Fwd: OT: Items in a metal box are cooler?...

[John Doe]

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2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
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3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

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On Wednesday, August 5, 2020 at 2:15:03 PM UTC-4, John Doe wrote:
Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

My nym-shifting entourage \"Corvid\" wrote:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature? [known]

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine and
maybe other things.

No, of course not.

Have you ever tried?

If you sit something down on an aluminum flat bar, the aluminum very
likely will dissipate heat from the object.

Metal is much cooler than ambient temperature. I know that for a fact.
It\'s not just to the touch, it\'s actually measured much cooler.

Sometimes people are dismissive of new ideas, especially common things
they should have thought of themselves. Hopefully it\'s a telltale sign
that the idea has never been tried.

This shows you don\'t understand the basic laws of thermodynamics and also you don\'t understand the rather simple reasoning behind them.

If the metal was cooler than ambient, why would the heat from the ambient not flow into the metal and warm it up? If the heat from the ambient can\'t flow into the metal, how will it cool anything else?


I originally posted that in the metalworking group. My entourage (a
little upset that I expose its nym-shifting) posted it here for some
strange reason, maybe because I was thinking of doing so? Perhaps it\'s
an alter ego of mine...

This shows your state of mind which would seem to be... well, I\'ll just leave it at odd.

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[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 1:14:27 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

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On 2020-08-05, John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
I\'m trying to take advantage of the FACT metal is much cooler than
ambient room temperature.

Capital letters (or shouting) will not turn a falsehood into a truth.

The concept I posted, or something similar, is reasonable.

If you count a normal refrigerator as \"similar\": it\'s a metal box
that\'s cooler on the inside, then \"yes\", something similar is
reasonable.

Some close-minded people tend to dismiss new ideas outright...

This wrong idea is not new.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

John Doe is a troll, and John Doe isn\'t his real name

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Really?

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with netcop garbage
when you are not cognizant enough to see what has transpired.

You complain about \"netcop garbage\" whenever we nail you for being stupid. You may resent it, but that doesn\'t make the people who nail you \"netcops\".
We are just happy to take the opportunity to remind the rest of the group that you are one of the less valuable contributors.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New Zealand, in this short subthread)...

John Doe - who is the classic top-posting troll - wants to label everybody who dumps on him as a troll - or a netcop.

For some reason he resents correction even more if it comes from some country he doesn\'t seem to have visited. He hasn\'t identified the country from which he posts, which makes it a rather stupid reaction, but that\'s all he can ever manage.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

If you had a big enough chunk of Plutonium-238 \"it would solve all our energy
worries. \" you little troll. In fact, some materials produce heat or cold.
The idea is not far-fetched.

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On 2020-08-05 15:09, John Larkin wrote:
On Wed, 05 Aug 2020 19:47:11 +0200, Jeroen Belleman
jeroen@nospam.please> wrote:

On 2020-08-05 19:29, Corvid wrote:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine and
maybe other things.



No, of course not.

Jeroen Belleman

Human senses are amazing, and one can pretty well estimate the thermal
conductivity of a surface by touching it. Metal feels cooler than
paper, even when both are settled at ambient.

Fingers are amazing at sensing textures, too.

Of course a metal box doesn\'t make itself cooler than a plastic one.
That would violate COE and the box would get all drippy.





But if you had a big enough chunk of metal it would solve all our energy
worries.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

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Principal Consultant
ElectroOptical Innovations LLC / Hobbs ElectroOptics
Optics, Electro-optics, Photonics, Analog Electronics
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[John Doe]

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

--
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On 2020-08-05, John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
I\'m trying to take advantage of the FACT metal is much cooler than
ambient room temperature.

Capital letters (or shouting) will not turn a falsehood into a truth.


The concept I posted, or something similar, is reasonable.

If you count a normal refrigerator as \"similar\": it\'s a metal box
that\'s cooler on the inside, then \"yes\", something similar is
reasonable.

Some close-minded people tend to dismiss new ideas outright...

This wrong idea is not new.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

John Doe is a troll, and John Doe isn\'t his real name

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Really?

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with netcop garbage
when you are not cognizant enough to see what has transpired.

You complain about \"netcop garbage\" whenever we nail you for being stupid. You may resent it, but that doesn\'t make the people who nail you \"netcops\".
We are just happy to take the opportunity to remind the rest of the group that you are one of the less valuable contributors.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New Zeal
and, in this short subthread)...

John Doe - who is the classic top-posting troll - wants to label everybody who dumps on him as a troll - or a netcop.

For some reason he resents correction even more if it comes from some country he doesn\'t seem to have visited. He hasn\'t identified the country from which he posts, which makes it a rather stupid reaction, but that\'s all he can ever manage.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[John Doe]

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
A nym-shifting troll reposted:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine
and maybe other things.

I have a metal box in my kitchen and the temperature inside is
definitely cooler than ambient. I use it for storing things
other than medicine.

If you put a metal box inside a metal box, it would get even
colder! Use that to store ice cream.

Try replying three times...

The poster is one of your own.

 

[server]

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:48:38 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I posted the content to the metalworking group, not here.

This original post of my content is by a nym-shifting stalker who
doesn\'t like the fact I expose its nym-shifting on USENET, maybe
aided by being drunk at the time, and thinks its mischief will
dissuade me (that\'s a laugh).

There are millions of people that you can do battle with.

A nym-shifting troll posted that content here, not me.

I was going by two temperature readings inside of my 3D printer, but
apparently one of those readings is caused by some electronics heating
up even before something is printed.

I would have figured out what was going on before posting that content
here. My entourage jumped the gun.

How long should they have waited?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[server]

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 03:36:41 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:

Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
A nym-shifting troll reposted:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine
and maybe other things.

I have a metal box in my kitchen and the temperature inside is
definitely cooler than ambient. I use it for storing things
other than medicine.

If you put a metal box inside a metal box, it would get even
colder! Use that to store ice cream.

Try replying three times...

The poster is one of your own.

Should work for beer too.



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[John Doe]

But seriously. You are not supposed to repost other people\'s posts
to groups they did not post to. Here we have someone who beats his
chest about using a real name, sticking up for a nym-shifting troll...

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On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 19:48:38 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
always.look@message.header> wrote:

John Larkin wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I posted the content to the metalworking group, not here.

This original post of my content is by a nym-shifting stalker who
doesn\'t like the fact I expose its nym-shifting on USENET, maybe
aided by being drunk at the time, and thinks its mischief will
dissuade me (that\'s a laugh).

There are millions of people that you can do battle with.

A nym-shifting troll posted that content here, not me.

I was going by two temperature readings inside of my 3D printer, but
apparently one of those readings is caused by some electronics heating
up even before something is printed.

I would have figured out what was going on before posting that content
here. My entourage jumped the gun.

How long should they have waited?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[John Doe]

jlarkin@highlandsniptechnology.com wrote:

John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
John Larkin <jlarkin@highland_atwork_technology.com> wrote:
Clive Arthur <cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:
A nym-shifting troll reposted:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing
medicine and maybe other things.

I have a metal box in my kitchen and the temperature inside is
definitely cooler than ambient. I use it for storing things
other than medicine.

If you put a metal box inside a metal box, it would get even
colder! Use that to store ice cream.

Try replying three times...

The poster is one of your own.

Should work for beer too.

Nothing better than a drunk adversary.

 

[Bill Sloman]

On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 1:29:42 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Bill Sloman <bill....@ieee.org> wrote:
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On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 1:14:27 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

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On 2020-08-05, John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
I\'m trying to take advantage of the FACT metal is much cooler than
ambient room temperature.

Capital letters (or shouting) will not turn a falsehood into a truth..


The concept I posted, or something similar, is reasonable.

If you count a normal refrigerator as \"similar\": it\'s a metal box
that\'s cooler on the inside, then \"yes\", something similar is
reasonable.

Some close-minded people tend to dismiss new ideas outright...

This wrong idea is not new.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

John Doe is a troll, and John Doe isn\'t his real name

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Really?

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with netcop garbage
when you are not cognizant enough to see what has transpired.

You complain about \"netcop garbage\" whenever we nail you for being stupid. You may resent it, but that doesn\'t make the people who nail you \"netcops\".
We are just happy to take the opportunity to remind the rest of the group that you are one of the less valuable contributors.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New Zeal
and, in this short subthread)...

John Doe - who is the classic top-posting troll - wants to label everybody who dumps on him as a troll - or a netcop.

For some reason he resents correction even more if it comes from some country he doesn\'t seem to have visited. He hasn\'t identified the country from which he posts, which makes it a rather stupid reaction, but that\'s all he can ever manage.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did that.

Or so you tell us.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Where? Time and date please.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

We know you don\'t like it when you get nailed for being stupid. Dignifying your personal annoyance as a pretentious complaint about \"more netcop troll garbage\" isn\'t going to get get you off the hook. Using a pretentious word like \"cognizant\" - and using it incorrectly - doesn\'t help.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[server]

On Thu, 6 Aug 2020 04:47:24 -0000 (UTC), John Doe
<always.look@message.header> wrote:

But seriously. You are not supposed to repost other people\'s posts
to groups they did not post to. Here we have someone who beats his
chest about using a real name, sticking up for a nym-shifting troll...

If John Doe isn\'t your name, why would you care if people insult John
Doe?



--

John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc

Science teaches us to doubt.

Claude Bernard

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-08-06, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

It seems ironic that you would make a point of them posting under a
fake name. Admittedly copying off-topic posts to other groups is rude.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Liar. Until recently you (or someone doing a good emulation of you)
were defending your claims, not disclaiming them. I have not seen
a clear retraction posted in this thread, just your blame claims (like
this one i\'m replying top).

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired.

Post the message-id or it didn\'t happen.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New
Zealand, in this short subthread)...

Stalker troll much.

--
Jasen.

 

[John Doe]

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

--
Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

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On 2020-08-06, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

It seems ironic that you would make a point of them posting under a
fake name. Admittedly copying off-topic posts to other groups is rude.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Liar. Until recently you (or someone doing a good emulation of you)
were defending your claims, not disclaiming them. I have not seen
a clear retraction posted in this thread, just your blame claims (like
this one i\'m replying top).

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired.

Post the message-id or it didn\'t happen.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New
Zealand, in this short subthread)...

Stalker troll much.

--
Jasen.

 

[John Doe]

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

--
Bill Sloman <bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

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On Thursday, August 6, 2020 at 1:14:27 PM UTC+10, John Doe wrote:

Jasen Betts <ja...@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

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On 2020-08-05, John Doe <alway...@message.header> wrote:
I\'m trying to take advantage of the FACT metal is much cooler than

ambient room temperature.

Capital letters (or shouting) will not turn a falsehood into a truth
.


The concept I posted, or something similar, is reasonable.

If you count a normal refrigerator as \"similar\": it\'s a metal box
that\'s cooler on the inside, then \"yes\", something similar is
reasonable.

Some close-minded people tend to dismiss new ideas outright...

This wrong idea is not new.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

John Doe is a troll, and John Doe isn\'t his real name

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Really?

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with netcop garbage

when you are not cognizant enough to see what has transpired.

You complain about \"netcop garbage\" whenever we nail you for being stup
id. You may resent it, but that doesn\'t make the people who nail you \"netcops\".
We are just happy to take the opportunity to remind the rest of the gro
up that you are one of the less valuable contributors.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New Ze
al
and, in this short subthread)...

John Doe - who is the classic top-posting troll - wants to label everyb
ody who dumps on him as a troll - or a netcop.

For some reason he resents correction even more if it comes from some c
ountry he doesn\'t seem to have visited. He hasn\'t identified the country from which he posts, which makes it a rather stupid reaction, but that\'s all he can ever manage.

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did th
at.

Or so you tell us.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Where? Time and date please.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

We know you don\'t like it when you get nailed for being stupid. Dignifying your personal annoyance as a pretentious complaint about \"more netcop troll garbage\" isn\'t going to get get you off the hook. Using a pretentious word like \"cognizant\" - and using it incorrectly - doesn\'t help.

--
Bill Sloman, Sydney

 

[Jasen Betts]

On 2020-08-06, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

that is undisputed, but you keep mentioning it.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Your lies will not be met with silence.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

Neither with lies, yet you persist.

--
Jasen.

 

[John Doe]

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

--
Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> wrote:

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On 2020-08-06, John Doe <always.look@message.header> wrote:
1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

that is undisputed, but you keep mentioning it.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

Your lies will not be met with silence.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

Neither with lies, yet you persist.

--
Jasen.

 

[Clive Arthur]

On 06/08/2020 00:52, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 22:50:08 +0100, Clive Arthur
cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 05/08/2020 18:29, Corvid wrote:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine and
maybe other things.


I have a metal box in my kitchen and the temperature inside is
definitely cooler than ambient. I use it for storing things other than
medicine.

If you put a metal box inside a metal box, it would get even colder!
Use that to store ice cream.

No, I have another metal box in the cellar for that, it gets to about
-20C. Not sure what that is in US standard arcane units, but cold
enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey anyway.

--
Cheers
Clive

 

[Martin Brown]

On 06/08/2020 04:15, John Doe wrote:

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

If you were seriously interested in doing something that would work and
does not break the laws of thermodynamics there are now a handful of
metamaterials that are essentially a mirror finish in visible and near
IR and almost black in the thermal band for emitting.

In direct sunlight in a clear blue sky they can be 10C cooler than the
air. 7C is more typical. I wonder how clean you need to keep them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03911-8

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired.

That is really funny coming from a self appointed netcop that does
nothing but repost OT threads and headers into this group.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New
Zealand, in this short subthread)...

You ought to know.

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Martin Brown

 

[Pimpom]

On 8/6/2020 5:22 AM, John Larkin wrote:

On Wed, 5 Aug 2020 22:50:08 +0100, Clive Arthur
cliveta@nowaytoday.co.uk> wrote:

On 05/08/2020 18:29, Corvid wrote:

Metal is cooler than ambient temperature?

Is the temperature inside of a metal box cooler than ambient
temperature?

I need to look. If that is so. Can be used for storing medicine and
maybe other things.


I have a metal box in my kitchen and the temperature inside is
definitely cooler than ambient. I use it for storing things other than
medicine.

If you put a metal box inside a metal box, it would get even colder!
Use that to store ice cream.

If only that worked. Sets of boxes within boxes (IDK what they
are called) are popular in India. You wouldn\'t even have to have
them specially made.

A traditional way of cooling water in hotter climates is to put
it in earthen jugs. Water seeps out invisibly through microscopic
pores on the walls and cools by evaporation.

 

[John Doe]

1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
troll garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired...

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On 06/08/2020 04:15, John Doe wrote:
1. I did not post to this group, a nym-shifting stalker troll did
that.

2. I have already made perfectly clear in follow-up posts that my
post elsewhere was mistaken.

If you were seriously interested in doing something that would work and
does not break the laws of thermodynamics there are now a handful of
metamaterials that are essentially a mirror finish in visible and near
IR and almost black in the thermal band for emitting.

In direct sunlight in a clear blue sky they can be 10C cooler than the
air. 7C is more typical. I wonder how clean you need to keep them.

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-03911-8

3. There is no need to pollute this thread/group with more netcop
garbage when you are not cognizant enough to see what has
transpired.

That is really funny coming from a self appointed netcop that does
nothing but repost OT threads and headers into this group.

But that is the way of trolls (at least two, from Australia and New
Zealand, in this short subthread)...

You ought to know.

--
Regards,
Martin Brown