call me a liar?





Your ignorant response to the above only goes to show your lack of real
world experience..



Yawn. More ignorant 'jamie' lies.


Why don't you get out of that closet of yours and actually look
around for change..



What closet? More ignorant 'jamie' lies.



It appears you are what we call at work "Shoulder Educated". Most
people here that actually have real hands on experience , dealing with
the likes of you, knows exactly what I'm talking about.



You are what we called the janitor at work, because all you do is
push things around with a dirty mop.



You can continue with your cynical remarks as you wish, but It only
serves to make it obvious that you are oblivious to reality.



You wouldn't know reality, even though its all around you.



You speak like every one out there that provides a service or products
are operated by those sent by God and abide by the
rules of the Holy Grail. Well, I have news for you, You could be wrong
in that aspect!.



I hope Home Depot's lawyers scan usenet looking for people like
you. A clown like you on another newsgroup was claiming to sell home
made Caig De-Oxit contact cleaner. He got a cease and desist letter
from Caig's lawyers. They didn't care that he was an old man who was
shilling homemade crap to hobbyists, he was slandering their corporate
name just like you are doing to Home Depot. They have deep pockets.
Can you afford a lawsuit?



Oh no, that can't be.



Jamie, you are a pathetic joke. Your misinformation and lies are all
over the Usenet archives. You refuse to tell anyone where you claim to
work as an engineer. That means either that you are lying, or have been
in trouble over your online antics already. For a so called 'engineer',
you are pig ignorant about the way things work in the real world. Our
laws and legal system has a huge impact on designs, yet you claim to use
illegal chemicals, AC outlets above their rated voltage, and all kinds
of other things that would put that place out of business.

You were laughed out of news:sci.electronics.design for your
ignorance.




Oh, so that's your final say, it's always lawyers, Lawsuits etc.. Making

arrest, putting people in jail, should I go on?

Talk about some one being pathetic, I find it hard to think I'm
actually wasting my time replying to this dogma propaganda your
generating out that hole of yours.

You are a piece of work.

Any one that really wants to know where I work and what I do can find
that information them self's. Most people that really are in touch with
how things work in the real world would know how to do that.

Secondly, I've already made several post in the past that should pretty
much indicate on what type of work I am currently doing and what I've done.

Have a miserable day.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Oh, so that's your final say, it's always lawyers, Lawsuits etc.. Making
arrest, putting people in jail, should I go on?

You always do, even when you don't know what the hell you are talking
about.

Talk about some one being pathetic, I find it hard to think I'm
actually wasting my time replying to this dogma propaganda your
generating out that hole of yours.

You are a piece of work.

And you are a chunk of stinking effluent.

Any one that really wants to know where I work and what I do can find
that information them self's. Most people that really are in touch with
how things work in the real world would know how to do that.

You're losing it, and slipping back into sloppy writing.

Secondly, I've already made several post in the past that should pretty
much indicate on what type of work I am currently doing and what I've done.

Only vague claims to work for a defense contractor as an engineer, yet
from what you write, you wouldn't make a good janitor.

Have a miserable day.

Why would I want to be like you and have miserable days? You are the
sorriest, most miserable loser on Usenet. For once, I agree with Phil
Allison.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Oh, so that's your final say, it's always lawyers, Lawsuits etc.. Making
arrest, putting people in jail, should I go on?



You always do, even when you don't know what the hell you are talking
about.

Talk about some one being pathetic, I find it hard to think I'm
actually wasting my time replying to this dogma propaganda your
generating out that hole of yours.

You are a piece of work.



And you are a chunk of stinking effluent.



Any one that really wants to know where I work and what I do can find
that information them self's. Most people that really are in touch with
how things work in the real world would know how to do that.



You're losing it, and slipping back into sloppy writing.



Secondly, I've already made several post in the past that should pretty
much indicate on what type of work I am currently doing and what I've done.



Only vague claims to work for a defense contractor as an engineer, yet
from what you write, you wouldn't make a good janitor.



Have a miserable day.



Why would I want to be like you and have miserable days? You are the
sorriest, most miserable loser on Usenet. For once, I agree with Phil
Allison.

You would agree with him, your type normally hang together.

And personally, Phil really does not bother me, I take it more
as amusement than anything else. At least he sticks to his standards.

It's no surprise to me in any case, ship jumpers usually go
on what ever side it suits them at the time. Or in other words
"What ever side the grass is greener"

You should decide on what faiths to stick to. Kind of hard to
earn any respect for some one that can't hold their own ground.

 

On Jul 2, 11:57 am, Jamie
<jamie_ka1lpa_not_valid_after_ka1l...@charter.net> wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Jamie wrote:

Oh, so that's your final say, it's always lawyers, Lawsuits etc.. Making
arrest, putting people in jail, should I go on?

   You always do, even when you don't know what the hell you are talking
about.

 Talk about some one being pathetic, I find it hard to think I'm
actually wasting my time replying to this dogma propaganda your
generating out that hole of yours.

  You are a piece of work.

   And you are a chunk of stinking effluent.

 Any one that really wants to know where I work and what I do can find
that information them self's. Most people that really are in touch with
how things work in the real world would know how to do that.

   You're losing it, and slipping back into sloppy writing.

 Secondly, I've already made several post in the past that should pretty
much indicate on what type of work I am currently doing and what I've done.

  Only vague claims to work for a defense contractor as an engineer, yet
from what you write, you wouldn't make a good janitor.

 Have a miserable day.

   Why would I want to be like you and have miserable days?  You are the
sorriest, most miserable loser on Usenet. For once, I agree with Phil
Allison.

You would agree with him, your type normally hang together.

  And personally, Phil really does not bother me, I take it more
as amusement than anything else. At least he sticks to his standards.

  It's no surprise to me in any case, ship jumpers usually go
on what ever side it suits them at the time. Or in other words
  "What ever side the grass is greener"

   You should decide on what faiths to stick to. Kind of hard to
earn any respect for some one that can't hold their own ground.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I didn't mean to start this. I was only trying to fix an old lady's
garage door system. Anyway thanks for the advice fellas. Lenny.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

captainvideo462002@yahoo.com wrote:

I didn't mean to start this. I was only trying to fix an old lady's
garage door system. Anyway thanks for the advice fellas. Lenny.

Its not your fault Lenny. 'Jamie' has benn pulling this crap for a
long time.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

captainvideo462002@yahoo.com wrote:

I didn't mean to start this. I was only trying to fix an old lady's
garage door system. Anyway thanks for the advice fellas. Lenny.



Its not your fault Lenny. 'Jamie' has benn pulling this crap for a
long time.


You may notice I focus that energy to a very narrow audience.

 

[Michael A. Terrell]

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

captainvideo462002@yahoo.com wrote:

I didn't mean to start this. I was only trying to fix an old lady's
garage door system. Anyway thanks for the advice fellas. Lenny.



Its not your fault Lenny. 'Jamie' has been pulling this crap for a
long time.


You may notice I focus that energy to a very narrow audience.

Focus? That's a laugh. You make a splatter gun look like a CNC
controlled cutting laser.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense!

 

[Jamie]

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jamie wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:


captainvideo462002@yahoo.com wrote:


I didn't mean to start this. I was only trying to fix an old lady's
garage door system. Anyway thanks for the advice fellas. Lenny.



Its not your fault Lenny. 'Jamie' has been pulling this crap for a
long time.



You may notice I focus that energy to a very narrow audience.



Focus? That's a laugh. You make a splatter gun look like a CNC
controlled cutting laser.


So what you're saying is, I can take crap and turn it into something

useful?

You are after my heart! I'm blushing.



Touché